Ghyll talk:Bavarian Creame - Revision history

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2005-05-13T20:09:28Z

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Jcowan: Removing obsolete discussion.

2005-04-27T15:33:24Z

Removing obsolete discussion.

Jcowan: /* Notice of Conflict */ Reply to Morbus

2005-03-19T00:06:46Z

Notice of Conflict: Reply to Morbus

Morbus Iff: Possible to explain it away before the round ends.

2005-03-18T23:18:36Z

Possible to explain it away before the round ends.

Jcowan: Notice of Conflict

2005-03-18T22:37:09Z

Notice of Conflict

Arnia: Correcting her age

2004-09-25T00:57:39Z

Correcting her age

Arnia: Correcting her age

2004-09-25T00:56:10Z

Correcting her age

Morbus Iff: Update on what happened to Daniel's age.

2004-09-24T19:01:20Z

Update on what happened to Daniel's age.

Bast ResNovae: I like the fix, but I also read supermarket tabloids

2004-09-18T03:58:14Z

I like the fix, but I also read supermarket tabloids

Morbus Iff: Hmm. Maybe Daniel was /really really/ young, and Niala was a sicko.

2004-09-18T03:39:53Z

Hmm. Maybe Daniel was /really really/ young, and Niala was a sicko.

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−	~~==Out-Of-Game Discussion==~~

−	In figuring out the math for this, there are a couple of things that come to light, so I thought I'd blurb them here, for the sake of everyone else. It appears there is a crucial continuity error here, but hopefully multiple eyeballs will help 'em out. Everything is based on two core facts:
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−	~~# Siam Sinch married Gabson Foye in -11 EC (in [[Bethany Mboya]]).~~
−	~~# Siam Sinch was 20 years old when she married (as per [[Bavarian Creame]]).~~
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−	Based on all of this, we can work backwards and discover the dates of her previous marriages, as well as when she was the mayor of Folktown. Siam must have been born in -31 EC, and thus, Bavarian married Bartholemew Sinch in -31. She had been divorced from Smallwood for two years (-33 EC), whom she had married for 12 years (-45 EC). She divorced him two years after becoming the Folktown Mayor (-35 EC) - she was 24 years old.
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−	Alright, now, Bavarian had an older daughter named Niala. Niala is older then Siam. If Siam was 20 when she married (-11 EC), then she would have been 23 when Bavarian marries Windsor Creame (-8 EC). That would make Niala ''at least 24'', since she's older. Now, Niala was going out with the "much younger" son of Bavarian's "future husband", Windsor. From this, we can probably infer that Daniel Mboya was anywhere from 10 to 14 - otherwise, he'd have no business acting all kid-like when he was at the Folktown Record's offices in [[Agony uncle]] (which, at the time of writing, the only other known kid was Morphous Ibb, who wrote to the FR when he was 11).
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−	Here's the problem. The death in [[Agony uncle]] took place in 0 EC, because of the blurb from ''Bavarian Creame, Windsor's wife of seven years''. That means Daniel would have been 17 to 21 when he was murdered, and he would have been far too old to be asking those child like questions in the FR offices. Thoughts? --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 23:32, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)
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−	Actually, the very simple fix for this would be to make Daniel 5 to 7 in -8 EC, when Bavarian was married to Windsor. This would make Niala literally robbing the cradle (she'd be 24 to Daniel's 5 to 7), and would make Daniel sufficently innocent at the age of his death (roughly 11 to 14). Does this sound amicable? --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 23:39, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)
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−	~~Sound suitably scandalous to me.--[[User:Bast ResNovae\|Bast ResNovae]] 23:58, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)~~
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−	I eventually decided to make Daniel suffer an unfortunate accident, causing him to be retarded at the time of his death, switching his "childlike" questions implied in Agony uncle to merely mentally challenged. It actually works into the plot a bit better. See more in [[Cataract Road]]. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:01, 24 Sep 2004 (EDT)
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−	~~Daniel has been aged and retarded, Bavarian has just gained a hefty decade and all should be well again :) -- [[User:Arnia\|Fingest Arnia]] 01:56, 25th September 2004 (BST)~~
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−	~~== Notice of Conflict ==~~
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−	When I wrote [[Iain Underholm Smallwood]], I made him pass his title to his nephew [[Baron Claude Lloyd Albert Smallwood]], without noticing that the [[Bavarian Creame]] article says he got his title from her. What to do, what to do? ''Quod scripsit, scripsit.'' I guess I could change "nephew" to "nephew-in-law". What do you think, Morbus (and others)? --[[User:Jcowan\|John Cowan]] 17:37, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)
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−	I, personally, suck at family relations and innuendo, so I have no intellectual thought regarding "what's best for the world". Unless the 'I' entry change causes incredible and sweeping revisions, I would fix that, as B established its Truth earlier. Alternatively, I'm also a fan of fixing inconsistencies with entries: if you can explain it away in a letter remaining in this Round, you have that option as well. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 18:18, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)
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−	Done, see [[Iain Underholm Smallwood]]. This may still leave problems with the dateline. My real problem is that I could never stand to the [[Bavarian Creame]] article closely, for some odd reason. That's why the Bavarian Creame section got redacted out of the [[Conflict That Is Not Happening]]; or in brute fact, never written. --[[User:Jcowan\|John Cowan]] 19:06, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)

