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Snood Trunion: /* Whim of the Beholder and the Heh-blammo Balance */

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Whim of the Beholder and the Heh-blammo Balance

Snood Trunion at 02:55, 2 November 2005

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Morbus Iff at 20:13, 1 November 2005

2005-11-01T20:13:56Z

Morbus Iff at 20:13, 1 November 2005

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Morbus Iff: Sick and at work; we'll see how it goes.

2005-11-01T20:11:10Z

Sick and at work; we'll see how it goes.

Brother Arfrus: final?

2005-10-29T00:40:39Z

final?

Brother Arfrus: draft 2

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draft 2

Brother Arfrus: draft

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draft

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		+	Well, Brother. I don't know how you managed it. Not a fortnight from the submission of your entry, and the finest scholars in Ghyll have fully realised your whim. Know you not what power you hold over your ill-witted peers? --[[User:Snood Trunion\|Snood Trunion]] 06:24, 25 November 2005 (EST)

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 The special (maybe?) quantum criterion is particularly important in considering the whim of the beholder. This designation is the value that is given to [[Rich Earth Cactus|rich earth cacti]], [[Phaelros|phaelrosen]], [[Pziqq trees|Desert Pziqq trees]], and a few others which indicates a potential ability on the part of these organisms to withstand the whim of the beholder, since their ability to generate untruthfulness is indeterminate. Therefore, not only are they unreliable, but they may have powers over us that we do not fully understand.
-==Whim of the Beholder and the [[Heh-blammo Balance]]==
+==Whim of the Beholder and the Heh-blammo Balance==
 One of the key questions remaining is whether the [[Heh-blammo balance]] is maintained by the [[Brothers of the Lantern]] through their exercise of the whim of the beholder. If this is the case, then there may be closer similarities between them and the [[Order of Mnerr]], who steadfastly work to ensure that if a tree falls in the forest, it ''does'' make a sound.

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 ==Kmuppens and the Whim of the Beholder==
-It was, of course, the taxonomist [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy|Ull Gitshire Kumuppens]] who brought the Observational Principle to the forefront of Ghyllian science. Kmuppens' categories are ''"based on their internal and external visual characteristics, their reproduction and feeding habits and the whim of the beholder."'' Particularly in Kmuppens' time, and still to a lesser degree true to this day, the scientist has the capacity to formulate new discoveries.
+It was, of course, the taxonomist [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy|Ull Gitshire Kmuppens]] who brought the Observational Principle to the forefront of Ghyllian science. Kmuppens' categories are ''"based on their internal and external visual characteristics, their reproduction and feeding habits and the whim of the beholder."'' Particularly in Kmuppens' time, and still to a lesser degree true to this day, the scientist has the capacity to formulate new discoveries.
 The special (maybe?) quantum criterion is particularly important in considering the whim of the beholder. This designation is the value that is given to [[Rich Earth Cactus|rich earth cacti]], [[Phaelros|phaelrosen]], [[Pziqq trees|Desert Pziqq trees]], and a few others which indicates a potential ability on the part of these organisms to withstand the whim of the beholder, since their ability to generate untruthfulness is indeterminate. Therefore, not only are they unreliable, but they may have powers over us that we do not fully understand.

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   in Ghyll in the year -392 [[EC]].
-'''Citations''': [[King Harandraff the Great]], [[Grenfing]], [[Absolute Erasure]].
+'''Citations''': [[Absolute Erasure]], [[King Harandraff the Great]], [[Grenfing]].
 --[[User:Brother Arfrus|Brother Arfrus]] 19:16, 28 October 2005 (EDT)
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+[[Category:Phenomena]]

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	Research and scholasticism in Ghyll, for at least the last few centuries, has relied on the Observational Principle. The '''whim of the beholder''' is the means by which a researcher is able to cause observed phenomena to be fact, even if what is observed is just something the researcher has created by their own preferences and biases.		Research and scholasticism in Ghyll, for at least the last few centuries, has relied on the Observational Principle. The '''whim of the beholder''' is the means by which a researcher is able to cause observed phenomena to be fact, even if what is observed is just something the researcher has created by their own preferences and biases.

