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[00:00:14]<toyo|desk>no it dosent look like there is any sort of toggle for ignore user
[00:00:15]<toyo|desk>:/
[00:01:07]<prescriptor>i have a brand new drupal install with the following two modifications: 1) enabled the blog module, 2) added a user role called blog_user that has only check boxes for create/edit/delete of blog checked. When I create a new "blog_user", the menu on the side doesn't show Create Content > Blog ... how can i fix this?
[00:01:07]<betz>and on the permissions page?
[00:01:49]<toyo|desk>http://drupal.org/node/265757
[00:01:49]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/265757 => Setting for just nodes or comments (or both) => Ignore User, User interface, normal, active, 1 IRC mention
[00:02:01]<prescriptor>nvmd, found that "access comment" is also needed
[00:02:12]<toyo|desk>looks like the module creator has no intention of adding new features
[00:02:14]<toyo|desk>:/
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[00:05:20]<betz>anyone knows how to change the title of a field dynamically? I created a new views-view-table--contenttypename.tpl.php, but the title there isn't the right one. I find how to theme all fields etc, but not the title of the view itself. I want to write some php to dynamically create the titles.
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[00:06:16]<toyo|desk>betz, I think there is a module for auto title generation
[00:06:36]<betz>no it's for a view, not a node
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[00:07:00]<toyo|desk>oh
[00:07:02]<toyo|desk>sorry
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[00:07:12]<toyo|desk>but yeah auto node title is what I was thinking of
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[00:10:54]<ultra_>hey, anyone know how I can display a custom output page for a content type made in cck?
[00:12:02]<betz>ultra_: you know views?
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[00:12:40]<ultra_>betz: yes, I need something views can't do.
[00:12:51]<ultra_>or atleast, that views is being a bitch to do...
[00:12:57]<betz>what's that
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[00:14:50]<ultra_>ok, well, here's the situation, I'm making a movie site with links to stuff on the movies, people can submit links by creating link content, right now you have to click submit links, then enter the movie and everything there, on each movie page, I want to have a link to the create page already filled in with that movie, I can do this using prepopulate, but I can't make views output the fucking link right, it U
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[00:15:22]<ultra_>betz: I'm using views attach to put the view at the bottom of the movie page
[00:15:40]<ultra_>that being the link to submit links ;)
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[00:17:02]<pteague>well, at least i'm getting somewhere with views, even if it's nowhere
[00:17:05]<betz>so you have a node with a view attached to it, and that view only shows you a link to a form somewhere
[00:17:05]<ultra_>betz: any idea how I can prevent it from urlencoding my link? if I could just fix this one thing...
[00:17:19]<ultra_>betz: yes :P
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[00:17:36]<toyo|desk>ok so if I were to edit(hack) a module so that it only displayed its link on a particular content type how would I do that?
[00:17:41]<ultra_>betz: I'm using views attach to attach a view which will show the link... I couldn't think of another way to do it
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[00:17:50]<betz>panels?
[00:17:50]<Druplicon>Panels is the best thing to come along since sliced bread. Panels is at http://drupal.org/project/panels
[00:18:02]<ultra_>betz: panels?
[00:18:10]<ultra_>alright... I will definately look at that...
[00:18:13]<ultra_>thank you...
[00:18:13]<betz>Panels is the best thing to come along since sliced bread
[00:18:17]<betz>;)
[00:18:17]<ultra_>lol :p
[00:18:22]<pteague>what state is panels3 in?
[00:18:36]<betz>i'm using it on a production server :)
[00:18:40]<ultra_>hopefully this will feel less like a stupid hack than using views to print 1 line of text does :p
[00:19:10]<pteague>k
[00:19:14]<ultra_>which version would you recommend I install, drupal 6
[00:19:18]<betz>ultra_: yeah, you can put anything in a panel, nodes, custom text
[00:19:22]<ultra_>panels 3 it is then?
[00:19:36]<betz>yeah
[00:19:45]<ultra_>I think I may have other uses for this module too... thanks... is there a list of all the awesome drupal modules somewhere...
[00:20:12]<betz>http://drupal.org/project/Modules
[00:20:16]<betz>:)
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[00:20:29]<betz>or drupalmodules.com
[00:20:41]<pteague>maybe my problem is that i'm using acquia... that's the only thing i can think of because i know i've overridden a specific vocabulary term's listing pages before, but i'm being completely unsuccessful with this site
[00:21:20]<ultra_>betz: alright, well, thanks for everything, I'll tell ya if this does what I need it to :)
[00:22:27]<ultra_>betz: oh, one more thing maybe you can recommend a module for... i need to make it so that you can click a link and it'll send an email to the site's administrator saying one of the links is dead, is there some sort of way I can do this easily?
[00:22:30]<betz>no one knows where to change the title of a view?
[00:22:58]<betz>ultra_: i would do this with rules
[00:23:01]<betz>rules?
[00:23:01]<Druplicon>rules is an engine for higher levels of intelligence used for building real-time applications. It has powerful logic capabilities to perform complicated procedures that help site builders automate everything! Rules can be found at http://drupal.org/project/rules
[00:23:17]<ultra_>cool, thanks, I'll check it out.
[00:23:25]<pteague>are you just trying to change the title of the view's page or something else?
[00:23:32]<betz>yeah
[00:23:53]<BorisBarowski>betz, just go in views, select a display and change the title under "basic settings"
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[00:24:03]<pteague>what he said
[00:24:08]<betz>hey BorisBarowski
[00:24:08]<BorisBarowski>betz, or what do you mean ? :)
[00:24:11]<BorisBarowski>hey:)
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[00:25:03]<betz>to change it from the php level. I created a view template for this contenttype for the display and tyle output. But there the title isn't rendered
[00:26:25]<BorisBarowski>not sure what exactly you're trying to do, but then again it's late so i'm on low brain activity atm :p
[00:26:28]<betz>so with an argument i get a node refernce id. I want to set the title of that node refernce id as the views id. I can set the argument (nid) itself, but i want to set the title
[00:27:01]<betz>yeah, i understand you completelly :)
[00:27:41]<BorisBarowski>so you have a view with an argument, and want to use the title of the referenced node as the views title ?
[00:27:56]<ultra_>drupal has all the awesome modules
[00:28:07]<ultra_>you never have to code anything now, just add more modules :P
[00:28:07]<betz>BorisBarowski: yep
[00:28:16]<ultra_>I'm at 19 so far :)
[00:28:33]<betz>ultra_: there will always be a moment that you want to customize something
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[00:28:59]<betz>but there are many modules indeed :)
[00:29:11]<BorisBarowski>ultra, i'm waaaay past 19 modules on my current site :) or modules you coded ? :p
[00:29:31]<BorisBarowski>betz, hack the template to diplay a certain field as the title ?
[00:29:46]<BorisBarowski>i did it when i needed longer node titles in D5
[00:30:15]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: no, that's 100% downloaded modules :p
[00:30:42]<ultra_>betz: yeah, I had to make cck it not clean the text for one of my fields... that's the only time I've had to touch code for this site.
[00:31:00]<ultra_>I'll probably have to do some more once we get the design in
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[00:31:20]<BorisBarowski>ultra_, currently at 29 and about 3/4 of the functionality is there
[00:31:31]<konaseema>any module similar to galleria for drupal 5?