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	I, personally, suck at family relations and innuendo, so I have no intellectual thought regarding "what's best for the world". Unless the 'I' entry change causes incredible and sweeping revisions, I would fix that, as B established its Truth earlier. Alternatively, I'm also a fan of fixing inconsistencies with entries: if you can explain it away in a letter remaining in this Round, you have that option as well. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 18:18, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)		I, personally, suck at family relations and innuendo, so I have no intellectual thought regarding "what's best for the world". Unless the 'I' entry change causes incredible and sweeping revisions, I would fix that, as B established its Truth earlier. Alternatively, I'm also a fan of fixing inconsistencies with entries: if you can explain it away in a letter remaining in this Round, you have that option as well. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 18:18, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)
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		+	Done, see [[Iain Underholm Smallwood]]. This may still leave problems with the dateline. My real problem is that I could never stand to the [[Bavarian Creame]] article closely, for some odd reason. That's why the Bavarian Creame section got redacted out of the [[Conflict That Is Not Happening]]; or in brute fact, never written. --[[User:Jcowan\|John Cowan]] 19:06, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)

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-When I wrote [[Iain Underholm Smallwood]], I made him pass his title to his nephew [[Baron Claude Lloyd Albert Smallwood]], without noticing that the [[Bavarian Creame]] article says he got his title from her.  What to do, what to do?  ''Quod scripsit, scripsit.''
+When I wrote [[Iain Underholm Smallwood]], I made him pass his title to his nephew [[Baron Claude Lloyd Albert Smallwood]], without noticing that the [[Bavarian Creame]] article says he got his title from her.  What to do, what to do?  ''Quod scripsit, scripsit.'' I guess I could change "nephew" to "nephew-in-law".  What do you think, Morbus (and others)? --[[User:Jcowan|John Cowan]] 17:37, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)
-I guess I could change "nephew" to "nephew-in-law".  What do you think, Morbus (and others)?
+I, personally, suck at family relations and innuendo, so I have no intellectual thought regarding "what's best for the world". Unless the 'I' entry change causes incredible and sweeping revisions, I would fix that, as B established its Truth earlier. Alternatively, I'm also a fan of fixing inconsistencies with entries: if you can explain it away in a letter remaining in this Round, you have that option as well. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 18:18, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)

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	Daniel has been aged and retarded, Bavarian has just gained a hefty decade and all should be well again :) -- [[User:Arnia\|Fingest Arnia]] 01:56, 25th September 2004 (BST)		Daniel has been aged and retarded, Bavarian has just gained a hefty decade and all should be well again :) -- [[User:Arnia\|Fingest Arnia]] 01:56, 25th September 2004 (BST)
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		+	== Notice of Conflict ==
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		+	When I wrote [[Iain Underholm Smallwood]], I made him pass his title to his nephew [[Baron Claude Lloyd Albert Smallwood]], without noticing that the [[Bavarian Creame]] article says he got his title from her. What to do, what to do? ''Quod scripsit, scripsit.''
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		+	I guess I could change "nephew" to "nephew-in-law". What do you think, Morbus (and others)?
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		+	--[[User:Jcowan\|John Cowan]] 17:37, 18 Mar 2005 (EST)

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	I eventually decided to make Daniel suffer an unfortunate accident, causing him to be retarded at the time of his death, switching his "childlike" questions implied in Agony uncle to merely mentally challenged. It actually works into the plot a bit better. See more in [[Cataract Road]]. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:01, 24 Sep 2004 (EDT)		I eventually decided to make Daniel suffer an unfortunate accident, causing him to be retarded at the time of his death, switching his "childlike" questions implied in Agony uncle to merely mentally challenged. It actually works into the plot a bit better. See more in [[Cataract Road]]. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:01, 24 Sep 2004 (EDT)

