Ghyll:Round 2 discussion - Revision history

Morbus Iff at 14:23, 23 May 2005

2005-05-23T14:23:53Z

Jcowan: Misspelling removed.

2005-05-17T21:11:50Z

Misspelling removed.

Fausto Sorensen: /* Of your two phantom citations, only one can be new */

2005-05-17T17:14:44Z

Of your two phantom citations, only one can be new

Fausto Sorensen: /* Of your two phantom citations, only one can be new */

2005-05-17T16:59:12Z

Of your two phantom citations, only one can be new

Finna Sunderhorn: Unfortunate, not enough time this week.

2005-05-16T15:31:07Z

Unfortunate, not enough time this week.

Morbus Iff: Editing and answering all leftover questions.

2005-05-13T16:02:11Z

Editing and answering all leftover questions.

Morbus Iff: Replacing link to the Round 1 Spotlights.

2005-05-13T15:17:20Z

Replacing link to the Round 1 Spotlights.

Nikos of Ant: geography

2005-05-07T13:25:21Z

geography

Lankin: Questions about geography

2005-05-07T01:39:13Z

Questions about geography

Urik Orr: /* Do you plan on playing regularly in Round 2? */

2005-05-06T03:02:52Z

Do you plan on playing regularly in Round 2?

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 :I, too, have some questions about geography.  I actually posted my questions on the FAQ page, but I would love an answer either on that page or on this one.  --[[User:Nikos of Ant|Nikos of Ant]] 09:25, 7 May 2005 (EDT)
-::Geography will be unfrozen for Round 2 (and I'll be updating that page shortly to reflect this). I would, however, like to state the blatantly understood: be kind. Don't create an entry that defines fifty new places. If you're gonna create a place, make sure it's in relation to something else (with measurements, if possible) such that it can actually go on the map (of course, if your entry hinges on the place being mysterious, lost, undiscoverable, destroyed, ruined, etc., you can skip this suggestion). Try to remain, to some degree, "local" - don't define a place that is way over on "the other side of the world", such that it creates a "pocket" of entries that don't easily (or reasonably) relate to the rest of known Ghyll. At this point, the [[Xurient]] is the farthest away from known Ghyll, but there's plenty of "local" unexplored regions to the north (the [[Sarfelogian_Mountains]]), south (the [[Cactus forests]]), west (the distance between [[Mount Yurch]]) and east (the distance between the [[Xurient]].) --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 12:02, 13 May 2005 (EDT)
+::Geography will be unfrozen for Round 2 (and I'll be updating that page shortly to reflect this). I would, however, like to state the blatantly understood: be kind. Don't create an entry that defines fifty new places. If you're gonna create a place, make sure it's in relation to something else (with measurements, if possible) such that it can actually go on the map (of course, if your entry hinges on the place being mysterious, lost, undiscoverable, destroyed, ruined, etc., you can skip this suggestion). Try to remain, to some degree, "local" - don't define a place that is way over on "the other side of the world", such that it creates a "pocket" of entries that don't easily (or reasonably) relate to the rest of known Ghyll. At this point, the [[Xurient]] is the farthest away from known Ghyll, but there's plenty of "local" unexplored regions to the north (the [[Sarfelogian Mountains]]), south (the [[cactus forests]]), west (the distance between [[Mount Yurch]]) and east (the distance between the [[Xurient]].) --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 12:02, 13 May 2005 (EDT)
-Due to finals week, I will not be able to contribute anything for the letter A. Hopefully, I will be able to contribute next week.--[[User:Finna Sunderhorn|Finna Sunderhorn]] 11:31, 16 May 2005 (EDT)
+Due to finals week, I will not be able to contribute anything for the letter A. Hopefully, I will be able to contribute next week. --[[User:Finna Sunderhorn|Finna Sunderhorn]] 11:31, 16 May 2005 (EDT)
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 The goal is to ensure that every round has a "fresh start" with new branches of story. By not requiring a phantom to be defined for letter 'A' (regardless of leftover phantoms from previous rounds), we're always "starting" fresh with new, as opposed to already established, content. Of course, Truth from previous rounds must still be accepted as such, and existing 'A' phantoms may be dibbed if a player so decides.
-:So, in other words, if we are starting a new Round and there are 5 phantoms for A but I don't like any of those phantoms, I can create a new entry for A and start from there?  Or would this apply to any turn in a round in which there are no phantoms in existance for that turn?  No C phantoms on turn 3, for example. --[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 01:10, 25 Apr 2005 (EDT)
+:So, in other words, if we are starting a new Round and there are 5 phantoms for A but I don't like any of those phantoms, I can create a new entry for A and start from there?  Or would this apply to any turn in a round in which there are no phantoms in existence for that turn?  No C phantoms on turn 3, for example. --[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 01:10, 25 Apr 2005 (EDT)
 ::Yes, both. There is already a rule that, if there are no valid phantoms remaining for a letter, a scholar writes a brand new entry. This rule just gives turn A, and only turn A, more power than usual, solely because it is the start of a new Round. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 08:50, 25 Apr 2005 (EDT)