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-Research and scholasticism in Ghyll, for at lest the last few centuries, has relied on the Observational Principle.  The Whim of the beholder is the means by which a researcher is able to cause observed phenomena to be fact, even if what is observed is just something the researcher has created by their own preferences and biases.
+Research and scholasticism in Ghyll, for at least the last few centuries, has relied on the Observational Principle. The '''whim of the beholder''' is the means by which a researcher is able to cause observed phenomena to be fact, even if what is observed is just something the researcher has created by their own preferences and biases.
-== The Observational Principle ==
+==The Observational Principle==
-The Observational Principle holds that no event occurs unless and until it has been observed.
+The Observational Principle holds that no event occurs unless and until it has been observed. Consequently, there was no distinction between [[darseed]]s and puffball flowers until [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy|Kmuppens]] took the time to observe that there were differences between them, and wrote them down. Until that time, no one had bothered to notice that there was in fact anything that distinguished one from the other. Now that it has been pointed out, any schoolchild can tell the difference between a [[darseed]] and a puffball.
-Consequently, there was no distinction between [[Darseed]]s and puffball flowers until [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy|Kmuppens]] took the time to observe that there were differences between them, and wrote them down.  Until that time, no one had bothered to notice that there was in fact anything that distinguished one from the other.  Now that it has been pointed out, any schoolchild can tell the difference between a [[Darseed|darseed]] and a puffball.
+But, once an observation has been made, the facts, which may have been indeterminate until that time, are henceforth fixed. The whim of the beholder may, in fact, serve to influence the facts in the matter. This is a matter that is debated by philosophers. But I cannot determine that you are not an ordinary Ghyllian but instead a hideous, carpaceless, pink grub just by looking at you, because you have already been observed and distinguished beforehand. The whim of the beholder can only be applied to previously indeterminate phenomena.
-But, once an observation has been made, the facts, which may have been indeterminate until that time, are henceforth fixed.  The '''whim of the beholder''' may, in fact, serve to influence the facts in the matter.  This is a matter that is debated by philosophers.  But I cannot determine that you are not an ordinary Ghyllian but instead a hideous, carpaceless, pink grub just by looking at you, because you have already been observed and distinguished beforehand.  The whim of the beholder can only be applied to previously indeterminate phenomena.
+Because of this misunderstanding, the whim of the beholder has come to be misused all too often in common parlance. The establishment of fact that the Observational Principle describes applies to the initial observer only. Once a phenomenon or an object has been observed, no future changes can be affected, although folk superstitions such as the notion that a witch can curse people by looking at them or that the sun warms things by looking at them, still abound.
 When the scholar [[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] writes about the [[Order of Mnerr]]: ''"Regardless of how ... .. passive the monks of [[Order of Mnerr|Mnerr]] are, you'd think them a crazy bunch once you got to know them; that is, got to know the literature that's been distributed about them. Could - Be - [[User:Brother Arfrus|Arfrus]] won't confirm or deny the more religious and cultural of the following, but most are accepted as truth, especially those at the whim of the beholder:"'' he is writing in the vernacular sense, rather than the scientific sense of the phrase.
-== Pre-Harandraffian Knowledge ==
+==Pre-Harandraffian Knowledge==
-It is well known that [[King Harandraff the Great]] sought to obliterate all knowledge, other than histories that were favorable to him, personally.  Very few records of any sort survived the [[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian Period]].  In the aftermath, with very little information available, everyone was forced to start making things up.
+It is well known that [[King Harandraff the Great]] sought to obliterate all knowledge, other than histories that were favorable to him, personally. Very few records of any sort survived the [[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian Period]]. In the aftermath, with very little information available, everyone was forced to start making things up.
-The evolution of [[Ponce Gardening]] is one of the first post-[[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian]] expressions of popular observation taking place.  Sailors who enjoyed exercising their whims would go out and collect interesting things from the sea in order to classify them.  This is why so many phrases about ill-informed scholars have a nautical theme: ''He's only got one oar in the water'', ''Sails full and tied to the dock'', etc.
