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Unemployment Journal VII: Zen and the Art of Rejection
Posted Mon Feb 26 19:21:18 2001 by ebitch

last thursday

dear unemployment journal,

i am sitting in the lobby of the grand hyatt hotel on 42nd street on a marble structure near a fountain with suits all around me. my friend has an interview here, and i was just around the corner recording my commentary for national public radio. i am wearing lipstick and look like somebody important.

i had fun recording my commentary at national public radio's new york bureau. the man there, chris, offered me my choice of either a malted milk ball or swedish fish when i was leaving. i chose the swedish fish. later, i pulled it out of my pocket and gave it to someone i dig.

i can't believe i didn't think of this before. each day, i can choose a new, fancy hotel lobby and hang out there. they have outlets for my computer, but no telephone, t-1 lines, or lattes.

drab nomenclature

have you noticed a new trend in which dot-coms name themselves as if they were economy cars made by dodge or ford? i once worked for a company called "actbig" that was trying to compete with mercada, accompany, and other group-purchase plays but it was so complicated that no matter what was tried, nobody could convey what the site offered or how one might go about obtaining whatever the _fuck_ it was that was offered. i have learned they changed their name to etrana.

not only was that positively the most _suck-ass_ job i've ever had in my entire life, but doesn't it sound like a low-end economy car? and what the fuck are they selling? can someone please tell me?

here's another: corante.

i am good at making up names that sound like low-end economy cars.

silata
jarumba
shivada
om
namah
shivaya

if you send me five dollars via pay pal, i will generate some names for you. i can even blend in musical sounds and various ethnicities.

fundamentalist dream

my friend had a dream in which i was contacted by a fundamentalist christian web site called ibelieve.com. they had fifty (50) million in funding and wanted me as their spokesperson. it was hard to be their spokesperson, because it was no longer a site about something, but about me, and i was charged with speaking about this about-me site.

in a way, this resembles consciousness itself. speaking of which, i finally finished robert pirsig's zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. i started it in 1997, early in my dot-com career. three apartments, two zip codes, and four jobs later, i finished.

last tuesday

i began the day with some fame, my npr debut was glorious albeit imperfect because my last name was incorrectly noted and i did not have enough notice to send out a proper press release.

i have received several lunch and dinner invitations. i hope everybody understands that as i am unemployed, the meal is on them.

got email from some recruiter, one with zero humor and interpersonal skill.

note to self: i think i am less interested in being a recruiter. i was thinking i might like to do that, but now i don't know.

so this recruiter is sending my resume to a company that does something with accountants, not all that interesting but they did not balk at my salary requirements and the job could be...a challenge.

then, i received a mild-mannered rejection email from a company i interviewed with last week. just as well:

(1) one of the women i met with was a little too young and perky and i knew in my heart she would be on my nerves.
(2) one of the guys who interviewed me was drunk.
(3) i'm not turned on by the presence of wind chimes which announce a deal has been done.
(4) when you close a deal, you are required to buy beer for everyone. i don't drink, and i am not interested in such frat-like shenanigans. is that supposed to be enticing or cool?
(5) location: a gloomy street between seventh and eight avenues with a couple of skanky-ass delis, not a starbucks for blocks, and no damn coffee machine in the office itself.
(6) i wasn't into being there at nine a.m. what's _that_ about?
 
Posted Comments:post a comment!
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Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Fri Mar 2 09:08:02 2001
Comment: For that position--is that a MS certification, or do they primarily hire UNIX?

Name: Paul
Email: winopaul@yahoo.com
Date: Fri Mar 2 03:54:16 2001
Comment: So today the founder of the company gives me the great news that I am actually geting a paycheck today. Then he points out that there is no more money to pay me so "we" will have to work out some work for stock deal. Only my landlord will not take a promise of non existant stock in a pre-ipo internet startup for rent. Now Steve, am I to understand there is a position available as a toothy tampon remover/installer? I'm wondering--does it pay in cash or those damn stock options and is there a relocation package from Silicon Valley to Silicon Alley? Tampon installations. That's just the kind of low-tech job I need after this last year in the Tom Swift wonder brigade.