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 This is important to keep down the proliferation of phantoms;
 <br />at the end of Round 1, we have almost as many phantoms as articles.
 ===Rule of A: Scholars may always write new, non-phantom, turn A entries===

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 This is important to keep down the proliferation of phantoms;
 <br />at the end of Round 1, we have almost as many phantoms as articles.
 ===Rule of A: Scholars may always write new, non-phantom, turn A entries===

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	::Geography will be unfrozen for Round 2 (and I'll be updating that page shortly to reflect this). I would, however, like to state the blatantly understood: be kind. Don't create an entry that defines fifty new places. If you're gonna create a place, make sure it's in relation to something else (with measurements, if possible) such that it can actually go on the map (of course, if your entry hinges on the place being mysterious, lost, undiscoverable, destroyed, ruined, etc., you can skip this suggestion). Try to remain, to some degree, "local" - don't define a place that is way over on "the other side of the world", such that it creates a "pocket" of entries that don't easily (or reasonably) relate to the rest of known Ghyll. At this point, the [[Xurient]] is the farthest away from known Ghyll, but there's plenty of "local" unexplored regions to the north (the [[Sarfelogian_Mountains]]), south (the [[Cactus forests]]), west (the distance between [[Mount Yurch]]) and east (the distance between the [[Xurient]].) --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 12:02, 13 May 2005 (EDT)		::Geography will be unfrozen for Round 2 (and I'll be updating that page shortly to reflect this). I would, however, like to state the blatantly understood: be kind. Don't create an entry that defines fifty new places. If you're gonna create a place, make sure it's in relation to something else (with measurements, if possible) such that it can actually go on the map (of course, if your entry hinges on the place being mysterious, lost, undiscoverable, destroyed, ruined, etc., you can skip this suggestion). Try to remain, to some degree, "local" - don't define a place that is way over on "the other side of the world", such that it creates a "pocket" of entries that don't easily (or reasonably) relate to the rest of known Ghyll. At this point, the [[Xurient]] is the farthest away from known Ghyll, but there's plenty of "local" unexplored regions to the north (the [[Sarfelogian_Mountains]]), south (the [[Cactus forests]]), west (the distance between [[Mount Yurch]]) and east (the distance between the [[Xurient]].) --[[User:Morbus Iff\|Morbus Iff]] 12:02, 13 May 2005 (EDT)
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		+	Due to finals week, I will not be able to contribute anything for the letter A. Hopefully, I will be able to contribute next week.--[[User:Finna Sunderhorn\|Finna Sunderhorn]] 11:31, 16 May 2005 (EDT)