[00:31:38]* betz has a look
[00:31:42]<konaseema>http://drupal.org/project/galleria
[00:31:51]<betz>45 modules :)
[00:32:01]<betz>ans also not finished
[00:32:01]<ultra_>lol
[00:32:35]<ultra_>well, i've got most of the backend stuff build for my site, I'll probably need some more blocks and stuff for the UI
[00:32:44]<ultra_>should be fun I'm sure ;)
[00:33:00]<ultra_>maybe some panels/views tricks will let me do the homepage nicely... we'll see...
[00:33:26]<betz>konaseema: i wlways build a image gallery with good old cck and views
[00:33:34]<betz>*always
[00:33:51]<betz>ultra_: i'm sure you will
[00:33:59]<betz>i love panels
[00:34:01]<BorisBarowski>well, CCK, extra CCK fields, views, VBO, rules, token, og, filefield, date are about the standard modules every site propably needs
[00:34:22]<BorisBarowski>only learning to work again with panels, seems nice tho
[00:34:25]<betz>imagecache, admin_menu
[00:34:36]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: I'll keep that list ;)
[00:34:39]<BorisBarowski>true, admin_menu is a timesaver
[00:34:50]<ultra_>I haven't needed organic groups for my site yet, but I'm using most of the others there
[00:35:00]<betz>BorisBarowski: you still use d5?
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[00:35:07]<konaseema>betz, isn't it a lot of work to have the functionality we need? because i also need jCarousel integration
[00:35:31]<BorisBarowski>well, on a site that's on the backburner for now, haven't had time to upgrade that
[00:35:42]<betz>viewscarousel?
[00:35:52]<BorisBarowski>everything new i make is in D6 offcourse
[00:36:28]<betz>druplicon: viewscarousel is This module is a Views plugin that allows you to output posts as a jQuery-based carousel. It is based on the jCarousel jQuery plugin. Have a look at http://drupal.org/project/viewscarousel
[00:36:28]<Druplicon>betz: Okay.
[00:36:37]<betz>viewscarousel?
[00:36:37]<Druplicon>viewscarousel is This module is a Views plugin that allows you to output posts as a jQuery-based carousel. It is based on the jCarousel jQuery plugin. Have a look at http://drupal.org/project/viewscarousel
[00:36:57]<BorisBarowski>druplicon: viewscarousel is <reply>This module is a Views plugin that allows you to output posts as a jQuery-based carousel. It is based on the jCarousel jQuery plugin. Have a look at http://drupal.org/project/viewscarousel
[00:36:57]<Druplicon>BorisBarowski: Okay.
[00:36:57]<konaseema>http://drupal.org/project/viewscarousel
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[00:37:14]<BorisBarowski>viewscarousel?
[00:37:14]<Druplicon>This module is a Views plugin that allows you to output posts as a jQuery-based carousel. It is based on the jCarousel jQuery plugin. Have a look at http://drupal.org/project/viewscarousel
[00:37:33]<konaseema>all are dev. phase.. is that mean they are working.. also no sample there
[00:37:33]<BorisBarowski>see, better this wat betz ;)
[00:37:39]<BorisBarowski>way?*
[00:38:19]<betz>aha indeed
[00:38:26]<betz>botsnack!
[00:38:26]<Druplicon>mMmmMMm... botsnack
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[00:39:23]<betz>so konaseema, have a look at that viewscarousel. I'm sure you will love it
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[00:39:46]<konaseema>betz, it doesn't say anything about jCarousel
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[00:40:50]<betz>konaseema: http://mustardseedmedia.com/podcast/episode20
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[00:44:45]<BorisBarowski>betz, old and in D5/V1.6 but maybe a clue
[00:44:46]<BorisBarowski>http://chirale.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/set-views-title-dynamically-for-...
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[00:49:29]<ultra_>betz: uhhm, so, how exactly am I supposed to use panels to add a link to the bottom of the page?
[00:50:11]<betz>a link to the bottom or ont the bottom?
[00:50:29]<konaseema>anyone know about openresort module?
[00:50:43]<konaseema>i want to see when will the release 6 will be released
[00:50:50]<ultra_>betz: I need to add a link to go to the add links page somewhere on the page
[00:51:06]<ultra_>:P
[00:51:25]<betz>ah so it's just an anchor?
[00:51:34]<betz>a link to an anchor?
[00:52:00]<ultra_>it just links to the create content page for links and passes it the node id of the current node
[00:52:53]<BorisBarowski>nodereference_url?
[00:53:13]<betz>ultra_: if you created a custom panel for that node, you can set what content to show on that panel. Add a custom text and set the text as php filter
[00:53:32]<BorisBarowski>http://www.lullabot.com/articles/photo-galleries-views-attach (just the first portion)
[00:53:49]<BorisBarowski>http://drupal.org/project/nodereference_url
[00:54:39]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: that looks easy. I'll try that. :P
[00:54:40]<betz>ah yeah, ultra_ the above link is for you
[00:54:50]<betz>indeed
[00:55:19]<ultra_>though I'll definately check panels for the homepage and maybe I'll want to redo the other pages... but this would probably be helpful for this
[00:56:01]<ultra_>woohoo, I just broke 20 modules... oh, and I'm only counting .tar.gz files in my modules directory, so...
[00:56:23]<betz>??
[00:56:23]<Druplicon>? are you there
[00:56:36]<betz>peek a boo
[00:56:46]<BorisBarowski>i used it to add a "Add Result" link to a contest-content type
[00:56:57]<BorisBarowski>this way they are automatically linked
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[00:57:11]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: that sounds exactly like what I want
[00:57:12]<ultra_>thanks
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[00:57:40]<BorisBarowski>and attached a views (views_attach) to the contest-content type to get all results associated with that contest
[00:57:50]<BorisBarowski>it's a great screencast :)
[00:58:12]<betz>lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG_ss5QT03Y
[00:58:24]<betz>' i got drupal'
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[01:00:09]<ultra_>betz: rofl
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[01:01:09]<BorisBarowski>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ-s3DRZJKY sung by a lullabot if i'm not mistaken ;)
[01:02:04]<betz>yeah that's the old drupal song, made by jeff robins. But he made a remix not longtime ago
[01:02:11]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: you just made my firefox crash, nice job :P
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[01:02:33]<BorisBarowski>my firefox is stronger than your firefox :p
[01:03:35]<betz>http://www.ondernemeringent.be/uploaded_images/2104203974_2685116203-740...
[01:04:18]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: yeah, I dunno why my firefox fails so much, I blame arch linux... my gentoo was much more stable... that is... until I tried to update it last time and basically offed it.
[01:04:41]<BorisBarowski>i run windows, who's more stable now ? :p
[01:04:51]<ultra_>lol :P apparently your FF build is better than mine atleast :P
[01:05:11]<ultra_>there should be a decent x64 firefox build for windows
[01:06:43]<ultra_>damnit, I have that i got drupal song in my head now >.< it's distracting me from developing :P
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[01:07:12]<BorisBarowski>betz, pointy ^^
[01:07:21]<betz>lol
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[01:10:05]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: hey, so, about this nodereference_url, how exactly do I use it? >.>
[01:10:20]<ultra_>... nevermind, i'll rtfm
[01:10:29]<BorisBarowski>watch the screencast
[01:10:38]<BorisBarowski>watch it first, then work alongside
[01:10:40]<ultra_>got a link?