+It is believed, though this is, of course, only conjectural, that there were many, many scholars in the land before Harandraff came to power, and that [[King Harandraff the Great]], and his anti-librarian, Borges W. Gush, tried to systematically remove as much knowledge as he possibly could. Logically, then, there were hundreds if not thousands of scholars, philosophers and other learned types who were put to death during this period. But something more insidious must have taken place. In order for so much knowledge to have been forgotten, not only would the scholars had to have been put to death, but some kind of forgetfulness must have been forced upon the remaining populace in some fashion.
-== Kmuppens and the Whim of the Beholder ==
+Practices such as [[grenfing]] may have originated as a means of storing and collecting information during the [[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian Period]]. After the intellectual suppression of that period, the practice was able to become something that was solely recreational, rather than as a clandestine method of preserving information.
-Kmuppens' categories are ''"based on their internal and external visual characteristics, their reproduction and feeding habits and the whim of the beholder."''  Particularly in Kmuppens' time, and still to a lesser degree true to this day, the scientist has the capacity to formulate new discoveries.
+The evolution of [[Ponce Gardening]] is one of the first post-[[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian]] expressions of popular observation taking place. Sailors who enjoyed exercising their whims would go out and collect interesting things from the sea in order to classify them. This is why so many phrases about ill-informed scholars have a nautical theme: ''He's only got one oar in the water'', ''Sails full and tied to the dock'', etc.
-The special (maybe?) quantum criterion is particularly important in considering the '''whim of the beholder'''.  This designation is the value that is given to [[Rich Earth Cactus|rich earth cacti]], [[Phaelros|phaelrosen]], [[Pziqq trees|Desert Pziqq trees]], and a few others which indicates a potential ability on the part of these organisms to withstand the '''whim of the beholder''', since their ability to generate untruthfulness is indeterminate.  Therefore, not only are they unreliable, but they may have powers over us that we do not fully understand.
+==Kmuppens and the Whim of the Beholder==
-== Whim of the Beholder and the Heh-Blammo Balance ==
+The special (maybe?) quantum criterion is particularly important in considering the whim of the beholder. This designation is the value that is given to [[Rich Earth Cactus|rich earth cacti]], [[Phaelros|phaelrosen]], [[Pziqq trees|Desert Pziqq trees]], and a few others which indicates a potential ability on the part of these organisms to withstand the whim of the beholder, since their ability to generate untruthfulness is indeterminate. Therefore, not only are they unreliable, but they may have powers over us that we do not fully understand.
-== Finally, An Experiment in the Whim of the Beholder ==
+==Whim of the Beholder and the [[Heh-blammo Balance]]==
-For years scientists and historians have wondered about how it came to be that so much knowledge was apparently lost during the [[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian Period]].  The very existence of this encyclopedia project is a testament to the fact that, at some point in the past, some cataclysmic event '''''must''''' have happened.  No scholar or historian has been able to identify it to date.
+One of the key questions remaining is whether the [[Heh-blammo balance]] is maintained by the [[Brothers of the Lantern]] through their exercise of the whim of the beholder. If this is the case, then there may be closer similarities between them and the [[Order of Mnerr]], who steadfastly work to ensure that if a tree falls in the forest, it ''does'' make a sound.
-Therefore, as an experiment in the power of the '''whim of the beholder''', I propose to outline the mechanism by which this vast removal of information took place.  If I can successfully exert my whim, historical records will begin to incline toward the identification of this fact as truth, and supporting evidence will begin to mount.
+==Finally, An Experiment in the Whim of the Beholder==
-Thus, the experiment.  The following statement is my '''whim''':
+Therefore, as an experiment in the power of the whim of the beholder, I propose to outline the mechanism by which this vast removal of information took place. If I can successfully exert my whim, historical records will begin to incline toward the identification of this fact as truth, and supporting evidence will begin to mount. Thus, the experiment. The following statement is my whim:
   [[King Harandraff the Great|King Harandraff]] and his cronies