Perhaaps the year of the snake will be the year of lowered expectations. I hope not. I heartily agree that to take a job in desperation is only to play with a time bomb. It will blow you apart sooner or later. Better to sit in hotel rooms and drink lattes. Far more relaxing and you meet a better class of people. Tell ebitch to hang at the Ritz-Carlton and write up her experiences.

Name: IJUMPEDMYBIKEOVER "SARCHASM"
Email: magicalkittenfrenzy@netlaves.com
Date: Fri Mar 2 02:56:34 2001
Comment: bob, what we are dealing with is is a laugh-chasm.

You know--the gaping void between the person who made the joke and the audience who doesn't think it's funny.

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Fri Mar 2 02:02:20 2001
Comment: Lala, what we are dealing with is is a sarchasm

You know--the gaping void between someone making a joke and the shmuck who just doesn't get it.

Name: Lala
Email:
Date: Fri Mar 2 01:26:45 2001
Comment:
And, um, don't you guys have any grasp of irony? Doesn't it occur to you that much of what ebitch writes is self-ironic? Do you really think she seriously cares that there isn't a Starbucks for blocks? I've known ebitch online for awhile, and she cared about the jobs she had. They meant something to her, and she felt they were worthwhile endeavors. FWIW, the "thing" that ebitch and I both specialize in isn't exactly the most highly paid niche in the e-biz world - if she was in it for the money and the perks and the materialism, she sure as hell chose poorly. But she wasn't. So lighten up, and try to develop a sense of humor.

Name: Deborah
Email: decibel@techie.com
Date: Thu Mar 1 23:07:26 2001
Comment: Um, guys... she didn't turn the job down. She's listing the reasons she's glad they turned her down. What should she do, dissolve in a puddle? Jeez, a little sour grapes won't hurt anyone.

Name: Wally
Email: wloude@mailexcite.com
Date: Thu Mar 1 18:01:59 2001
Comment: sbdwestpac: Nothing like working in one of those "built in 1940 to last five years" wooden chicken coops is there??

Name: sbdwestpac
Email: sbdwestpac@aol.com
Date: Thu Mar 1 16:43:27 2001
Comment: Thank you Wally for an intelligent and non-offensive post on this thread. ebitch: get over it. There are no perfect jobs out there. No Starbucks for blocks? Tough shit. I work in a building stuck on the far end of an Army base that is between the airfield and a live fire missile range. I have taken jobs that sucked, including as a security guard because I have a family to support. I'm pushing forty now and know that you will never find a perfect job. But any job is better than unemployment. Every time I read one of your postings all I can see is a staggering load of self-pity. I worked at a factory making minimum wage when I got out of the Navy because nobody was hiring. But I worked my way up into IS positions until I obtained the position I have now, managing a server farm for a DOD agency. You only get to start out on top if you were on top already.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Thu Mar 1 13:50:02 2001
Comment: Wally, you rule, plain and simple.

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Thu Mar 1 11:04:55 2001
Comment: though my typing is pretty grim... :)

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Thu Mar 1 11:01:10 2001
Comment: Turns out the seventies weren't so much better after all, Wally. Check out the lead story/book review over at Salon.com.

Seems like we've got a right to be a bit on the cranky side as a generation as do the boomers and Gens Y and potnetially Z, though I must admit personally things aren't so grim.

Name: Wally
Email: wloude@mailexcite.com
Date: Thu Mar 1 08:50:05 2001
Comment: Being of the Vietnam generation (and a two-time participant on southeast asian scenic tours), I can say that I have been verbally abused, but never spat upon. I think the reference was to the Vietnam generation being type cast as hippies and "spitters upon soldiers" while the current generation is being typecast as materialistic whiners because of "voices" such as ebitch. I agree, I would nver want to work in an office which didnt have coffee, even though in my case it was usually one of the last few cups out of a 30-cup percolator that had been baking for a few hours or so. Why go to a skanky deli when each modern glass-surfaced office building has a "choke and puke" snack bar on the first floor with hamburger prices double that of BK or McD? Talking about unemployment and job hunting, you should have tried the Nixon-Ford-Carter years of the seventies after the aerospace engineering meltdown. Degreed engineers with 10 years of experience were offered 12K per year. In 1978, as a 39 year old MS degreed engineer, I took a government engineering job for 22K and considered myself lucky to have it. I guess to this 62 year old (actually a bit older than the baby boomers (come from the "empty years" of the 30s), the amazing thing about the current crop is their unending capacity for self-pity and whining.