[01:10:46]<BorisBarowski>http://www.lullabot.com/articles/photo-galleries-views-attach (just the first portion)
[01:10:53]<ultra_>alright, cool
[01:12:19]<ultra_>... why the hell does everyone do their screencasts on macs... seriously, everything "web 2.0
[01:12:28]<ultra_>always has a screencast, and it's always on a mac.
[01:12:43]<betz>.mov file?
[01:12:50]<ultra_>even sql on rails :P
[01:13:02]<ultra_>check it: http://www2.sqlonrails.org/
[01:15:03]<BorisBarowski>probably a jobs conspiracy
[01:15:07]<BorisBarowski>with the CIA offcourse
[01:15:20]<betz>lol
[01:15:58]<ultra_>sounds like it :)
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[01:18:19]<okmi>anyone use the feedbacl module in D6?
[01:18:36]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: cool screencast by the way :)
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[01:19:50]<BorisBarowski>glad you like it, i hope it's what you need :)
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[01:23:25]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: yeah, great, I got it all working now :) can I use panels with this? I think I want redesign the Movie display page using panels
[01:24:10]<BorisBarowski>probably, you might not need views_attach then
[01:24:16]<BorisBarowski>haven't tried it tho
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[01:24:37]<BorisBarowski>but nodereference_url worked out great for me, a nice hidden gem:D
[01:24:41]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: alright, I'm gonna watch through the rest of your screencast, then try it out
[01:25:07]<BorisBarowski>i'll be here for maybe 10 more minutes, ask if you have any questions :)
[01:26:51]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: ZOMFG, it does return path, this is exactly what I was looking for :D
[01:27:04]<BorisBarowski>:D
[01:27:34]<ultra_>I love this module :)
[01:28:36]<ultra_>wait, I have no return path settings in mine :(
[01:28:50]<BorisBarowski>i do in mine
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[01:28:54]<BorisBarowski>pretty sure they are there
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[01:29:51]<BorisBarowski>hmm, scratch that, let me check
[01:30:45]<ultra_>http://imagebin.ca/view/2Zct45.html
[01:30:52]<ultra_>there's a screencap, you tell me...
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[01:32:30]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: I dunno, your screencast shows them there.... but I don't see them, do I neeed something else?
[01:32:59]<ultra_>BorisBarowski_: mine just looks like : http://imagebin.ca/view/2Zct45.html
[01:33:20]<BorisBarowski_>sec
[01:35:03]<ultra_>ok
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[01:38:30]<BorisBarowski_>checking issues queue etc
[01:39:21]<ultra_>BorisBarowski_: damn, did they take it out? :(
[01:40:17]<ultra_>or do I need a dev version or something for that?
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[01:43:51]<BorisBarowski_>ultra_, you are right. it's not standard, but I was apparently to absent-minded to notice that
[01:43:54]<BorisBarowski_>more info on http://drupal.org/node/477598
[01:43:55]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/477598 => Allow nodereference_url links to set destination param => Node Reference URL Widget, Code, normal, reviewed & tested by the community, 1 IRC mention
[01:44:10]<ultra_>BorisBarowski_: alright, can I get it? I'd kill for that
[01:44:58]<ultra_>just gotta do a little patch I guess, fair enough
[01:45:14]<BorisBarowski_>depends, you know how to patch ? :)
[01:45:46]<ultra_> curl http://drupal.org/files/issues/destination_10.patch | patch -p0
[01:45:47]<ultra_>;)
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[01:46:23]<ultra_>yes, done :) now, it patched the install file too... does that mean I have to uninstall and reinstall it?
[01:46:47]<BorisBarowski_>honestly, no idea
[01:47:18]<ultra_>uninstalling won't delete the folder, right?
[01:47:22]<BorisBarowski_>maybe just run update.php
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[01:48:27]<ultra_>BorisBarowski_: heh, didn't do anything and it looks like it's working ;)
[01:48:42]<BorisBarowski_>run update.php just in case ;)
[01:49:21]<ultra_>ok
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[01:50:51]<ultra_>BorisBarowski_: well, it executed no queries, but yeah, they should merge that patch in, it's excellent! :)
[01:51:07]<ultra_>BorisBarowski: and thanks a lot, you've made my life a lot easier
[01:51:26]<BorisBarowski>took me a while to figure out what was happening though
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[01:51:36]<BorisBarowski>but then again it's 3:51 am :p
[01:52:04]<ultra_>lol
[01:52:12]<BorisBarowski>anyway, happy everything worked out :)
[01:52:19]<ultra_>this is exactly what I was looking for, total savior :)
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[01:53:13]<BorisBarowski>anyway, off to bed now :)
[01:53:18]<ultra_>nite
[01:53:20]<BorisBarowski>bye :)
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[01:59:09]<Creativitylives>Good afternoon
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[02:15:26]<okmi>how do i disable an input filter?
[02:16:01]<betz>okmi: admin/settings/filters
[02:17:24]<okmi>betz: i need to "disable" the php filter. is that menu item just for filters?
[02:17:51]<betz>ah the php filter is a module. disable the module on the modules page
[02:18:02]<okmi>ah - perfect. ty betz
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[02:22:03]<PerryArmstrong>can anyone explain why i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210108/
[02:22:57]<newmember>I am a newbie, I have zen-theme installed, whats a good editor for CSS?
[02:23:16]<Kenn_VM>you can edit css with any text editor
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[02:25:52]<PerryArmstrong>can anyone explain why i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210108/
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[02:26:45]<PerryArmstrong>i have hosted my website at hostmonster and when i visit the modules section, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210108/ can anyone help me
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[02:27:56]<newmember>PerryArmstrong: that was one of the easiest google searches I ahve ever done.
[02:27:59]<newmember>PerryArmstrong: SOLVED by increasing the server's PHP memory_limi = 64 M
[02:28:33]<PerryArmstrong>newmember; this sounds something new...how do i do that
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[02:29:06]<newmember>Can you change your php.ini file through your provider's GUI?
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[02:30:32]<PerryArmstrong>i am searching for that file
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[02:31:09]<newmember>its in a /etc directory
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[02:32:25]<PerryArmstrong>no its not on my system..i have already hosted it in hostmonstor
[02:32:38]<newmember>its on monster
[02:32:48]<newmember>they use c-panel?
[02:34:02]<PerryArmstrong>is it a file
[02:34:19]<newmember>its the monster GUI that lets you adminster your sebsite
[02:35:06]<PerryArmstrong>so where's this cpanel located
[02:36:10]<newmember>lets back up
[02:36:34]<newmember>is there a website you have to log into at the monster site?
[02:36:57]<PerryArmstrong>ya i hosted it in there
[02:37:05]<PerryArmstrong>so i have the folder in it
[02:37:31]<newmember>is there an admin site, that talks about databases, passwords, payments etc?
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[02:37:54]<ultra_>betz: you there? panels problem...
[02:38:01]<betz>yeah
[02:38:33]<ultra_>betz: hey, ok, so, I decided I want to override the node view, in panels 3 it seems like I do that with a task handler, so I added it, but I messed up the layout... and it won't let me edit it.