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 Research and scholasticism in Ghyll, for at lest the last few centuries, has relied on the Observational Principle.  The Whim of the beholder is the means by which a researcher is able to cause observed phenomena to be fact, even if what is observed is just something the researcher has created by their own preferences and biases.
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 The Observational Principle holds that no event occurs unless and until it has been observed.
-Consequently, there was no distinction between [[Darseed]]s and puffball flowers until [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy|Kmuppens]] took the time to observe that there were differences between them, and wrote them down.  Until that time, no one had bothered to notice that there was in fact a difference between them.
+Consequently, there was no distinction between [[Darseed]]s and puffball flowers until [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy|Kmuppens]] took the time to observe that there were differences between them, and wrote them down.  Until that time, no one had bothered to notice that there was in fact anything that distinguished one from the other.
 But, once an observation has been made, the facts, which may have been indeterminate until that time, are henceforth fixed.  The whim of the beholder may, in fact, serve to influence the facts in the matter.  This is a matter that is debated by philosophers.  But I cannot determine that you are not an ordinary Ghyllian but instead a hideous, carpaceless, pink grub just by looking at you, because you have already been observed and distinguished beforehand.  The '''Whim of the beholder''' can only be applied to previously indeterminate phenomena.
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 But something more insidious must have taken place.  In order for so much knowledge to have been forgotten, not only would the scholars had to have been put to death, but some kind of forgetfulness must have been forced upon the remaining populace in some fashion.
 Practices such as [[Grenfing]] may have originated as a means of storing and collecting information during the [[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian Period]].  After the intellectual suppression of that period, the practice was able to become something that was solely recreational, rather than as a clandestine method of preserving information.
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 It was, of course, the taxonomist [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy|Ull Gitshire Kumuppens]] who brought the Observational Principle to the forefront of Ghyllian science.
-Taxonomic identification continues to this day, and therefore there are
+Kmuppens' categories are, of course, ''"based on their internal and external visual characteristics, their reproduction and feeding habits and the whim of the beholder."''  Particularly in Kmuppens' time, and still to a lesser degree true to this day, the scientist has the capacity to formulate new discoveries.
 == Observation and the Heh-Blammo Balance ==
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 == Finally, An Experiment in the Whim of the Beholder ==
-For years scientists and historians have wondered about how it came to be that so much knowledge was apparently lost during the [[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian Period]].
+For years scientists and historians have wondered about how it came to be that so much knowledge was apparently lost during the [[King Harandraff the Great|Harandraffian Period]].  The very existence of this encyclopedia project is a testament to the fact that, at some point in the past, some cataclysmic event '''''must''''' have happened.  No scholar or historian has been able to identify it to date.
 '''Citations''': [[King Harandraff the Great]], [[Grenfing]], [[x]].
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 --[[User:Brother Arfrus|Brother Arfrus]] 19:16, 28 October 2005 (EDT)
+[[Category: Phenomena]]
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	or does whim of the beholder categorize the order (and the commensurate problems since whims are notoriously opposed to orders of any kind.		or does whim of the beholder categorize the order (and the commensurate problems since whims are notoriously opposed to orders of any kind.

