Ghyll talk:Current events - Revision history

Brother Arfrus: undefacing 2

2006-01-31T19:52:34Z

undefacing 2

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Morbus Iff: I've no problem with that. --~~~~

2005-01-27T23:31:24Z

I've no problem with that. --~~~~

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2005-01-27T21:14:56Z

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DrAckroyd at 21:14, 27 January 2005

2005-01-27T21:14:31Z

Sbp: Blonking spanglebate.

2005-01-27T21:03:48Z

Blonking spanglebate.

Morbus Iff: Mmhmm, mMMmhmm.

2005-01-27T20:57:37Z

Mmhmm, mMMmhmm.

DrAckroyd: Ghyll Time conversion questions

2005-01-27T20:33:44Z

Ghyll Time conversion questions

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I am starting this here because it seems the most appropriate. I am working on a javascript that will calculate Ghyllian dates from Earth dates and vice versa. There seem to be some snags. The issues I have are:

# We took some extended turns so there is no longer a direct correllation between Ghyll dates and Earth dates.
# The Folktown Records script works just fine for FR# to Ghyll dates but it has no real correlation (other than the arbitrary "turns" to Earth time).
# There is a ratio of Ghyll days to Earth days. If it takes 26 "turns" to 1 Ghyll year then the ratio changes as the turns are lengthened. Someone mentioned a "revisionist" phase between the first and second turn. where does that fit into the Ghyll timeline for the Encyclopedia?

I am trying to develop this thing in a way (a client-based script) that everyone can contribute and modify. Ideally this should operate as a pick-a-date, press convert and out pops the answer. Simple and clean. Here is where I have it stored as of right now (and I am constantly modifying). [http://wildandbad.com/ghylltime.html Ghyll Time Conversion]

If I can get this working the way it should (with a direct correllation between Earth time and Ghyll time) will that modify Ghyll dates on the turn calendar on this page? Or should I modify the script to account for the Ghyll dates as presented? Which would be the preferred methodology? --[[User:DrAckroyd|Dr. H. L. Ackroyd]] 15:33, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)

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+What if... modify the script to only accept Earth Dates ''prior to'' August 30, 2004 (Ghyll 0/1/1) and that would allow for real-world backtracking.  That way you could use your table to look up the "since the encyclopedia" dates and the script for back dates. --[[User:DrAckroyd|Dr. H. L. Ackroyd]] 16:14, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)
-I modify the script to only accept Earth Dates ''prior to'' August 30, 2004 (Ghyll 0/1/1) and that would allow for real-world backtracking.  That way you could use your table to look up the "since the encyclopedia" dates and the script for back dates. --[[User:DrAckroyd|Dr. H. L. Ackroyd]] 16:14, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)

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		+	I modify the script to only accept Earth Dates ''prior to'' August 30, 2004 (Ghyll 0/1/1) and that would allow for real-world backtracking. That way you could use your table to look up the "since the encyclopedia" dates and the script for back dates.

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	Welp, hrm. I'm not sure there /can/ be a direct correlation between Earth time and Ghyll time - simply because of the whole "terms" lengthening and shortening (in fact, some possibility for future rounds would be speed turns - where a turn would happen every day, or some such, but it'd still be 1/26th of a Ghyll year, regardless of how long it lasted in Earth days). Is knowing the Earth date really important when determining a Ghyll date? Sbp had developed a quickie Python turn-to-Ghyllian script (edit [[Current events]] and scroll to the bottom for the source) which I've been using to determine the turn dates. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:57, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)		Welp, hrm. I'm not sure there /can/ be a direct correlation between Earth time and Ghyll time - simply because of the whole "terms" lengthening and shortening (in fact, some possibility for future rounds would be speed turns - where a turn would happen every day, or some such, but it'd still be 1/26th of a Ghyll year, regardless of how long it lasted in Earth days). Is knowing the Earth date really important when determining a Ghyll date? Sbp had developed a quickie Python turn-to-Ghyllian script (edit [[Current events]] and scroll to the bottom for the source) which I've been using to determine the turn dates. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:57, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)
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		+	From [http://swhack.com/logs/2005-01-27#T21-02-51 Swhack]:
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		+	<pre>
		+	<Morbus> just look at Talk:Current events.
		+	<Morbus> man alive ;)
		+	<sbp> I've read it
		+	<sbp> there's no problem though that I can find
		+	<sbp> 1 you can just ignore
		+	<Morbus> well, how would you handle the turn lengtehning?
		+	<sbp> 2 doesn't come into it
		+	<sbp> just by ignoring it
		+	<Morbus> well, that won't give you a "real world" conversion then.
		+	<sbp> doesn't matter how long we take; in Ghyll, each turn takes
		+	1/26 of a Ghyll year
		+	<sbp> yeah it will
		+	<sbp> but it won't be linear based on our dates
		+	<sbp> it'll be based on our turns
		+	<Morbus> well, go ahead, say that.
		+	<sbp> as it always has been
		+	<Morbus> this is starting to sound like math.
		+	<Morbus> ;)
		+	</pre>
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		+	--[[User:Sbp\|Sean B. Palmer]] 16:03, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)

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	If I can get this working the way it should (with a direct correllation between Earth time and Ghyll time) will that modify Ghyll dates on the turn calendar on this page? Or should I modify the script to account for the Ghyll dates as presented? Which would be the preferred methodology? --[[User:DrAckroyd\|Dr. H. L. Ackroyd]] 15:33, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)		If I can get this working the way it should (with a direct correllation between Earth time and Ghyll time) will that modify Ghyll dates on the turn calendar on this page? Or should I modify the script to account for the Ghyll dates as presented? Which would be the preferred methodology? --[[User:DrAckroyd\|Dr. H. L. Ackroyd]] 15:33, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)
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		+	Welp, hrm. I'm not sure there /can/ be a direct correlation between Earth time and Ghyll time - simply because of the whole "terms" lengthening and shortening (in fact, some possibility for future rounds would be speed turns - where a turn would happen every day, or some such, but it'd still be 1/26th of a Ghyll year, regardless of how long it lasted in Earth days). Is knowing the Earth date really important when determining a Ghyll date? Sbp had developed a quickie Python turn-to-Ghyllian script (edit [[Current events]] and scroll to the bottom for the source) which I've been using to determine the turn dates. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:57, 27 Jan 2005 (EST)