[02:38:47]<PerryArmstrong>newmember; actually i am not aware of this...i have been provided some space here and told to host the website for whom i am doing
[02:39:06]<newmember>PerryArmstrong: ok
[02:39:32]<betz>ultra_: its difficult to say it like that but if you want i want to have a look with you. You know teamviewer?
[02:39:35]<ultra_>betz: is this just a 3.x bug for now and I should downgrade? or is there some sort of fix for this? have you experienced this issue?
[02:39:45]<ultra_>ehhh... does it run on linux? :P
[02:39:47]<PerryArmstrong>newmember; actually i am new to both drupal and hostmonstor...but i know drupal better
[02:39:51]<betz>yeah
[02:39:59]<ultra_>oh? cool, then sure
[02:40:10]<betz>http://www.teamviewer.com
[02:40:11]<PerryArmstrong>newmember; but i do know te purposes
[02:40:58]<ultra_>betz: I don't see any linux stuff here at all...
[02:41:27]<betz>ow lol thought it ran on linux to
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[02:42:38]<newmember>PerryArmstrong: do you see a "public_html" directory?
[02:44:03]<PerryArmstrong>newmember; ya i do
[02:44:46]<PerryArmstrong>that's what i get when i open file manager
[02:46:07]<PerryArmstrong>ohh so thats called a cpanel file manager
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[03:25:31]<ghm33>is it possible to make a view incorporating 2 or more cck content types?
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[03:30:11]<gagan555>hi all.
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[03:31:30]<gagan555>I have a question: How can i download all the nodes of my drupal site in the form of rss feeds. Right now, i get maximum 30 feeds in my RSS file. How to fetch all the nodes of my site?
[03:32:28]<ghm33>gagan555 how many items are listed in /admin/content/rss-publishing
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[03:40:09]<gagan555>GHM33 :: i have listed 30 items and full node in rss publishing options
[03:40:24]<gagan555>i want to download rss file with all the nodes in it.
[03:40:55]<ghm33>have you tried increasing the number?
[03:41:06]<gagan555>the maximum is 30!!
[03:41:42]<ghm33>ahaha my bad didnt know that till now
[03:42:01]<gagan555>so do u have any other ideas for this?
[03:42:24]<ghm33>sorry no
[03:42:49]<gagan555>ghm thanks for your assistance.
[03:42:54]<gagan555>any others to help me out.
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[03:43:42]<iggyx2>why does tabeless theme like Garland look out of wack in IE?
[03:45:38]<iggyx2>*tableless
[03:48:59]<iggyx2>optimize it in FF and all happy till i open it in IE then crap
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[03:51:30]<fuzzybunny69y>hey everyone does anyone know of a fast way th
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[03:52:55]<iggyx2>yeah take interstate 95 it's the fastest lol
[03:53:49]<CrashTest_>So, running into this again. I am theming my login form, and I want to add node content below my login form, what's the best way to accomplish this? Should I create a view that displays that picks only that node that I want to display, and create a block item for it, then alter the block visibility settings to display on only /user/login, or is there a better way?
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[03:55:29]<fuzzybunny69y>hey everyone does anyone know of a fast way of getting this page into Drupal 6. http://members.shaw.ca/thundercats/thundercats_and_allies.html
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[04:02:04]<dougvann>happy birthday CrashTest_ !! big ol' 38 today! [as of 1 min ago] ;-)
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[04:05:33]<CrashTest_>dougvann: Hey Doug, thanks man!
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[04:08:42]<dougvann>;-)
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[04:10:40]<fuzzybunny69y>happy bday CrashTest_
[04:11:09]<prescriptor>how does one "remove" js inside preprocess_page ? i want to remove the default Drupal.js and jQuery.js from being included in my theme
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[04:14:05]<prescriptor>Anyone?
[04:14:05]<Druplicon>if someone knows, they'll respond. if it's a silly question, or one that can't be answered, then don't expect an answer.
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[04:14:18]<CrashTest_>prescriptor: well, you can remove the print $scripts from the page.tpl.php
[04:14:29]<CrashTest_>then no js will be loaded automatically
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[04:15:40]<prescriptor>CrashTest_, let me add another clause then to make the statement more explicit, how can I remove only those particular two JS files without needing to disable/exclude the built in $script functionality of Drupal
[04:16:11]<prescriptor>if there is a drupal_add_js function, then doesn't it make sense to have another function such as drupal_remove_js?
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[04:16:28]<ghm33>when i create a repeating date without hours and minutes on a cck content type, the block view shows the start date plus "(All Day)". How do i remove "(All Day)"?
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[04:18:19]<pedestrianentran>i have a zen theme i created for one of my sites. I installed zenophile on another site, and copied my theme to the new site... but its not working properly.... any ideas?
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[04:22:09]<CrashTest_>prescriptor: sorry, had to take care of my kids
[04:22:09]<prescriptor>so no one here knows how to remove those JS files?
[04:22:15]<prescriptor>no worries
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[04:22:40]<CrashTest_>prescriptor: I believe if you explicitly include any js file in your .info file for your theme, that it will use only that file.
[04:23:16]<prescriptor>CrashTest_, yes but that will automatically include them only if they exits in the same directory as the theme itself
[04:23:53]<prescriptor>CrashTest_, in contrast, drupal_add_js() enables me to include themes outside of theme directory,
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[04:24:28]<prescriptor>CrashTest_, however the point here is that i'm pretty competent when it comes to inclusion of JS files, it's deletion of the default files i'm not clear on
[04:24:49]<CrashTest_>prescriptor: sorry, not sure on that one.
[04:25:16]<prescriptor>ie. why the heck is this thing including the include/Drupal.js or includes/jquery.js by itself
[04:26:14]<prescriptor>sorry that should have been misc/drupal.js but the point stands
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[04:27:13]<Kenn_VM>if one removed drupal.js and jquery.js from drupal, wouldn't one run into issue with things like, admin screens and such?
[04:27:48]<prescriptor>not if one has made sure the admin screen uses a different theme
[04:28:05]<Kenn_VM>gotcha
[04:28:33]<prescriptor>you're telling me that i have to patch drupal if i don't want this freaking thing?
[04:28:50]<prescriptor>like drupal.js included inside $script?
[04:29:08]<Kenn_VM>I'm not making any statements, I was merely asking a question.
[04:29:10]<prescriptor>what kinda design decision is that?
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[04:29:48]<Kenn_VM>the only way to know if its' hardcoded is to run search all files, or grep or whatever, for drupal, or jquery and see how many hits you get in core
[04:29:59]<prescriptor>so all drupal sites include this JS unless I don't use $script? and write my own <script .../> tags?
[04:30:24]<CrashTest_>prescriptor: Not sure, but I think that is also the base js for expandable sections, for the password strength checking, the file upload status, etc.
[04:30:30]<Kenn_VM>< has no idea. I only jumped in to ask a question. I've never tired to remove drupal.js or jquery.js
[04:31:02]<prescriptor>i see. so you just let them be there for your sites
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[04:31:33]<Kenn_VM>yep. never occurred to me to try and remove them
[04:31:58]<Kenn_VM>personally, i don't see the need
[04:34:31]<ghm33>guys when im working on cck the table to add fields to content types spill out to my blocks on the right sidebars. what's the best way to avoid this?
