Ghyll talk:Encyclopedant Calendar - Revision history

Undrhil: Duh. I fixed one 'entries' and left the other one as 'entried'. LoL.

2005-04-16T23:54:07Z

Duh. I fixed one 'entries' and left the other one as 'entried'. LoL.

Morbus Iff: Yep, you sHuururee can. And welcome!

2005-04-16T23:50:21Z

Yep, you sHuururee can. And welcome!

Undrhil at 23:15, 16 April 2005

2005-04-16T23:15:28Z

Undrhil: /* Out-Of-Game Discussion */

2005-04-16T23:11:07Z

Out-Of-Game Discussion

Qwentyth Pyre: We are both right and wrong and learn a valuable lesson.

2004-09-15T01:51:01Z

We are both right and wrong and learn a valuable lesson.

Sbp: Good attempt, Qwentyth! Just one minor clarification...

2004-09-14T02:39:26Z

Good attempt, Qwentyth! Just one minor clarification...

Morbus Iff at 12:28, 13 September 2004

2004-09-13T12:28:13Z

Qwentyth Pyre: Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13. - Day and month of first publication

2004-09-12T20:44:50Z

Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13. - Day and month of first publication

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So, somebody please check my math here, but I believe that makes the first edition of the folktown records published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13. If the Encyclopedants would please check my math, we can confirm that the weekly paper (if it comes out on the same day every week) comes out every Varhookan.

For reference, my calculations were as follows. 0/1/1 (the start of the encyclopedia) was Ulfsday in Ikk. The first paper was -13/3/22. So, we need to go back 13 full years, then forward 2 months and 21 days. (Note, that's 2 and 21, *not* 3 and 22. Have to be careful with negative date years and off by one counting errors) So, 13 years x 336 days/year = 4374 days backwards. 2 months x 28 days per month = 56 days forward, plus an extra 21 days = 77 days forward. 77 is an obvious multiple of 7 ( a full week ) so can be ignored. We want a partial week offset to determine day of the week relative to Ulfsday. 7 divided into 4374 yields 624 with a remainder of 6. This is actually -6 since we were dividing into negative days, and 6 days before Ulfsday is the same as one day after, which yields Varhookan.

The month is much easier. Complete years can be ignored so -13/3/22 is 2 month-names ahead of 0/1/1. If we are currently in Ikk, that makes the first paper published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13.

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 Ahh, we are both right, and wrong.  My math is correct (you are incorrect in assuming I thought the day before 0/1/1 was -1/1/1.  My math works as it should).  Your Ulfsday to Ulfsday logic confirms I did the day to day conversion math right, but your way is much easier.  ;-)  Where I am incorrect is in declaring that we are currently in Ikk, and using that as my base to calculate from.  We are, of course, currently in Ablinth.  I will make that correction in the main Bursine Calendar page.  Taking that into account, our dates match up.  The first FR was published on Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti, and is therefore an Ulfsday weekly paper.  Neato! Thanks for the catch. --[[User:Qwentyth Pyre|Qwentyth Pyre]] 21:51, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)
-Just a quick question ... can I add entries to the timeline?  For example, in [[Zygotic Dermatosis]] I referenced -128 [[EC]] (as well as others).  Can I go into the Calendar and add my entried there or 'should' I add them at all? --[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 18:11, 16 Apr 2005 (CST)
+Just a quick question ... can I add entries to the timeline?  For example, in [[Zygotic Dermatosis]] I referenced -128 [[EC]] (as well as others).  Can I go into the Calendar and add my entries there or 'should' I add them at all? --[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 18:11, 16 Apr 2005 (CST)
 Yup, you can. If you don't, or run out of time, however, I go around every Monday and copyedit, update, and blah blah blah everything. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 19:50, 16 Apr 2005 (EDT)