Name: Lala
Email:
Date: Thu Mar 1 02:55:33 2001
Comment: What would John Perry Barlow be doing here? Shouldn't he be over on the Well hanging out in one of the many Grateful Dead conferences with the other hippies?

Name: samezone19
Email:
Date: Thu Mar 1 00:16:31 2001
Comment: I've researched MagicalKittenwhatever and I can say that his IP logs do not match those of John Perry Barlow. So let's put that silly rumor to rest and get on with our overly constrained logs - I mean, lives.

Name: e-ass
Email: gimme@abreak.com
Date: Thu Mar 1 00:11:05 2001
Comment: Great!

Make sure you are talking out loud about how great you are so that we know that it is you. It would be a shame to pass by you and not insult you in person.
How matronly.

Name: ebitch
Email: ebitch@netslaves.com
Date: Wed Feb 28 22:23:33 2001
Comment: hylton and gary, corante does rock. i wrote hylton privately and apologize profusely for not including a paragraph or two about how i dig what corante is doing.

everybody else, it's a small world. i look forward to meeting each of you in person so you can see how far off your harsh, personal judgments about me are.

good night all.
e

Name: gary
Email: gary@corante.com
Date: Wed Feb 28 17:07:16 2001
Comment: For the record, Corante rocks!


Name:
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 16:05:16 2001
Comment: Okay, "an." I tend to worry more about message context than perfect grammatical usage, working abou the grammer only when communication gets mangled. mea culpa

Name:
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 16:00:52 2001
Comment: Okay, "an." I tend to worry more about message context than perfect grammatical usage, working abou the grammer only when communication gets mangled. mea culpa

Name:
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 15:48:50 2001
Comment: "A" English, eh? i bet u were

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Wed Feb 28 13:48:40 2001
Comment: I was a English Composition instructor in a past life, at a major Southeastern university, and agree with nameless.

Your syntax is horrific. Next Question?

Name:
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 13:47:45 2001
Comment: I speak standard American English sir.

Name: panteewadder
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 13:22:29 2001
Comment: r u a professor of english, or do you get off on pointing out glaring errors?

Name:
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 12:51:52 2001
Comment: with syntax like that. . .

Name:
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 12:29:06 2001
Comment: i can forgive ebitch for being a bitch it's intrinsic in her personality. she's a shoddy, self-loathing megalomaniac with an ultrahuge self-esteem issue. self-indulgent whiner.

what i cannot tolerate is her use of the term "mahatma" being sacrileged. the perversion of her philosophy is indicitive of the split personality she must be dealing with, albeit of which she is most probably unaware.
i ask you, ebitch either be a bitch, be proud of it and continue your descecration of the holy, or renounce your profligate and libertinism ways
cry and moan all you want to, just do yourself and others the small courtesy of being thatmuchless inconsiderate and repulsive

Name: LOL
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 12:26:20 2001
Comment: Very funny....nuff said

Name: Hylton Jolliffe
Email: hylton@corante.com
Date: Wed Feb 28 11:25:45 2001
Comment: Hi. Publisher of Corante here. Your right of course if you don't like our name. But just want to make sure you're getting the pronunciation right - it's k?r-?nt or core-aunt.

Thanks, Hylton

Name: beammeup
Email: no@intelligentlife.net
Date: Wed Feb 28 10:08:18 2001
Comment: I thought that was auto conferred by my sophist legislative fiat engine. . .

gentlemen. . . segment your markets.

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Wed Feb 28 09:39:36 2001
Comment: Can I get _exclusive_ rights for the crash and burn? At least that way, I can get a book deal out of it...

Name: beammeup
Email: no@intelligentlife.net
Date: Wed Feb 28 08:56:11 2001
Comment: Oh pale bob. . . I've just decided that I'm blaming you for the entire dot.com thing, yes, all of it. . . My reasoning, in mixed tongues, (culpa, ergo you) . . . I blame, therefore you are. Neo cartesian irrationalism, I trust you'll find the malleability of the internal consistency provides a piquant note of accompaniment to any standard off the shelf philosophy. . .