[04:34:56]<prescriptor>if people go to extra lengths to pack their javascript files, same people would love to remove extra unnecesary files to reduce the amount of markup and code downloaded on request
[04:35:39]<prescriptor>also i've noticed that drupal caches theme stuff, very well, then it would be inline to also enable this extra tweak
[04:37:07]<Kenn_VM>ghm33, that would be a css issue of some sort, probably easier to disable blocks from showing on CCK admin screens. Likely why it may not have been noticed before
[04:37:56]<Kenn_VM>I don't understand the parallel between caching theme "stuff" and removing core javascript files
[04:38:02]<prescriptor>as an example, let's say i'm making a .NET website and i'm gzipping the response stream buffer before it's sent to the browswer.. i save 10 k... then i leave a JS file that I dont use in the markup that makes the visitor browswer download 16k of unnecessary js ... hmm.. then I'd be a dumbass kinda ... wont I?
[04:38:04]<Kenn_VM>drupal.js also handled the resizable text areas.
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[04:38:13]<xur1z>ghm33: using garland for your admin theme is an easy solution too
[04:38:20]<spytrek0071>how could i get a score, results, fixtures panel within drupal site? for reference see cricinfo.com
[04:38:37]<prescriptor>Kenn_VM, yes but yet you use the stuff inside Drupal.js and I don't
[04:38:48]<ghm33>Kenn_VM thanks. i've never tried using a default theme when im in admin mode. that's possible right?
[04:38:51]<xur1z>spytrek0071: i don't know of any modules for that specifically, but you could build something with CCK & views to do that
[04:39:03]<ghm33>xur1z ok ill try it thanks
[04:39:32]<Kenn_VM>prescriptor, actually my response was from doing reasearch on drupal.org for you. A) finding out what drupal.js handles and if its possible to remove it
[04:39:34]<xur1z>eg CCK for fixture dates, scores & results, then views to produce a report on a given team's performance over the season
[04:39:36]<Kenn_VM>there are quite a few threads
[04:39:39]<Kenn_VM>maybe start there
[04:39:42]<Kenn_VM>or ask in #drupal
[04:40:01]<Kenn_VM>ghm33, yes
[04:41:41]<prescriptor>that's another thing .. the different between #drupal and #drupal-support is like the different between <?php echo $foo; ?> and <?= $foo ?>
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[04:42:06]<Kenn_VM>uh, not really core developers are over there
[04:42:21]<Kenn_VM>that would be able to answering your question in this case
[04:43:09]<prescriptor>yah, see you read that as saying they are the same, I could argue they are different, one would not work if you don't have php short hand enabled on the site.. (so one could say they are the same channel these two, one could say they are different)
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[04:43:24]<prescriptor>;-)
[04:44:09]<Kenn_VM>I'm not a php developer so I wouldn't know the difference in the first place ;)
[04:44:17]<ghm33>where can you set garland as the admin theme?
[04:44:36]<Kenn_VM>ghm33: goto administer -> administration theme
[04:44:37]<xur1z>admin/settings/admin
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[04:45:37]<ghm33>thanks
[04:46:37]<Kenn_VM>prescriptor: looks like drupal.js is called 21 times in 4 files
[04:47:06]<prescriptor>Kenn_VM, i know how to remove it by patching or chaning core files
[04:47:20]<Kenn_VM>oh
[04:47:55]<prescriptor>using a built in function like drupal_add_js you can add js files. i 'm looking for a built in (non hack) way to remove them
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[04:48:33]<Kenn_VM>don't know that you can
[04:48:49]<Kenn_VM>drupal_drop_js or similar doesn't exist
[04:48:56]<prescriptor>;-) i know
[04:49:24]<Kenn_VM>okeedoke
[04:49:29]<backinnam>anyone know of a module that allows you to display all or part of a menu as a block or in a view perhaps
[04:49:50]<Kenn_VM>all menus are blocks
[04:49:59]<threexk>D6's INSTALL.mysql.txt removed the "LOCK TABLES" grant, but if you do a mysqldump it uses the LOCK TABLES command. So I am wondering why the requirement for LOCK TABLES was removed?
[04:50:42]<Kenn_VM>I uses it if available and doesn't lock the table if not ..... I think
[04:51:04]<threexk>Kenn_VM: I couldn't restore the dump until I gave the DB LOCK TABLES
[04:51:12]<threexk>Kenn_VM: err, the DB user
[04:51:54]<threexk>I suppose they are assuming not everyone needs to back up their site?
[04:52:09]<threexk>I'll search D.o
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[04:52:28]<Kenn_VM>I'm guessing t hat because it was used on the the export, it would have to be used on the import?
[04:52:53]<backinnam>i guess i mean as a seperate block
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[04:53:19]<Kenn_VM>so you want another block with the same menu items?
[04:53:26]<Kenn_VM>multiblock?
[04:53:27]<backinnam>meaning have the menu in the sidebar and then list part of the menu in a page elsewhere
[04:53:55]<Kenn_VM>you can split your menu or create a new one, when you create a new menu it creates a new block
[04:53:57]<backinnam>will multiblock let me use a subset of a menu?
[04:54:09]<Kenn_VM>you can also investigate the multiblock.module to duplicate blocks
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[04:54:30]<backinnam>i want the menu defined in one place only so I dont have to go chasing bad links
[04:55:13]<Kenn_VM>hmmm, not sure how thats going to be pulled off
[04:55:24]<wr5aw>anyone have suggestions for adding mime attachments, specifically pdf file?
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[04:55:52]<Kenn_VM>mimedetect?
[04:55:52]<Druplicon>mimedetect is http://drupal.org/project/mimedetect
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[04:57:30]<wr5aw>Kenn_VM: thanks, that looks like a detection only module? i need to actually attach a pdf file to email. I have my hook_mail done but just need to do the attachment part.
[04:57:34]<Creativitylives>you really do have all of the newest installed eh kenn
[04:57:59]<Kenn_VM>wr5aw, gotcha
[04:58:19]<Kenn_VM>Creativity: not all installed, just on my machine in a library
[04:58:33]* wr5aw has done some googling already and looked at a few things
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[04:58:55]<wr5aw>should i ask in drupal instead?
[04:59:01]<Kenn_VM>wr5aw, that may be a question for #drupal or digging through api.drupal.org
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[04:59:19]<wr5aw>Kenn_VM: Great minds think alike, hahah
[04:59:23]<wr5aw>ok, thanks
[04:59:34]<Kenn_VM>how are you this evening Creativity?
[05:01:58]<Creativitylives>im good just watching stupid stuff online been studying
[05:02:02]<Creativitylives>and how are you?
[05:02:10]<Kenn_VM>I'm well thanks
[05:02:21]<Creativitylives>another late night planned?
[05:02:57]<Kenn_VM>certainly. didn't even realize it is already 1am on the east coast
[05:03:23]<Creativitylives>yup yup honestly i get more work done at this time
[05:03:30]<Kenn_VM>what are you studying?
[05:03:46]<Kenn_VM>so do I, no phone calls, nobody stopping by for a beer, no interruptions
[05:04:00]<Creativitylives>honestly brushing up on my html and css
[05:04:11]<Kenn_VM>gotcha
[05:04:31]<Creativitylives>have been in a different field for years so its all new to me again
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[05:04:47]<ghm33>what does caching blocks entail?
