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		<title>Snood Trunion at 05:33, 26 November 2005</title>
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		<updated>2005-11-26T05:33:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:In hindsight, I'll let it stand. There's enough ambiguity to allow the Iganefta family having been around a long long time before actually rising to any sort of &amp;quot;power&amp;quot; in -400 [[EC]] with their own Settlement. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 23:48, 22 November 2005 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:In hindsight, I'll let it stand. There's enough ambiguity to allow the Iganefta family having been around a long long time before actually rising to any sort of &amp;quot;power&amp;quot; in -400 [[EC]] with their own Settlement. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 23:48, 22 November 2005 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::That's the thing with writing about the period before about -500 [[EC]]: it's ''all'' ambiguous, if you want to think of it that way.  I don't want to exert a power trip, but when I wrote of the [[Absolute Erasure]], it seems to have called attention to the fact that a lot of what we know about the years before [[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraff's]] reign might have been recreated by the King, and a lot of things might have happened that were lost to the Erasure.  And even if the King had done no such thing, there certainly aren't any 2100-year-old scholars in Ghyll.  That I know of.  And I hope you're not just letting my version of Iganeftan history stand just because of [[User:Nikos of Ant|Nikos']] revision of the Iganefta article.  Then I'd think you were paying me special attention.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::Oh yes, and Happiest Thanksgiving to you, Morbus.  --[[User:Snood Trunion|Snood Trunion]] 00:33, 26 November 2005 (EST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Morbus Iff: In hindsight, I'll let it stand.</title>
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		<updated>2005-11-23T04:48:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;In hindsight, I&amp;#039;ll let it stand.&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Iganeftan family didn't exist back in -2000 [[EC]]. Records of the &amp;quot;City of Settlements&amp;quot;, now Iganefta, go back as far as -400 only (back then, it was known as the &amp;quot;Old City&amp;quot;), and even then, the history is shady (according to [[Iganefta]]). It is quite unlikely that there'd be any, even remotely possible, evidence of the Iganefta family from way back in -2000 EC. It'd be about equivalent to saying that this year's Toyota was &amp;quot;rumored&amp;quot; to have been based on designs from -10 B.C., equally preposterous. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 23:32, 22 November 2005 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Iganeftan family didn't exist back in -2000 [[EC]]. Records of the &amp;quot;City of Settlements&amp;quot;, now Iganefta, go back as far as -400 only (back then, it was known as the &amp;quot;Old City&amp;quot;), and even then, the history is shady (according to [[Iganefta]]). It is quite unlikely that there'd be any, even remotely possible, evidence of the Iganefta family from way back in -2000 EC. It'd be about equivalent to saying that this year's Toyota was &amp;quot;rumored&amp;quot; to have been based on designs from -10 B.C., equally preposterous. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 23:32, 22 November 2005 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:In hindsight, I'll let it stand. There's enough ambiguity to allow the Iganefta family having been around a long long time before actually rising to any sort of &amp;quot;power&amp;quot; in -400 [[EC]] with their own Settlement. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 23:48, 22 November 2005 (EST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Morbus Iff: Why your &quot;historically speaking&quot; makes no sense at all.</title>
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		<updated>2005-11-23T04:32:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Why your &amp;quot;historically speaking&amp;quot; makes no sense at all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Iganeftan family didn't exist back in -2000 [[EC]]. Records of the &amp;quot;City of Settlements&amp;quot;, now Iganefta, go back as far as -400 only (back then, it was known as the &amp;quot;Old City&amp;quot;), and even then, the history is shady (according to [[Iganefta]]). It is quite unlikely that there'd be any, even remotely possible, evidence of the Iganefta family from way back in -2000 EC. It'd be about equivalent to saying that this year's Toyota was &amp;quot;rumored&amp;quot; to have been based on designs from -10 B.C., equally preposterous. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 23:32, 22 November 2005 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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