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 For reference, my calculations were as follows. 0/1/1 (the start of the encyclopedia) was Ulfsday in Ikk.  The first paper was -13/3/22.  So, we need to go back 13 full years, then forward 2 months and 21 days.  (Note, that's 2 and 21, *not* 3 and 22.  Have to be careful with negative date years and off by one counting errors)  So, 13 years x 336 days/year = 4374 days backwards. 2 months x 28 days per month = 56 days forward, plus an extra 21 days = 77 days forward.  77 is an obvious multiple of 7 ( a full week ) so can be ignored.  We want a partial week offset to determine day of the week relative to Ulfsday.  7 divided into 4374 yields 624 with a remainder of 6.  This is actually -6 since we were dividing into negative days, and 6 days before Ulfsday is the same as one day after, which yields Varhookan.
-The month is much easier.  Complete years can be ignored so -13/3/22 is 2 month-names ahead of 0/1/1.  If we are currently in Ikk, that makes the first paper published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13.
+The month is much easier.  Complete years can be ignored so -13/3/22 is 2 month-names ahead of 0/1/1.  If we are currently in Ikk, that makes the first paper published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13. --[[User:Qwentyth Pyre|Qwentyth Pyre]]
 Ahh, we are both right, and wrong.  My math is correct (you are incorrect in assuming I thought the day before 0/1/1 was -1/1/1.  My math works as it should).  Your Ulfsday to Ulfsday logic confirms I did the day to day conversion math right, but your way is much easier.  ;-)  Where I am incorrect is in declaring that we are currently in Ikk, and using that as my base to calculate from.  We are, of course, currently in Ablinth.  I will make that correction in the main Bursine Calendar page.  Taking that into account, our dates match up.  The first FR was published on Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti, and is therefore an Ulfsday weekly paper.  Neato! Thanks for the catch. --[[User:Qwentyth Pyre|Qwentyth Pyre]] 21:51, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)
-Just a quick question ... can I add entries to the timeline?  For example, in [[Zygotic Dermatosis]] I referenced -128 [[EC]] (as well as others).  Can I go into the Calendar and add my entried there or 'should' I add them at all?
+Just a quick question ... can I add entries to the timeline?  For example, in [[Zygotic Dermatosis]] I referenced -128 [[EC]] (as well as others).  Can I go into the Calendar and add my entried there or 'should' I add them at all? --[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 18:11, 16 Apr 2005 (CST)
---[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 18:11, 16 Apr 2005 (CST)
+Yup, you can. If you don't, or run out of time, however, I go around every Monday and copyedit, update, and blah blah blah everything. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 19:50, 16 Apr 2005 (EDT)

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 Ahh, we are both right, and wrong.  My math is correct (you are incorrect in assuming I thought the day before 0/1/1 was -1/1/1.  My math works as it should).  Your Ulfsday to Ulfsday logic confirms I did the day to day conversion math right, but your way is much easier.  ;-)  Where I am incorrect is in declaring that we are currently in Ikk, and using that as my base to calculate from.  We are, of course, currently in Ablinth.  I will make that correction in the main Bursine Calendar page.  Taking that into account, our dates match up.  The first FR was published on Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti, and is therefore an Ulfsday weekly paper.  Neato! Thanks for the catch. --[[User:Qwentyth Pyre|Qwentyth Pyre]] 21:51, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)
-Just a quick question ... can I add entried to the timeline?  For example, in [[Zygotic Dermatosis]] I referenced -128 [[EC]] (as well as others).  Can I go into the Calendar and add my entried there or 'should' I add them at all?
+Just a quick question ... can I add entries to the timeline?  For example, in [[Zygotic Dermatosis]] I referenced -128 [[EC]] (as well as others).  Can I go into the Calendar and add my entried there or 'should' I add them at all?
 --[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 18:11, 16 Apr 2005 (CST)