[05:04:53]<Kenn_VM>I totally understnad
[05:04:57]<ghm33>what happens if i cache / not cache a block?
[05:05:11]<Kenn_VM>if you cache a block, the data can become stale
[05:05:20]<Kenn_VM>if you don't cache the data is immediate
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[05:05:26]<Kenn_VM>like browser cache
[05:05:37]<ghm33>ah ok thanks
[05:05:39]<Creativitylives>doesnt it just use it for faster browsing
[05:05:40]<Kenn_VM>caching is helpful if your site is busy
[05:06:00]<Kenn_VM>and you need to cache stuff so that they aren't pulling from the DB all the time. It's good to cache blocks that are static in nature
[05:06:09]<ghm33>ok 1 more ?
[05:06:14]<Kenn_VM>dynamic blocks one may consider leaving uncached
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[05:06:43]<Kenn_VM>ghm33, certainly
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[05:06:44]<backinnam>fyi menublock.module allows you to slice up menus and offer them as blocks
[05:06:57]<Kenn_VM>menublock?
[05:07:18]<Kenn_VM>druplicon doesn't have that one. good deal, I'll try and keep it in memory banks
[05:07:23]<wr5aw>anyone use phpmailer?
[05:07:27]<ghm33>i have 3 fields im trying to display on a block. A 30x30 thumbnail img + title + date. I want it to appear like <tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr colspan=2><td></td></tr>
[05:07:28]<ghm33>how?
[05:07:45]<backinnam>menu_block?
[05:07:45]<Druplicon>“menu_block" could also be the “Menu block" module, which provides very flexibly-configured blocks of any Drupal menu. http://drupal.org/project/menu_block
[05:07:45]<Druplicon>menu_block: Implementation of hook_block(). => menu_block($op = 'list', $delta = 0) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/menu_block/6
[05:07:56]<Kenn_VM>ghm33: I'd probably use views.module
[05:08:01]<Creativitylives>yea
[05:08:06]<Creativitylives>views grid or table
[05:08:09]<ghm33>oh im using views
[05:08:17]<ghm33>trying to get a grip on views grid
[05:08:28]<ghm33>but i just wish i could just put a table in there and itd be over with
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[05:08:50]<Kenn_VM>you could but it wouldn't be dynamic
[05:09:13]<Kenn_VM>thus the same data in both columns would be the same
[05:09:19]<Kenn_VM>at all times
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[05:09:37]<Kenn_VM>and if that is ok with you, by all means, use HTML in the block
[05:10:00]<ghm33>im sure views can do it
[05:10:04]<ghm33>figuring it out still..
[05:10:32]<Kenn_VM>what exactly is throwing you off about the grid style in views?
[05:11:02]<Creativitylives>sounds like some kind of search within it
[05:11:06]<ghm33>hold up. now that i know views can do it i'll give it another go.
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[05:14:11]<ghm33>does imgcache do rounded corners?
[05:15:19]<Creativitylives>what do u mean?
[05:15:27]<Creativitylives>does it round them for you?
[05:15:32]<ghm33>yep
[05:15:37]<ghm33>square as heck
[05:15:40]<ghm33>hehe
[05:16:45]<Kenn_VM>no imagecache scales and crops images
[05:16:51]<Kenn_VM>it does not do rounded corners
[05:17:27]<Kenn_VM>you can create a custom block.tpl.php for that block or use css to target that block and add rounded corners though
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[05:45:55]<dougvann>Muimi: over here when you get a chance
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[05:46:21]<dougvann>ubercart?
[05:46:21]<Druplicon>Ubercart -- One cart to rule them all. -- Project page: http://drupal.org/project/ubercart -- Community page: http://www.ubercart.org -- IRC channel: #drupal-ubercart
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[05:48:53]<dougvann>heygang, if Muimi pops in here soon, pls explain ubercart and how successfully Drupal has been used as an online retail platform. :-)
[05:49:42]<dougvann>as a last word, I'll mention http://www.commerceguys.com/ and their Drupal Installation Profile which is listed on the front page near the upper left.... and with that... good night all!
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[05:58:38]<MAK1>hello to all
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[06:00:48]<tyronelearner>hiya all I just got notification to update to drupal 6.13 any ideas on the easiest was to do this?
[06:02:11]<tr>ghm33: http://drupal.org/project/imagecache_actions does rounded corners, among other things
[06:02:26]<tyronelearner>oh and installing 6.13 and keeping my site still?
[06:02:29]<tyronelearner>please help thanks?
[06:03:56]<tr>tyronelearner: Follow the instructions at http://drupal.org/upgrade/
[06:05:01]<Kenn_VM>there is an upgrade.txt in the 6.13 download
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[06:06:22]<tyronelearner>im a newbie and building on the one previous version do u think i can carry on building and then upgrade in a couple days when got more time???
[06:09:51]<tr>upgrading from 6.12? Should be painless either way.
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[06:11:13]<tyronelearner>thanks
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[06:11:30]<Muimi>okay i'm here doug
[06:11:48]<Muimi>Is Drupal a good place for an online store?
[06:12:10]<Muimi>I'm actually interested in putting some products on my page that would cause recurring fees.
[06:12:15]<boobaa>what do you recommend if i want to share my own audio recordings? i don't need any "album" support, as they're >30mins each, and stand by themselves; but i want to be able to both play it in the browser or download them
[06:12:35]<Muimi>is it safe enough to do that, and are there tutorials for how to do it with some kind of open-source shopping cart?
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[06:13:21]<boobaa>Muimi: ubercart is what you are looking for. has a quite steep learning curve at the start, but you'll love it afterwards
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[06:13:40]<Muimi>recurring fees and alerts my customers and everything?
[06:13:54]<Muimi>I don't ever want to charge someone without first telling them, "We're going to charge you in a week. We're going to charge you in a day."
[06:14:04]<Muimi>"We just charged you. Call us and tell us if you didn't want us to do this."
[06:14:37]<Muimi>Happy fourth, btw.
[06:14:44]<Muimi>ubercart. :)
[06:14:45]<boobaa>i don't think it's impossible
[06:14:52]<tr>Muimi: Yes, it does recurring fees as you describe. Also allows you to sell files (e.g. audio downloads).
[06:15:02]<Muimi>Cool. :D
[06:15:07]<tr>Best thing to do is to go to ubercart.org and start reading
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[06:15:28]<Kenn_VM>boobaa, use the cck.module build your audio content type, use filefield to add teh audio field and swftools to provide a player
[06:15:29]<tr>or just install it and try it out
[06:15:42]<Kenn_VM>use views to create listing of your audio with download linkks
[06:15:43]<Muimi>I will....
[06:16:18]<Muimi>Oh my god. There's documentation?
[06:16:23]<Muimi>OMG OMG! squirt
[06:16:35]<boobaa>Kenn_VM: drupal multimedia (aaron's book) recommends audio.module (which is unstable for d6) or emfield.module (which seems overkill). should i dump that book, that is? :S
[06:16:36]<tr>Kenn_VM: Ubercart provides its own file handling for file downloads, because you have to control who can access the files, so you can't use the usual CCK filefields
[06:17:22]<Muimi>Okay, so ... list of things to do. 1) Learn more about taxonomy. 2) Learn more about google api. 3) Learn more about ubercart.
[06:17:33]<Muimi>4) Fix the problem with views. It didn't work.