−	~~== Correcting her age ==~~	+	Daniel has been aged and retarded, Bavarian has just gained a hefty decade and all should be well again :) -- [[User:Arnia\|Fingest Arnia]] 01:56, 25th September 2004 (BST)
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−	Daniel has been aged and retarded, Bavarian has just gained a hefty decade and all should be well again :) -- [[User:Arnia\|Fingest Arnia]]

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	I eventually decided to make Daniel suffer an unfortunate accident, causing him to be retarded at the time of his death, switching his "childlike" questions implied in Agony uncle to merely mentally challenged. It actually works into the plot a bit better. See more in [[Cataract Road]]. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:01, 24 Sep 2004 (EDT)		I eventually decided to make Daniel suffer an unfortunate accident, causing him to be retarded at the time of his death, switching his "childlike" questions implied in Agony uncle to merely mentally challenged. It actually works into the plot a bit better. See more in [[Cataract Road]]. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:01, 24 Sep 2004 (EDT)
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		+	Daniel has been aged and retarded, Bavarian has just gained a hefty decade and all should be well again :) -- [[User:Arnia\|Fingest Arnia]]

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	Sound suitably scandalous to me.--[[User:Bast ResNovae\|Bast ResNovae]] 23:58, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)		Sound suitably scandalous to me.--[[User:Bast ResNovae\|Bast ResNovae]] 23:58, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)
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		+	I eventually decided to make Daniel suffer an unfortunate accident, causing him to be retarded at the time of his death, switching his "childlike" questions implied in Agony uncle to merely mentally challenged. It actually works into the plot a bit better. See more in [[Cataract Road]]. --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 15:01, 24 Sep 2004 (EDT)

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	Actually, the very simple fix for this would be to make Daniel 5 to 7 in -8 EC, when Bavarian was married to Windsor. This would make Niala literally robbing the cradle (she'd be 24 to Daniel's 5 to 7), and would make Daniel sufficently innocent at the age of his death (roughly 11 to 14). Does this sound amicable? --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 23:39, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)		Actually, the very simple fix for this would be to make Daniel 5 to 7 in -8 EC, when Bavarian was married to Windsor. This would make Niala literally robbing the cradle (she'd be 24 to Daniel's 5 to 7), and would make Daniel sufficently innocent at the age of his death (roughly 11 to 14). Does this sound amicable? --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 23:39, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)
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		+	Sound suitably scandalous to me.--[[User:Bast ResNovae\|Bast ResNovae]] 23:58, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)

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	Alright, now, Bavarian had an older daughter named Niala. Niala is older then Siam. If Siam was 20 when she married (-11 EC), then she would have been 23 when Bavarian marries Windsor Creame (-8 EC). That would make Niala ''at least 24'', since she's older. Now, Niala was going out with the "much younger" son of Bavarian's "future husband", Windsor. From this, we can probably infer that Daniel Mboya was anywhere from 10 to 14 - otherwise, he'd have no business acting all kid-like when he was at the Folktown Record's offices in [[Agony uncle]] (which, at the time of writing, the only other known kid was Morphous Ibb, who wrote to the FR when he was 11).		Alright, now, Bavarian had an older daughter named Niala. Niala is older then Siam. If Siam was 20 when she married (-11 EC), then she would have been 23 when Bavarian marries Windsor Creame (-8 EC). That would make Niala ''at least 24'', since she's older. Now, Niala was going out with the "much younger" son of Bavarian's "future husband", Windsor. From this, we can probably infer that Daniel Mboya was anywhere from 10 to 14 - otherwise, he'd have no business acting all kid-like when he was at the Folktown Record's offices in [[Agony uncle]] (which, at the time of writing, the only other known kid was Morphous Ibb, who wrote to the FR when he was 11).

−	Here's the problem. The death in [[Agony uncle]] took place in 0 EC, because of the blurb from ''Bavarian Creame, Windsor's wife of seven years''. That means Daniel would have been 17 to 21 when he was murdered, and he would have been far too old to be asking those child like questions in the FR offices. Thoughts --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 23:32, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)	+	Here's the problem. The death in [[Agony uncle]] took place in 0 EC, because of the blurb from ''Bavarian Creame, Windsor's wife of seven years''. That means Daniel would have been 17 to 21 when he was murdered, and he would have been far too old to be asking those child like questions in the FR offices. Thoughts? --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 23:32, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)
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		+	Actually, the very simple fix for this would be to make Daniel 5 to 7 in -8 EC, when Bavarian was married to Windsor. This would make Niala literally robbing the cradle (she'd be 24 to Daniel's 5 to 7), and would make Daniel sufficently innocent at the age of his death (roughly 11 to 14). Does this sound amicable? --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 23:39, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)