Name: beammeup
Email: no@intelligentlife.net
Date: Wed Feb 28 08:17:01 2001
Comment: Hey magical gilliard, that's why people post anaon eh? Censorship cometh in all forms and not the least from the sages promoting wisdom?

Name:
Email:
Date: Wed Feb 28 02:46:07 2001
Comment: There is a lot of people here who need to lighten up. Call me naive but I thought that the internet is supposed to be about open and honest communication, regardless of whether or not you agree. So what that magicalkittenfrenzy does not provide contact information? You can post replies here as you have been doing. What did you want to do anyways? Round up some of your friends in your old Chevy pickup, pick up a length of rope and visit him/her in the middle of the night(thems got aylott ov trees up der in Wisconsin). People are getting wrapped up in trivial details.(except for Emily, she's been fairly objective).

As far as his comments go on ebitch, some are valid. The point of the matter is that I still read them despite the fact I don't expect to see her ever win the Pulitzer. I read them because they're light and easily digestible(kind of like Arrowroot cookies, mmmmm). When I have five minutes to kill I'm not looking for Dostoevsky (far too many characters to keep track of, I'm from the generation that was raised on TV you know). Point being are ebitches postings earthshattering? No. Are they enlightening and meaningful? No again. Will they find their place among Hemingway? Definately not. Are they self indulgent? You bet your pretty white cornfed ass they are! Are they a good way to piss away a few minutes of my day? Hell yes! And so I will continue to read them as I am sure others (including Kitten) will. If people didn't enjoy reading crap to escape drudgery Stephen King would be working at Home Depot.

Keep it coming ebitch, if you ever get a job and have to stop writing, I know that I for one will be disappointed.

Name: magical gilliard
Email: mgilliard@hoodforwhiteguys.com
Date: Wed Feb 28 01:49:44 2001
Comment: yo yo yo, magical kitten frenzy, you off the heazy with your comments, you so wack this obeeze DJ don't even know where to start 'cept BRING IT FOO! That's rizzight, me and my neyah ebeyotch be rollin' through ya sheezy blowin' up 15s, glockin' and stalkin'.

Where your e-mail add-double-drizess? Give me your broke-ass web site URL so I can look up your personal contact information on Network Muthafuckin' Solutions.

Fag.

Name: Wank Seance
Email: WankSeance@aol.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 21:02:18 2001
Comment: Hey, what's a subscription cost to NetSlaves on here? Niente? Dat's what I taught, puty cat.

Ebitch is out of work, has plenty of time to resolve the gaps in the Grand Unifed Theory, and writing helps her deal with it. She is one voice in this juiced info "New Economy." She has angst, desires, doubts, passions, etc., just like the rest of us out here in this whacky world trying to avoid suffering and to find our own bit of happiness (according to Buddhist thought).

Ebitch, take your time. Things will get better. You will get back into things when you are ready. We live in a great world and a great time, albeit one that is rarely fair and never constant. Best wishes and keep on writing.

Your friend stuck precariously in the Figure-4 reverse lotus position,

Wank Seance ("So that's THE brass eye! Ah ha!")

Name: Mallory
Email: mallory AT farpeak DOT org
Date: Tue Feb 27 19:34:36 2001
Comment: ebitch would garner much more respect from me if her diary:

a) used capital letters.

b) contained phrases like 'Halved latte consumption, staked out cafe at Borders while culling XML manuals from the herd, spent savings on the survivors in hope of getting new job. Blackmailed sometimes boyfriend into giving account on his second best linux box in order to practice new skills. Standing offer is a blow job for every job interview gotten by dint of new skills, and the full monte for any job offer where net income is more than double my rent.'

Name: steve gilliard
Email: sgilliard@netslaves.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 17:03:31 2001
Comment: Kitty,

As they say in the hood, you're a gutless bitch. If you had balls, you'd say what you thought with a name and an e-mail address. But you're hiding, so we know you can only snipe at other people like a coward.

When I say what I say, anyone can find me. Have been able to for years. Even on fucked company.

