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[02:16:02]<bee2b>I want a site designed with a look very similar to Vimeo.com. Should I use a base theme or start from scratch?
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[05:53:32]<dream>I need help in styling my menu block
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[06:37:05]<Tigeda>dream: what are you trying to do?
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[06:39:06]<Aurorus>Tigeda: I don't have the time now (have been working with dream for a while now). He needs help styling a Drupal ul li menu list into horizontal tabs
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[06:40:31]<Tigeda>Ok well if he comes back I can probably give him some help?
[06:42:21]<dream>Hi Tigeda ...
[06:42:31]<dream>just saw ur msges
[06:43:12]<dream>Im trying to customize my navigation set in menu block
[06:43:41]<Tigeda>so do you need some help styling them?
[06:44:02]<dream>yes Tigeda will really apprecite if you can
[06:44:12]<dream>its been a while am trying to do this
[06:44:22]<Tigeda>are you using a sub theme?
[06:44:52]<dream>yes
[06:44:56]<dream>Zen subtheme
[06:44:59]<Tigeda>is the site online by any chance
[06:45:17]<dream>yes am PMing you the site
[06:46:03]<dream>can u chk thst
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[08:53:11]<bukem>thought you all might like this http://www.css3maker.com/
[08:55:10]<Tigeda>nice!
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[08:59:50]<Tigeda>themes?
[08:59:50]<Druplicon>themes are distributed at http://drupal.org/project/themes
[08:59:54]<Tigeda>theming?
[08:59:54]<Druplicon>theming is http://drupal.org/theme-guide AND #drupal-themes - It's Alive!
[09:00:00]<Tigeda>sub-theming?
[09:00:05]<Tigeda>sub-theme?
[09:00:22]<Tigeda>dream: theming?
[09:01:18]<dream>cool...Thanks a tonn Tigeda !
[09:01:32]<Tigeda>no worries, got to go now! cheers
[09:01:33]<dream>anything specific for css ?
[09:01:37]<dream>ok bbye
[09:01:38]<Tigeda>ahh for css
[09:01:49]<Tigeda>google: stu nicolls css play
[09:01:51]<Tigeda>um
[09:01:55]<Tigeda>css zen garden
[09:01:57]<Tigeda>css tuts
[09:01:58]<dream>ok
[09:02:24]<dream>:)
[09:02:33]<dream>btw what time is it for u ..
[09:02:51]<Tigeda>7:02PM
[09:03:00]<dream>ok
[09:03:01]<Tigeda>aust est
[09:03:02]<dream>u in japan
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[09:03:06]<dream>okay
[09:03:07]<Tigeda>australia
[09:03:11]<dream>Aus
[09:03:16]<Tigeda>where are you?
[09:03:19]<dream>Good Night !
[09:03:19]<Druplicon>you too dream!
[09:03:26]<dream>me in japan
[09:03:39]<dream>aah druplicon replied :)
[09:03:58]<Tigeda>good luck with the rest of the site.
[09:04:03]<dream>yeh
[09:04:08]<dream>thanks a lot !
[09:04:53]<Tigeda>no worries
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[09:33:04]<falkendk>Hi, is someone how can refer me to a theme function where i can add a class to a menu item if it has any children?
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[09:38:41]<sign>falkendk: theme_menu_item might help
[09:39:47]<falkendk>sign: Thank you i will try and have a look :)
[09:40:28]<seutje>doesn't it already add "leaf" to items with no children?
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[12:47:49]<eigentor>Hm I am thinking about trying out typekit. But the non anti-aliased rendering is ugly
[12:47:57]<eigentor>I wonder if that is specific to Windows 7
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[12:48:25]<eigentor>or what systems use anti-aliasing by default and which don't
[12:48:45]<eigentor>e.g. http://steinway.com/
[12:49:00]<eigentor>this main headline would be beautiful... If it was anti-aliased
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[14:07:38]<gooddesignusa>johnvsc: i tried those 2 things on that patch file but it didn't help :(
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[14:17:22]<dream>Tigeda: hello ..