[06:17:47]<Muimi>Can we move #4 to #1? ^^
[06:18:29]<Muimi>I was trying to set up a view that would show teasers of my most recent 3 posts promoted to the front page on my front page.
[06:18:42]<Muimi>I set the teaser node to be my front page, but the view thing isn't working.
[06:19:29]<Muimi>I set the filter to Node: Published and Node: Promoted to front page
[06:19:58]<Muimi>I published two new book pages, but the book page teasers didn't show up on my front page.
[06:20:11]<Muimi>Is it just cause they were books and not pages or stories or something?
[06:20:14]<Kenn_VM>what is set in administer -> site information -> default front page?
[06:20:23]<Muimi>firtthree
[06:20:33]<Kenn_VM>huh?
[06:20:52]<Muimi>that's the name of the page for the view i created
[06:21:17]<Kenn_VM>and its a page display?
[06:21:35]<Kenn_VM>or is it merely default settings in the view?
[06:22:01]<Muimi>the view is page display
[06:22:45]<Kenn_VM>:shruggs shoulders: I j ust set a view as my front page and it worked as expectedd
[06:24:01]<MAK1>hello to all
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[06:24:28]<Muimi>oh
[06:24:32]<Muimi>i had it set to blog only
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[06:30:23]<Muimi>thanks guys
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[06:54:31]<toyo|desk>hmm I wonder if there is a way to implement a tagging feature in advanced forums
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[06:57:22]<Kenn_VM>forums are built on taxonomy, they are already tagged
[06:57:27]<Kenn_VM>thats how the forums are built
[06:57:33]<Kenn_VM>your terms are the forums
[06:57:46]<Kenn_VM>regardless of advanced forum
[06:58:00]<Kenn_VM>which is built on top of and utilizes core forum
[06:58:05]<PerryArmstrong>i hosted my website at hostmonstor...can anyone tell me how i can find the php.ini file
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[07:00:00]<Kenn_VM>you have to check your host documentation and host panel. it is not normally a file that is available
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[07:00:27]<Kenn_VM>if the host allows overriding php defaults, you can create your own php.ini and place in it the settings you want to change
[07:00:39]<Kenn_VM>check if your settings change by running a phpinfo()
[07:01:51]<toyo|desk>Kenn_VM, I think I meant more like users being able to tag threads for easy searching
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[07:04:12]<Kenn_VM>you can use the flag.module that users can flag as favorites
[07:04:25]<Kenn_VM>you can build all kinds of flasg
[07:04:32]<Kenn_VM>spam favorites whatever
[07:04:34]<Kenn_VM>flag?
[07:04:34]<Druplicon>flag is http://drupal.org/project/flag
[07:05:13]<toyo|desk>yeah I have that I think I mean more like keywords
[07:05:38]<toyo|desk>so you can have keywords associated with threads
[07:05:48]<Kenn_VM>community_tags?
[07:06:12]<Kenn_VM>try http://drupal.org/project/community_tags
[07:06:17]<toyo|desk>alright
[07:06:18]<toyo|desk>thanks
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[07:29:52]<tyronelearner> hiya I am using ubercart and have products in a catalogue, since all my products are one of a kind paintings, how can i when a product gets sold, keep it in the catalogue but make it sold so u cant ad it to cart?
[07:30:18]<MipsIrv>views.. im not sure if I am reading the help correctly.. is there a way to get url arguments into a block?
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[07:39:05]<Kenn_VM>views allows arguments to be used in views. The view can then be put into a block. If you want arguments beyond that you may need the panels.module
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[07:41:47]<MipsIrv>panels? hmm let me check that out
[07:42:05]<MipsIrv>so many modules.. near impossible to keep up with them
[07:43:16]<MipsIrv>wow this looks promising.. thanks for the tip
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[07:55:07]<qaza>hello
[07:55:07]<Druplicon>privet
[07:55:18]<qaza>how can i use data picker in fapi?
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[08:01:34]<kartik1507>hi
[08:01:57]<kartik1507>how do i display memory usage by modules in drupal?
[08:02:20]<qaza>try use the dev module
[08:02:28]<qaza>i think it displays all that
[08:02:32]<kartik1507>ok
[08:02:34]<kartik1507>thnx
[08:02:56]<kartik1507>the memory used by the modules is only for the php scripts?
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[08:04:57]<qaza>i dont understand kartik1507
[08:05:46]<kartik1507>i mean, why do modules like 'views' require more memory?
[08:06:17]<kartik1507>They require so much memory to run php scripts?
[08:06:44]<qaza>probably because it has to remember more?
[08:07:01]<kartik1507>ok
[08:07:30]<kartik1507>and the dev module which u had mentioned earlier, is it this one http://drupal.org/project/devel
[08:07:37]<qaza>yep
[08:08:04]<kartik1507>ok
[08:08:05]<kartik1507>thnx
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[08:16:32]<ernie_eu>hi, any Idea how add custom fields during user registration, and display it in user info page ?
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[08:19:19]<qaza>you can make custom profile fields which appear on the user rego page, then can make a block or something to display the fields you want
[08:19:46]<ernie_eu>oh, yes
[08:20:06]<ernie_eu>thank you :)
[08:20:11]<qaza>:D
[08:20:20]<qaza>do you know anything about fapi and date picker?
[08:20:39]<ernie_eu>who, me ?
[08:20:46]<qaza>yeah why not :P
[08:20:58]<ernie_eu>sorry.. not yet ;)
[08:21:03]<qaza>cool
[08:21:47]<ernie_eu>gotta back to work, cu
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[08:28:42]<toyo|desk>just got an interesting error http://pastebin.com/df305701
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[08:35:03]<tyronelearner>hiya i am building my first drupal site to sell products using ubercart and still learning it says "Credit card encryption must be configured to accept credit card payments" where do i fix this and then where do i put my paypal details in and lastly - i am using "PayPal Website Payments Standard settings" and asks for paypal server "sandbox" and "live" not sure which is which - please i dont know how to proceed
[08:35:49]<qaza>dont yopu need ssl?
[08:35:57]<Muimi>:( I feel like I just invented the television.
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[08:36:19]<qaza>muimi, thats a good thing
[08:36:24]<tyronelearner>qaza u ask me about ssl?
[08:36:33]<qaza>yeah
[08:36:34]<Muimi>nah cause now i want to tell someone whawt i invented
[08:36:36]<Muimi>:(
[08:36:43]<tyronelearner>ssl module?
[08:36:53]<qaza>well ssl server
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[08:37:18]<qaza>if you want a secured site, you need a ssl server
[08:37:32]<qaza>and you have to buy a ssl certificate
[08:38:06]<Muimi>why? Can't you just make one?
[08:38:10]<tyronelearner>on "PayPal Website Payments Standard settings" under paypal server it says sandbox and light
[08:38:20]<Muimi>I mean, it's just an encryption method, right? So you could install it or something
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[08:39:09]<qaza>you have to configure ssl with apache eh?
[08:39:47]<Muimi>I don't know enough about it. I should just be quiet.
[08:39:53]<xur1z>qaza: i'm afraid that inventing the TV in 2009 is probably not such a great thing
[08:39:53]<tyronelearner>sorry is this all on the drupal / ubercart page where do i do this?