And don't you have some tampons to remove with your teeth.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 16:52:05 2001
Comment: Bob, Bob with the Internet Job,

I am disassociating myself from her attitude and the attitude of "people like her" as I said, by attacking her views and opinions. I'm not defending anyone but myself, and even then I am doing that by opening up myself to ridicule from you and your forum zealots. I'm no fucking martyr or "upholder of truth", but by provoking your ire I just further prove that I'm not like you. As for the generation part, I am sure their are condescending fuckfaces in every generation, mine just managed to breed in a lot more holier-than-thou-because-of-my-SUV on the base pairs.

Name: ebitch
Email: ebitch@netslaves.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 15:33:50 2001
Comment: hello, wank. bring on the kundalini. do you practice yoga? thanks in advance.

Name: Wank Seance
Email: WankSeance@aol.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 14:51:50 2001
Comment: Some group kundalini yoga is in order here.

I'll set up the Twister and bring the CheezWiz. Your thanks are welcomed in advance.

WS

Name: beam. . .
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 14:32:37 2001
Comment: So, e-bitch, fleuvog or Mizrahi?

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Tue Feb 27 13:57:58 2001
Comment: ebitch, did you know you have the power to blacklist an entire generation? WOW! You must be more powerful than we ever dreamed. Must be all the Starbucks caffeine. :)

kitten, I sincerely doubt many outside of the Web professions frequent this site, and what makes you so certain we are all of the same generation?

We've got a pretty wide mix of people here, from programmers who have been doing their thing for 22 years, to kids who haven't been around that long, and everyone in between.

I for one, feel that I can speak well enough for myself, and find your attempt to protect us from ourselves every bit as shallow, self-serving, and elitist as you find ebitch's column.

Hows that for irony?

Name: me
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 13:40:41 2001
Comment: yo

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 12:12:31 2001
Comment: barlow? Is that your ex-boyfriend or something?

Name: ebitch
Email: ebitch@netslaves.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 12:04:21 2001
Comment: hi barlow.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 12:03:39 2001
Comment: I was alluding to letting your actions and behavior blacklist an entire generation. I wasn't saying ms. bitch was literally spitting on Vietnam Vets. She's just giving people a reason to dislike our generation all the more.

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Tue Feb 27 12:01:01 2001
Comment: And could you please explain the "spitting on Vietnam vets" bit? Maybe I'm just dense, but I find it a bit of a stretch to link an online journal entry about the life of someone looking for a job to disrespecting people who served in your country's armed forces.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:59:51 2001
Comment: wow, I even got my fake name wrong, and oh, that wasn't me tell you your column sucks, that was one of my loving fans. Or pale bob getting MagicalKittenFrenzy fetish kicks.

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:57:34 2001
Comment: I would not censor kitten, no. Everyone is entitled to make a complete ass of themselves. Isn't that (more or less) what the First Amendment provides?

I just recognize a troll when I see one, and contrary to what Emily may believe, I don't think kitten has any balls. He's not standing up in public. He's screaming from the anonymous crowd.

What kind of courage does that take? None.

Name: MagicalFrenzyKitten
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:56:59 2001
Comment: Notice I never attacked Steve Gilliard's writings because they are funny, even though Steve Gilliard is an overdefensive cock. And if he wants to attack my imaginary failed career as a writer, I must really suck if I'm not up to netslave par because I have seen 16 year old e/n webmasters with better pieces than these journal entries. They may not use bigger words, but they are far less self-indulgent and self-pitying and much funnier. If my posts contain any personal attacks on ebitch it's because her column is all about her, it's not like I can attack her sense of ethics or writing style or even humor, since she has none of the above.

Why am I doing this? On top of being a "horribly failed miserable writer who just wants to write for netslaves" I work in the internet industry professionally. It is people like her these days who are going to give our generation the "spitting on the vietnam vets" image that previous revolutionary generations have had to deal with. Shallow lives and big demands, a misguided feeling of higher purpose, intense materialism and elitist behavior. I can't wait to see the president our generation spawns.

I am going to go sit in hotel lobbies now looking like someone important and thinking about my engraving machine that my boyfriend (He looks sooooo much like Aaron Carter) took when he left me for someone who wasn't letting the burritos go to her hips.


Name: Emily Dresner-Thornber
Email: emily@netslaves.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:44:08 2001
Comment: Thank you, sir. Appreciate the comment.

Name: Emily Dresner-Thornber
Email: emily@netslaves.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:43:23 2001
Comment: It takes three things to stand up in public and make an ass of yourself on a regular basis.