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	Ahh, we are both right, and wrong. My math is correct (you are incorrect in assuming I thought the day before 0/1/1 was -1/1/1. My math works as it should). Your Ulfsday to Ulfsday logic confirms I did the day to day conversion math right, but your way is much easier. ;-) Where I am incorrect is in declaring that we are currently in Ikk, and using that as my base to calculate from. We are, of course, currently in Ablinth. I will make that correction in the main Bursine Calendar page. Taking that into account, our dates match up. The first FR was published on Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti, and is therefore an Ulfsday weekly paper. Neato! Thanks for the catch. --[[User:Qwentyth Pyre\|Qwentyth Pyre]] 21:51, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)		Ahh, we are both right, and wrong. My math is correct (you are incorrect in assuming I thought the day before 0/1/1 was -1/1/1. My math works as it should). Your Ulfsday to Ulfsday logic confirms I did the day to day conversion math right, but your way is much easier. ;-) Where I am incorrect is in declaring that we are currently in Ikk, and using that as my base to calculate from. We are, of course, currently in Ablinth. I will make that correction in the main Bursine Calendar page. Taking that into account, our dates match up. The first FR was published on Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti, and is therefore an Ulfsday weekly paper. Neato! Thanks for the catch. --[[User:Qwentyth Pyre\|Qwentyth Pyre]] 21:51, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)
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		+	Just a quick question ... can I add entried to the timeline? For example, in [[Zygotic Dermatosis]] I referenced -128 [[EC]] (as well as others). Can I go into the Calendar and add my entried there or 'should' I add them at all?
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		+	--[[User:Undrhil\|Trousle Undrhil]] 18:11, 16 Apr 2005 (CST)

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		+	Ahh, we are both right, and wrong. My math is correct (you are incorrect in assuming I thought the day before 0/1/1 was -1/1/1. My math works as it should). Your Ulfsday to Ulfsday logic confirms I did the day to day conversion math right, but your way is much easier. ;-) Where I am incorrect is in declaring that we are currently in Ikk, and using that as my base to calculate from. We are, of course, currently in Ablinth. I will make that correction in the main Bursine Calendar page. Taking that into account, our dates match up. The first FR was published on Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti, and is therefore an Ulfsday weekly paper. Neato! Thanks for the catch. --[[User:Qwentyth Pyre\|Qwentyth Pyre]] 21:51, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)

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	The month is much easier. Complete years can be ignored so -13/3/22 is 2 month-names ahead of 0/1/1. If we are currently in Ikk, that makes the first paper published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13.		The month is much easier. Complete years can be ignored so -13/3/22 is 2 month-names ahead of 0/1/1. If we are currently in Ikk, that makes the first paper published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13.
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		+	--[[User:Qwentyth Pyre\|Qwentyth Pyre]]
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		+	Excellent work, and I'm very impressed, but in fact -13/3/22 EC is Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti. I think the problem is that you're taking the day before 0/1/1 to be -1/1/1, when actually it's -1/12/28 which makes the calculation a ''lot'' simpler.
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		+	The first edition of Folktown Records to be mentioned is 578 in [[Quezlarian Numerals]], and since that was our initial test entry written roughly nine months ago (which we jokingly refer to as Ghyll period of gestation), I decided that the FR edition released on 0/1/1 EC should be the one released nine Ghyll months after 578, i.e. [http://inamidst.com/misc/folkrec/614 FR 614] (36 weeks, and hence editions, later). As we know that 0/1/1 is an Ulfsday, that means that all FR editions must be released on an Ulfsday, so no maths need be involved. Sorry! Again, though, excellent effort.
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		+	--[[User:Sbp\|Sean B. Palmer]] 22:39, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)

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	So, somebody please check my math here, but I believe that makes the first edition of the folktown records published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13. If the Encyclopedants would please check my math, we can confirm that the weekly paper (if it comes out on the same day every week) comes out every Varhookan.		So, somebody please check my math here, but I believe that makes the first edition of the folktown records published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13. If the Encyclopedants would please check my math, we can confirm that the weekly paper (if it comes out on the same day every week) comes out every Varhookan.