[14:19:17]<jonthomas83>anyone made a sub-theme for ninesixty http://drupal.org/project/ninesixty?
[14:19:25]<johnvsc>:(
[14:19:31]<johnvsc>oh well
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[14:22:33]<dream>my site displays fine on IE 8 but nt on IE 7 ..what can i do /
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[14:24:20]<gooddesignusa>start trying to fix it ;)
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[14:24:31]<gooddesignusa>start throwing zoom:1; in your ie7.css file
[14:27:49]<johnvsc>and overflow:hidden;
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[14:31:25]<dream>Johnvsc a diff css for this ?
[14:31:43]<johnvsc>?
[14:32:07]<dream>sorry i thought its ans to my ques
[14:32:31]<johnvsc>dream: there are alot of things that happen with IE's
[14:32:47]<johnvsc>one of the major things is that IE doesn't redraw things / render things correctly
[14:33:09]<johnvsc>so when you want it ti re-render you put a zoom or a overflow <- explicit in the CSS
[14:33:28]<johnvsc>that way - the browser re-renders it and that usual will fix a bug
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[14:33:48]<johnvsc>but if you are doing layout's with margins and padding -> you are gonna have a hella time
[14:34:18]<johnvsc>because ie has a different set of rules for translating the pixlel widths and lengths for margins and paddings
[14:34:36]<johnvsc>the top / left values are cross browser compatible, though
[14:37:23]<dream>looks a bit confusing johnvsc
[14:37:36]<johnvsc>theming is
[14:37:59]<johnvsc>pple thing that design is fun and happy -> but it really ain't . it is alot of hard work
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[14:38:55]<dream>i know !
[14:39:56]<dream>johnvsc, i have to make separate file for ie7.css ?
[14:40:07]<johnvsc>you could
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[14:40:30]<johnvsc>my "holy grail" is to build a theme that doesn't need a special seperate css
[14:40:31]<dream>is there some eg you can ditrect me to ?
[14:40:51]<dream>it doesnt even displays well on chromr
[14:40:53]<dream>chrome
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[15:00:57]<adrinux>dream which browser did you use when developing your theme?
[15:01:09]<dream>adrinux, mozilla
[15:01:18]<adrinux>good :)
[15:01:30]<dream>though it looks fine on IE 8 as well
[15:01:39]<dream>but not on IE 7 and chrome
[15:01:50]<dream>:(
[15:01:52]<adrinux>yeah, IE8 is not too shabby
[15:02:00]<adrinux>what goes wrong on chrome?
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[15:03:33]<dream>i have navigation menu on my page
[15:03:38]<dream>have css for it
[15:03:50]<dream>it seems it doesnt takes css from there
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[15:04:07]<dream>it just prints the list ..no themeing
[15:04:26]<adrinux>dream: there is no good way to target chrome, so you'll need to fix your css to work on that.
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[15:04:53]<adrinux>hard to help without seeing the site
[15:04:59]<dream>ok
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[15:05:03]<dream>what abt IE 7 ?
[15:05:25]<adrinux>as johnvsc you can use conditional stylesheets to target IE
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[15:06:10]<adrinux>how is the menu css included?
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[15:07:01]<dream>i have one import.css
[15:07:06]<dream>in which i include all the css
[15:07:21]<dream>adrinux, i coudnt get much before what needs to be done
[15:07:28]<dream>can you pls explain
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[15:08:55]<adrinux>dream are you sure chrome isn't just caching an old version of the page? tried clearing browser cache...and you have drupal's css compressor turned off right?
[15:10:11]<dream>yes m sure abt that
[15:10:24]<dream>compressor ? in performance page ?
[15:10:29]<adrinux>yep
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[15:13:47]<dream>yes thats off
[15:13:51]<dream>adrinux,
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[15:22:08]<adrinux>ever used chromes web inspector dream?