1. An ego the size of Neptune.
2. Balls the size of Neptune.
3. A realization that you can't satisfy all the people all of the time.

I have very strong doubts that Kitten has any personal insecurities, in fact. Why would he? I mean, heck, he came here and posted a fine flame, knowing full well the fanboi brigade would be bringing buckets. Hell, that takes either guts or a lack of complete self-preservation. I have to admire the boy, he has 2 in spades.

This is the chance you take when you publish to a general audience, faceless audience. Welcome to the net, folks. Here's your beanie.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:42:49 2001
Comment: Emily, your "column" sucks too.

Name: beam. . .
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:39:53 2001
Comment: and e-bitch why ought I to keep reading, perhaps I should hope you'll tell me whether you'll tell me if you're a Manolo Blahnik or a Stuart Weitzmann woman?

Name: beam. . .
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:37:02 2001
Comment: so. . . bob. . . would you CENSOR kitten? come on, the truth now. . .

Name: Dave
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:19:43 2001
Comment: Living and working in NYC is an acquired taste. I did it for eight years, and I realized that in all that time I still hadn't acquired it.

So, I've been in an "icy hellhole" as Steve calls it, for just about 17 years. Not Wisconsin, but in the "New Yorker's view of the world," only about a centimeter away on the psychic map. When I go back to visit friends in NYC, I remember what I liked about it, and especially why I left.


Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:15:38 2001
Comment: Naive, I've got a sense of humor. The reason kitten is getting a crappy reception is that he/she/it didn't start out trying to write satire, but started out with personal attacks against ebitch and her writing.

It takes a lot of guts to publish something with your name and contact info on it. I've been there. It is scary, precisely because of sniping little cowards such as kitten. You have people like these who have done very little successfully in their own lives, who have become very jealous of other people encountering some success.

I won't begin to theorize why kitten had to focus on this one column on this one Web site since htere are hundreds of thousands to choose from, but obsession is a strange thing. ebitch obviously struck a nerve with kitten for whatever reason, and that caused kitten to lash out.

What kitten wrote was not satire.

Kitten first authored personal attacks, and eventually morphed into rather bitter parody that only revealed his/her anger. I suspect kitten still hides behind anonymity becuase of deep-seated personal insecurities. Some individual lines were inventive, but were stylistically different enough that I'm fairly certain they were lifted from other writing or conversations the author may have witnessed.

This isn't so much humor, but a glimpse inside the mind of a deeply unhappy person. I kind of feel sorry for kitten, and hope he/she gets through this bad spell.


Name: Emily Dresner-Thornber
Email: emily@netslaves.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 10:55:12 2001
Comment: I found the satire to be highly amusing. I laughed out loud.

One thing I have discovered in the last three years of standing up in front of a large studio audience is that people have the right to throw tomatoes when they're unhappy. You have the right to dodge them, but you cannot take the tomatoes away. The tomatoes are the reader's right inaliable right. It's the give and take of the medium. You get to publish, they get to tell you that you suck. That's why they say, "Never let them see you sweat." Reading the postings here this morning, I'm seeing people sweating buckets. It's almost time to get out the mops.

And sometimes, it's good to ask why they're throwing tomatoes.

Name: Naive
Email: mnaive@hotmail.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 10:21:12 2001
Comment: Sheesh... doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore? I guess you're all too busy wallowing in self-pity. That's too bad, because MagicalKittenFrenzy's satire of this article was actually pretty funny. I sure as hell laughed out loud.

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Tue Feb 27 09:51:07 2001
Comment: Steve, you aren't mad at the REST of us no-talent writers, are ya?

:)

Name:
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 09:40:29 2001
Comment: ahhh. . . the psycho sexual dynamic of unemployment. . .

Name: beam. . .
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 08:46:20 2001
Comment: . . .would you like the 5 minute arguement or would you like the full half hour?

Name: steve gilliard
Email: sgilliard@netslaves.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 08:08:41 2001
Comment: Does this look like Slashdot or FC to you?

No? Well Kittypoo, we know you want to be a writer, and it's a goal which eludes you. You're just super, duper jealous and wish we ran your journal instead. I mean if I lived in Wisconsin, in some icy hellhole, I'd be envious of someone living in New York.