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 Unfortunately, no.  The divorce and job change have created too much chaos in my life.  I'll finish this round, but I cannot say when I'll be able to return. --[[User:PhineasCrank|Doctor Phineas Crank]] 10:00, 16 Apr 2005 (EDT)
-New player, I'll be here!  --[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 17:09, 16 Apr 2005 (CST)
+:Sorry to hear that, Doctor Crank. You'll be missed. --[[User:Jcowan|John Cowan]] 10:16, 16 Apr 2005 (EDT)
-:Just like to make it known that from May 14 (start of Round 2) til May 20 (or so) I will more than likely be away from any internet access, so I will likely ''not'' have an entry for A for Round 2.  Just thought it should be known. --[[User:Undrhil|Trousle Undrhil]] 01:07, 25 Apr 2005 (EDT)
 I'm new but I definitely want to be in on the next round. --[[User:xfalselogicx|Jonathon Howard]] 18:09, 20 Apr 2005
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 Yes, I'm new here. I have become very intrigued about this world, and I hope that I am able to produce interesting entries for round 2. In the meantime, I'll try to read as many entries as possible! --[[User:Mr. Stokes|Mr. Stokes]] 14:59, 24 Apr 2005 (EDT)
-I would also like to join. It's quite a unique idea. But I have a suggestion. Would it be easier to get a free forum and link to that and have sections on all these things? I was kind of confused when I first came. --[[User:Ellidyr|Ellidyr]] 19:26, 24 Apr 2005 (EDT)
+I would also like to join. It's quite a unique idea. --[[User:Ellidyr|Ellidyr]] 19:26, 24 Apr 2005 (EDT)
 I'm game for Round 2, I've got a lil' over 14 days to read up!  --[[User:Nikos of Ant|Nikos of Ant]] 27 Apr 2005
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 ::I just wanted to make sure I have the correct understanding of procedues before Round 2 begins. On Saturday 14 May, I can submit an 'A' article. Being the 'A' turn, it doesn't have to be a pre-existing phantom. The turn finishes on the following Friday, by which time I have to have completed and finalised my 'A' entry. --[[User:Urik Orr|Urik Orr]] 04:00, 4 May 2005 (EDT)
 :::Does that necessarily mean that if it's not an 'A' turn, the entry has to be a pre-existing phantom? --[[User:Rufian|Rufian]] 18:10, 5 May 2005 (EDT)
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 :::I think, though I am as new as you, that Rule #4 (on the ''Main Page'') answers your question, ie. ''After the first turn, all phantoms for a letter shall be written before new entries are created''.  If I read this correctly, once Turn 'B' starts we are limited to defining only already existing phantoms, unless and until they are all dibbed out.  This is my reading of the rule, if I am wrong, some of you in the know jump in.  --[[User:Nikos of Ant|Nikos of Ant]] 19:45, 5 May 2005 (EDT)
-::The dates are confusing me, and it would be appreciated if someone could confirm that I'm understanding this correctly. I don't want to begin Round 2 by breaking rules. I have until the end of turn 1 (Friday 20 May) to upload an 'A' entry. On Saturday 21 May turn 2 begins and I dib a 'B' phantom. I then have until Friday 27 May to write my 'B' entry (which contains two new phantoms). The following day turn 3 begins and I dib a 'C' phantom. And so on. Have I assumed correctly? --[[User:Urik Orr|Urik Orr]] 23:02, 5 May 2005 (EDT)
+::::Correct. Except for A, all phantoms MUST be defined before any new entries can be. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 12:02, 13 May 2005 (EDT)
 I've just joined the group; looking forward to participating in an actively working wiki.  Any suggestions for orienting ourselves for new participants (shorter than reading everything on the whole site)? --[[User:Brother Arfrus|Brother Arfrus]] 10:52, 3 May 2005 (EDT)
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 ::Thank you.  That helps get my research started.  I found the [[WhereIsWhere|Ghyll Geography]] also to be useful.  As a cloistered researcher with limited resources, I hope to concentrate on just a few topics of interest. --[[User:Brother Arfrus|Brother Arfrus]] 10:38, 4 May 2005 (EDT)
-I have a couple of questions about the geography of Ghyll. The Geography sections clearly states that it's frozen and that no new areas can be added. Does this mean that we can't make ''any'' new places? Like towns and hamlets and such? Or is it only large features like mountains and countries which can't be added at this point? Where's the limit? Secondly, said section also states that the gaography ''might'' get un-frozen in the second round. Any news on this? --[[User:Lankin|Lankin the Mad Mage]] 21:39, 6 May 2005 (EDT)
+I have a couple of questions about the geography of Ghyll. The Geography sections clearly states that it's frozen and that no new areas can be added. Does this mean that we can't make ''any'' new places? Like towns and hamlets and such? Or is it only large features like mountains and countries which can't be added at this point? Where's the limit? Secondly, said section also states that the geography ''might'' get un-frozen in the second round. Any news on this? --[[User:Lankin|Lankin the Mad Mage]] 21:39, 6 May 2005 (EDT)
 :I, too, have some questions about geography.  I actually posted my questions on the FAQ page, but I would love an answer either on that page or on this one.  --[[User:Nikos of Ant|Nikos of Ant]] 09:25, 7 May 2005 (EDT)
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 I've just joined the group; looking forward to participating in an actively working wiki.  Any suggestions for orienting ourselves for new participants (shorter than reading everything on the whole site)? --[[User:Brother Arfrus|Brother Arfrus]] 10:52, 3 May 2005 (EDT)
-:Welp, hmm. You could read through the [[:Category:Encyclopedants|Encyclopedants]] pages to get a partial overview of the early rounds, as well as a global metaview of timelines, etc. But there's really no Overview or shortcut to Ghyll just yet. You could check out the [[Round 1 Spotlights]] too, to get an idea of what I considered the "best" entries for a particular turn. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 11:20, 3 May 2005 (EDT)
+:Welp, hmm. You could read through the [[:Category:Encyclopedants|Encyclopedants]] pages to get a partial overview of the early rounds, as well as a global metaview of timelines, etc. But there's really no Overview or shortcut to Ghyll just yet. You could check out the [[Ghyll Index R1|Round 1 Spotlights]] too, to get an idea of what I considered the "best" entries for a particular turn. --[[User:Morbus Iff|Morbus Iff]] 11:20, 3 May 2005 (EDT)
 ::Thank you.  That helps get my research started.  I found the [[WhereIsWhere|Ghyll Geography]] also to be useful.  As a cloistered researcher with limited resources, I hope to concentrate on just a few topics of interest. --[[User:Brother Arfrus|Brother Arfrus]] 10:38, 4 May 2005 (EDT)