[15:24:05]<adrinux>dream: right click on your troublesome menu in chrome and choose 'inspect element'
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[15:30:04]<dream>ok adrinux but its nt displayingon IE 7 as well
[15:30:08]<dream>any help on that ?
[15:30:24]<adrinux>that might be for different reasons
[15:30:30]<dream>ok
[15:30:39]<dream>i did inspect region
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[15:31:00]<dream>how to i chk if my navmenu.css is being included ?
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[15:31:26]<adrinux>the resources tab of the inspector
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[15:32:03]<adrinux>or just be looking to see if one of your styles is visible for a menu element in the list of styles on the right
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[15:32:21]<adrinux>a lot like firebug that bit :)
[15:33:09]<dream>i dont see that css being included
[15:33:18]<dream>though am very new to firebug
[15:33:28]<dream>but yes there is a list of css files on right
[15:33:35]<dream>with its element list
[15:33:55]<dream>it has some reset.css and master.css
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[15:34:20]<adrinux>no import.css?
[15:35:13]<dream>no icant see though i see master.css which is being imported in import.css
[15:35:31]<adrinux>if you view source (under view > developer in chrome) is the import.css listed in the head section of the page?
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[15:36:39]<dream>adrinux, i dont use chrome ..cn u tell me wher view ?
[15:37:24]<dream>ok got it
[15:37:31]<dream>managed it
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[15:38:00]<dream>yes import.css is there in header
[15:39:24]<adrinux>right. so it's definitely added.
[15:39:53]<dream>hm i cant see navmenu ...if it is why there is no style for the menus
[15:40:15]<adrinux>dream, so take a look at the resources tab in the inspector. you should be able to find your css file in the list on the left...
[15:40:28]<adrinux>oh, wait. you don't even have the menu?
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[15:40:48]<dream>no ihave the list of primary menu
[15:40:53]<dream>but not style for it
[15:41:31]<dream>and did you said find css file in list on LEFT ?
[15:41:49]<adrinux>ok, then as I said you can find the css file in the inspector and look at the contents of the css - make sure it's got all the rules it's supposed to have
[15:42:11]<adrinux>yeah, under the resources tab, it lists all files used to build the page
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[15:42:31]<dream>even css ?
[15:42:37]<dream>and the bottom ...
[15:42:43]<adrinux>in fact you can restirct it to just stylesheets
[15:42:50]<dream>how ?
[15:42:53]<dream>can i
[15:43:31]<adrinux>where it says 'stylesheets' just under 'Resources'
[15:44:06]<dream>i cant see anything in resources
[15:44:25]<adrinux>not even a button to enable resource tracking?
[15:44:43]<dream>ok yes i just enabled it
[15:44:54]<dream>i can see stylesheets
[15:45:29]<dream>hmm
[15:45:39]<dream>there is no navmenu.css file !
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[15:46:21]<adrinux>oh, so it's not in import.css, import.css just @imports the navmenu.css ?
[15:46:59]<dream>adrinux, can you tell me what is this for /* IE hide */ ?
[15:47:09]<dream>under ..@import 'reset.css' /* IE hide */;
[15:47:09]<dream>@import 'master.css' /* IE hide */;
[15:48:58]<adrinux>well, those are css comments...maybe exploiting an IE parsing bug
[15:49:24]<adrinux>which theme is this?
[15:49:35]<dream>coz i thought they r just comments and not included infrontof new includes
[15:49:49]<dream>and itdidnt displayed
[15:49:57]<dream>now i tried puttingthat
[15:50:04]<dream>it shows on chrome
[15:50:08]<dream>the menu bars
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[15:50:33]<adrinux>so what did you have before, in the at import line?
[15:50:37]<dream>strange !
[15:50:37]<Druplicon>strange is http://drupal.org/node/239221
[15:50:55]<dream>i just had @import 'navmenu.css' ;
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[15:51:03]<dream>added that comment
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[15:51:37]<adrinux>that's crazy. take the comment away again
[15:51:42]<adrinux>see what happens
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