Come on, if you want to write for us, just ask. We know you do. We know you're just another frustrated writer who can't hack it, can't get paid, can't be part of anything except some dumb assed blog, right?

We understand your pain, and your envy. We know this is the only way you can deal with your inability to be a successful writer at any level.

Of course, you're not fit to change ebitch's tampons with your teeth, but that's another story.

If you keep working, maybe one day, you might make it into middle management and actually do something with your life. You might even get punished in the local pennysaver.

But we understand, we really do. We know what a burden it is to be without talent. What a sad, sad thing that must be. Please do share.

Thanks.

Name: Carl Guderian
Email: carlg@vermilion-sands.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 07:22:43 2001
Comment: Uh, Mr. Frenzy. If you don't have a sense of humor, you shouldn't try to be funny.

Ebitch, I dunno about the objection to getting in a 9am, but that potential job obviously redlined your BS detector, and rightly so. Those antics are a sign of much deeper corporate cheerleading culture.

Back in the day, I saw an ad for a job selling solar heating installations, on the phone. When I got there I learned it was door-to-door (!), we only set up appointments, in hopes of avoiding neighborhood anti-soliciting laws (!!), and the pay was commission-only (!!!).

I walked. If I'd taken the job, I'd've had to go to a bus station and give away free blowjobs to regain my self-respect. As it turned out, I worked in a record shop near NASA, my first target, and pestered customers who were aerospace workers (when they wrote checks I scanned the telephone exchange number) for contacts inside. After 6 months I was in!

It's not easy to take the first job that comes along. You spend all your time trying to make it through your probationary period and don't have much time to look for a better job. If you and the interviewer haven't already figured out already that you're not Ramjac Inc. material, you won't last long anyway and you'll have to explain a 2- or 3-month job (or gap) on your resume. That's opportunity cost for you. If the wolf is any distance from your door, it's better to hold out for better job.

Name: Got Zen?
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 01:50:22 2001
Comment: Glad to hear that you finished Zen. Now you got another fourty years to read Lila : an Inquiry into Moral .

(Hey, it only took the guy 25 years in between to write it! And more sex!)

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 01:39:07 2001
Comment: 'asides sassy, I've probably made more people here laugh then you trite shit ever did. Well maybe the first 4 installments I didn't read were pure gold and I just picked up the arrogant non-joke ones that made me want to roll down a cliff.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 01:37:37 2001
Comment: I have no point. I just enjoy the hate part. Any steps nearby I can push you down missy?

Name: mahatma bitch
Email: ebitch@netslaves.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 01:19:18 2001
Comment: i would prefer to inspire positive feelings, but all this rage is kind of interesting. you hate it but you can't stop reading. you can't stop coming back and thinking of clever ways to make your point, whatever that is.

Name: DisguisedMagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 00:44:48 2001
Comment: I mean a crime juicer sir.

Name: ego says hello
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 00:28:07 2001
Comment: do you mean a crime juicer or a lime juicer?

Name: DisguisedMagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Tue Feb 27 00:09:19 2001
Comment: Hey Kitten:

wow you are a dick, I have to blindly defend ebitch because netslaves publishes her and she is on NPR! How many people do you know that have their voice broadcast on NPR MagicalKittenFrenzy? I bet you don't even own a crime juicer, and if you did I bet you don't run a web site. Because you have no testicles because you aren't publishing your mom's home phone number so I can call her at 4AM. You are a coward and a cheat and don't know what you're talking about.

ebitch rulez, MagicalKittenFrenzy droolz!


Name: bill
Email: bill@netslaves.com
Date: Mon Feb 26 23:58:39 2001
Comment: OK, Kitten:

From now on, we're going to ignore your posts. Have fun talking to yourself.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email: letsgetthewholeteam@netslaves.cominvolvedinsolvingthecase
Date: Mon Feb 26 23:54:20 2001
Comment: I love what's happening over there, thank you for giving me a forum in which I can publish my journal...one entry at a time...corresponding shockingly with each release by the cleverly named ebitch.

But you don't have to read my journal entries if you don't want to.

Name: bill
Email: bill@netslaves.com
Date: Mon Feb 26 23:49:59 2001
Comment: Kitten,

If you don't like what's happening over here, what's the sense in sticking around?