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	::Thank you. That helps get my research started. I found the [[WhereIsWhere\|Ghyll Geography]] also to be useful. As a cloistered researcher with limited resources, I hope to concentrate on just a few topics of interest. --[[User:Brother Arfrus\|Brother Arfrus]] 10:38, 4 May 2005 (EDT)		::Thank you. That helps get my research started. I found the [[WhereIsWhere\|Ghyll Geography]] also to be useful. As a cloistered researcher with limited resources, I hope to concentrate on just a few topics of interest. --[[User:Brother Arfrus\|Brother Arfrus]] 10:38, 4 May 2005 (EDT)

		+	I have a couple of questions about the geography of Ghyll. The Geography sections clearly states that it's frozen and that no new areas can be added. Does this mean that we can't make ''any'' new places? Like towns and hamlets and such? Or is it only large features like mountains and countries which can't be added at this point? Where's the limit? Secondly, said section also states that the gaography ''might'' get un-frozen in the second round. Any news on this? --[[User:Lankin\|Lankin the Mad Mage]] 21:39, 6 May 2005 (EDT)
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	:::I think, though I am as new as you, that Rule #4 (on the ''Main Page'') answers your question, ie. ''After the first turn, all phantoms for a letter shall be written before new entries are created''. If I read this correctly, once Turn 'B' starts we are limited to defining only already existing phantoms, unless and until they are all dibbed out. This is my reading of the rule, if I am wrong, some of you in the know jump in. --[[User:Nikos of Ant\|Nikos of Ant]] 19:45, 5 May 2005 (EDT)		:::I think, though I am as new as you, that Rule #4 (on the ''Main Page'') answers your question, ie. ''After the first turn, all phantoms for a letter shall be written before new entries are created''. If I read this correctly, once Turn 'B' starts we are limited to defining only already existing phantoms, unless and until they are all dibbed out. This is my reading of the rule, if I am wrong, some of you in the know jump in. --[[User:Nikos of Ant\|Nikos of Ant]] 19:45, 5 May 2005 (EDT)
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		+	::The dates are confusing me, and it would be appreciated if someone could confirm that I'm understanding this correctly. I don't want to begin Round 2 by breaking rules. I have until the end of turn 1 (Friday 20 May) to upload an 'A' entry. On Saturday 21 May turn 2 begins and I dib a 'B' phantom. I then have until Friday 27 May to write my 'B' entry (which contains two new phantoms). The following day turn 3 begins and I dib a 'C' phantom. And so on. Have I assumed correctly? --[[User:Urik Orr\|Urik Orr]] 23:02, 5 May 2005 (EDT)

	I've just joined the group; looking forward to participating in an actively working wiki. Any suggestions for orienting ourselves for new participants (shorter than reading everything on the whole site)? --[[User:Brother Arfrus\|Brother Arfrus]] 10:52, 3 May 2005 (EDT)		I've just joined the group; looking forward to participating in an actively working wiki. Any suggestions for orienting ourselves for new participants (shorter than reading everything on the whole site)? --[[User:Brother Arfrus\|Brother Arfrus]] 10:52, 3 May 2005 (EDT)