		+	Research and scholasticism in Ghyll, for at lest the last few centuries, has relied on the Observational Principle. The Whim of the beholder is the means by which a researcher is able to cause observed phenomena to be fact, even if what is observed is just something the researcher has created by their own preferences and biases.

−	''"Regardless of how ... .. passive the monks of Mneer are, you'd think them a crazy bunch once you got to know them; that is, got to know the literature that's been distributed about them. Could - Be - Arfrus won't confirm or deny the more religious and cultural of the following, but most are accepted as truth, especially those at the whim of the beholder:"''	+	== The Observational Principle ==
		+	The Observational Principle holds that no event occurs unless and until it has been observed.
		+
		+	Consequently, there was no distinction between [[Darseed]]s and puffball flowers until [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy\|Kmuppens]] took the time to observe that there were differences between them, and wrote them down. Until that time, no one had bothered to notice that there was in fact a difference between them.
		+
		+	But, once an observation has been made, the facts, which may have been indeterminate until that time, are henceforth fixed. The whim of the beholder may, in fact, serve to influence the facts in the matter. This is a matter that is debated by philosophers. But I cannot determine that you are not an ordinary Ghyllian but instead a hideous, carpaceless, pink grub just by looking at you, because you have already been observed and distinguished beforehand. The '''Whim of the beholder''' can only be applied to previously indeterminate phenomena.
		+
		+	Because of this misunderstanding, the '''Whim of the beholder''' has come to be misused all to often in common parlance. The establishment of fact that the Observational Principle describes applies to the initial observer only. Once a phenomenon or an object has been observed, no future changes can be affected, although folk superstitions such as the notion that a witch can curse people by looking at them or that the sun warms things by looking at them, still abound.
		+
		+	When the scholar [[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] writes about the [[Order of Mnerr]]: ''"Regardless of how ... .. passive the monks of [[Order of Mnerr\|Mneer]] are, you'd think them a crazy bunch once you got to know them; that is, got to know the literature that's been distributed about them. Could - Be - [[User:Brother Arfrus\|Arfrus]] won't confirm or deny the more religious and cultural of the following, but most are accepted as truth, especially those at the whim of the beholder:"'' he is writing in the vernacular sense, rather than the scientific sense of the phrase.
		+
		+	== Pre-Harandraffian Knowledge ==
		+	It is, of course, well known that [[King Harandraff the Great]] sought to obliterate all knowledge, other than histories that were favorable to him, personally. Very few records of any sort survived the [[King Harandraff the Great\|Harandraffian Period]]. In the aftermath, with very little information available, everyone was forced to start making things up.
		+
		+	It is believed, though this is, of course, only conjectural, that there were many, many scholars in the land before Harandraff came to power, and that King Harandraff, and his anti-librarian, Borges W. Gush, tried to systematically remove as much knowledge as he possibly could. Logically, then, there were hundreds if not thousands of scholars, philosophers and other learned types who were put to death during this period.
		+
		+	But something more insidious must have taken place. In order for so much knowledge to have been forgotten, not only would the scholars had to have been put to death, but some kind of forgetfulness must have been forced upon the remaining populace in some fashion.
		+
		+
		+
		+
		+	Practices such as [[Grenfing]] may have originated as a means of storing and collecting information during the [[King Harandraff the Great\|Harandraffian Period]]. After the intellectual suppression of that period, the practice was able to become something that was solely recreational, rather than as a clandestine method of preserving information.
		+
		+	The evolution of [[Ponce Gardening]] is one of the first post-[[King Harandraff the Great\|Harandraffian]] expressions of popular observation taking place. Sailors who enjoyed exercising their whims would go out and collect interesting things from the sea in order to classify them. This is why so many phrases about ill-informed scholars have a nautical theme: ''He's only got one oar in the water'', ''Sails full and tied to the dock'', etc.
		+
		+	== Kmuppens and the Whim of the Beholder ==
		+	It was, of course, the taxonomist [[Kmuppens' Taxonomy\|Ull Gitshire Kumuppens]] who brought the Observational Principle to the forefront of Ghyllian science.
		+
		+	Taxonomic identification continues to this day, and therefore there are
		+
		+	== Observation and the Heh-Blammo Balance ==
		+	One of the key questions remaining is whether the [[Heh-blammo balance]] is maintained by the [[Brothers of the Lantern]] through their exercise of the '''Whim of the beholder'''. If this is the case, then there may be closer similarities between them and the [[Order of Mnerr]], who steadfastly work to ensure that if a tree falls in the forest, it '''''does''''' make a sound.
		+
		+	== Finally, An Experiment in the Whim of the Beholder ==
		+	For years scientists and historians have wondered about how it came to be that so much knowledge was apparently lost during the [[King Harandraff the Great\|Harandraffian Period]].
		+
		+
		+
		+	'''Citations''': [[King Harandraff the Great]], [[Grenfing]], [[x]].
		+
		+	--[[User:Brother Arfrus\|Brother Arfrus]] 19:16, 28 October 2005 (EDT)
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