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Mon Feb 26 23:40:10 2001
Comment: oh and I do it everyday, only it isn't gay self-indulgent journal funcakes, it's satire. And no, I'm not giving you my URL so that you guys can pretend to be me and troll my forums.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email: yourmom@isgoodinbed.com
Date: Mon Feb 26 23:34:20 2001
Comment: Fantastic, here is my home address and phone number so you silly shits can tell me how good my journal is:

Monty Alestair
345 Oak Terrace
Newark, WI 33452

or call me:

(425)877-2011, I love to chat about my forum posts commenting on journal entries.

fag.

Name: steve gilliard
Email: sgilliard@netslaves.com
Date: Mon Feb 26 23:33:34 2001
Comment: Kitty,

If it was so easy, you'd be doing it. The trick is doing it consistantly. You want to read about real egotists, look at my story on Welivein public.

Name: monty
Email: montyphan@hotmail.com
Date: Mon Feb 26 23:27:01 2001
Comment: magicalkitten,

the difference is that ebitch at least includes an email address (it's even valid). the link to her npr commentary includes her being referred to by name, although the host mispronounced it. she is, therefore, identifiable. you, by choosing to take advantage of the wonderful anonymity provided by the internet, are not. taking responsibility for one's words is a sign of maturity, not to mention credibility. or, to use a phrase from one of your prior posts, "aren't you an adult?"

and if you're suggesting that we no longer read your posts, i think that's a fine idea.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Mon Feb 26 22:46:40 2001
Comment: what are you talking about? That is my journal, if you don't like it don't read it.

Sigh, god I'm the greatest!

Name: bob
Email: pale_13@usa.net
Date: Mon Feb 26 22:35:44 2001
Comment: Having a problem with the concept of _Journal_ kids? If ya don't like it, don't read it.

Sheesh...

Name: rob
Email:
Date: Mon Feb 26 21:50:25 2001
Comment: MagicalKitten summed it up for me. What a load of self-important BS.

Name: MagicalKittenFrenzy
Email:
Date: Mon Feb 26 20:22:31 2001
Comment: Dear Egotism Stimulator,

I am sitting in the lobby of Les Ritz Hotel where my friend is having an interview, I was nearby recording my stellar NPR commentary, you know the one where they use all the background sound to make it seem like I am in the real world instead of some imaginary urban playland for the pretentious wealthy.

I noticed something about the internet now that I don't have a high-paying web marketing job where I use words like paradigm and datapulse that I read in my L. Ron Hubbard books. The internet always has these domain names that sound like cheap foreign cars like:
toyota
honda
ford
plymouth
daimler-chrysler

If you send me money so that I can be sterilized on paypal I will even come up with some more and use racist terms I learned from my father, who belonged to a secret society like the Free Masons, only not the Free Masons, they are so passe.

I read a book, I started it three years ago, it somehow relates to my "article" but I am incapable of making literary connections.
It was by Harry Potter.

DID I MENTION NPR? I WAS ON NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO, PROBABLY ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I WAS ALSO ON NPR. I LIKE NPR, I WAS ON IT. MY VOICE IS BEING HEARD BY NEARLY A HUNDRED COMMUTERS IN AM CHRISTIAN RADIO BLACKOUT ZONES.

Take me to lunch or dinner, because I will suck parts of your body for food. I may be rich and jobless, but that doesn't mean I won't put out for dinner at Dorsea.

note to self: I love you, congratulations on being you, you rule.

I received a hot-and-saucy rejection email from a company i interviewed with (I am so self-effacing, look, lower case "i", I am hip) last week. just as well:

(1)one of the women I met did not lay a path of rose petals before my feet (2)one of the guys who interviewed me was not amused by my elitist comments (3)when you close a deal, you are required to buy beer for everyone. i don't drink, and i am not interested in such human activities. is that supposed to beat sipping 500 dollar cognac from the hollowed skull of an indonesian Nike child-laborer?
(5)location: a gloomy street with a couple of skanky-ass delis run by filthy jews and not a stabucks for blocks.
(6)i wasn't interested in being there at nine a.m. because I am still having my skin re-laminated by my Turkish handmaiden at that hour.