[08:40:33]<xur1z>tyrone: CC encryption setup wants you to create a special directory out of the webroot for encryption keys to be stored
[08:41:07]<dekita>toyo|desk: looks like an error in 'WHERE r.rid IN ()' there's no role ids passed to the query for some reason
[08:41:40]<qaza>does anyone know about fapi and date picker?
[08:41:43]<tyronelearner>okay sorry im really confused which directory do i need to create / where / etc pretty new to ubercart just want to able to accept payment
[08:41:48]<qaza>is there a decent page that explains it?
[08:41:51]<toyo|desk>dekita, it seems to have cleared the flag
[08:41:57]<toyo|desk>I am using the flag abuse module
[08:42:00]<xur1z>if you're not doing 2PT transactions then you don't need it.
[08:42:04]<xur1z>i would strongly recommend that unless you're well familiar with securing a system, you stick to 3PT transactions, where the payment processor handles the keys. you don't want to risk seeing a CC on your server if you're not intimately familiar with how to lock a system down.
[08:42:15]<toyo|desk>and that error happened when I went to clear a flag
[08:42:37]<dekita>toyo|desk: it's also possible the query parameters aren't being passed, so for some reason the rids are empty
[08:42:40]<xur1z>ubercart only needs the keys dir to encrypt credit cards on your system. if you send them to paypal (for example) to transact, you never need to do this.
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[08:43:04]<xur1z>did you turn on all the paypal modules hoping to get one to work?
[08:43:24]<tyronelearner>my gateway can only be paypal thats all i am using as a gateway not signed up / authorised anywhere else
[08:43:27]<tyronelearner>looking now
[08:43:30]<xur1z>that's cool
[08:43:37]<xur1z>you may have multiple paypal processors
[08:43:40]<dekita>you can use SSL with a certificate on your own server, or you can use a hosted solution like PayPal and send customers there
[08:43:49]<toyo|desk>dekita, I dont know php so I have no clue what the heck is going on with it
[08:43:57]<xur1z>paypal std shouldn't need the encryption keys setup AFAIK
[08:43:59]<toyo|desk>if it continues though I will file a bug
[08:44:00]<toyo|desk>:P
[08:44:22]<tyronelearner>seems like all paypal related modules are active
[08:44:43]<tyronelearner>paypal is my only gateway for accepting payments so pretty much just ened to activate paypal right now but struglling
[08:44:46]<xur1z>ok, so disable the ones which aren't paypal standard or required for standard
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[08:45:25]<tyronelearner>okay paypal is only one now active
[08:46:38]<tyronelearner>okay no more of that error but where do i put in my paypal details to start accepting payments on my site
[08:46:40]<xur1z>has it stopped harassing you to set up the enc keys dir now?
[08:47:03]<tyronelearner>yeah all good but just wandering how to start this paypal accepting thing
[08:47:09]<tyronelearner>got products up
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[08:50:38]<xur1z>let me check
[08:50:48]<xur1z>tyrone i *highly* recommend you install this module
[08:50:50]<xur1z>admin_menu?
[08:50:50]<Druplicon>admin_menu is http://drupal.org/project/admin_menu
[08:51:03]<xur1z>^^ it will help you find things in ubercart too
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[08:51:21]<xur1z>(i'm assuming you don't have it because you're having trouble finding the payment settings)
[08:52:00]<xur1z>try admin/store/settings/payment/edit/gateways
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[08:52:16]<xur1z>somewhere around there should be the settings you're looking for
[08:52:26]<xur1z>i don't use paypal so i'm partly guessing :P
[08:53:07]<Narhir->Hello
[08:53:14]<Narhir->any experts with internationalization module ?:)
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[09:18:00]<spat>is there a way I can display the imagefield description in lightbox2?
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[09:43:36]<xur1z>notify vs notifications vs subscriptions ?
[09:43:40]<xur1z>notify?
[09:43:40]<Druplicon>notify is the module, that allows users to subscribe to periodic emails which include all new or revised content and/or comments much like the daily news letters sent by some websites. http://drupal.org/project/notify
[09:43:42]<xur1z>notifications?
[09:43:42]<Druplicon>notifications is http://drupal.org/project/notifications a complete subscriptions/notifications framework
[09:43:45]<xur1z>subscriptions?
[09:43:45]<Druplicon>subscriptions is http://drupal.org/project/subscriptions enables users to subscribe to be notified of changes to nodes or taxonomies, such as new comments in specific forums, or additions to some category of blog.
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[09:48:49]<ddd_>hello
[09:48:49]<Druplicon>bonjour
[09:50:10]<ddd_>i'd like to get the pmgrowl module working but it does nothing. is there a way to get some debug messages in drupal to post to the pmgrowl group?
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[09:58:50]<tassoman>is there some recipe to make user geo localized? «wich user is the nearest?»
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[10:12:02]<tim666>hello i have a question about drupal and xml
[10:12:19]<tomo_>/topic
[10:12:20]<Nikit>just ask.
[10:13:32]<tim666>great, i am trying to get the aggregator to display an xml feed but the xml is not rss or atom
[10:13:59]<tim666>what are my options for getting xml into drupal?
[10:14:48]<marsilainen>tim666: have you tried looking at feedapi?
[10:14:52]<marsilainen>feedapi?
[10:14:52]<Druplicon>feedapi is FeedAPI aggregates feeds on a Drupal website by generating light weight items or nodes from feeds. http://drupal.org/project/feedapi
[10:15:06]<marsilainen>tim666: it's a bit like aggregator, but more powerful
[10:15:32]<marsilainen>tim666: you can use the parsers that come with it, or even add your own parser if necessary to parse the incoming xml
[10:15:49]<tim666>i have installed it and tried simplepie parser and the other one that comes with it but neither work
[10:16:04]<marsilainen>tim666: well, yes, they will probably expect rss/atom etc
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[10:16:32]<marsilainen>tim666: if it's some other sort of xml you'll probably need to create your own xml parser to use with it I guess
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[10:17:39]<tim666>is there a way i could transform the incoming xml into something suitable?
[10:18:05]<marsilainen>tim666: for something custom like you're talking about then I would definitely be looking at going down the feedapi route rather than aggregator
[10:18:21]<marsilainen>tim666: I guess it depends on what that xml is
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[10:19:02]<marsilainen>tim666: 'xml' is a very broad term, it could cover many things, some which can easily be converted into something like rss, some which can't
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[10:19:21]<marsilainen>tim666: do you have an example of what it is you're wanting to import?
[10:19:40]<tim666>yes, just one second i'll dig it out
[10:20:08]<ghm33>hi folks i produced a view with 2 fields, a thumbnail plus a line of text. I want to make them appear inline on a block view, since they seem to <br> into two lines. How?
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[10:22:19]<spat>can someone point me to a rich editor that does work? i'm using tinymce now and can't even get the insert image to work (makes forum style [img] blocks)
[10:24:17]<marsilainen>ghm33: you will probably need to modify the theme - take a look at the 'theme: information' link inside your view to know which template files to create, and see the views documentation under 'advanced help'
[10:25:03]<marsilainen>spat: not used tinymce so don't know much about it, but enough people use it so I'm sure it does work, you probably don't have it set up right, or have the right permissions, or using the right input format or something
[10:25:09]<ghm33>i was hoping to just manage to sneak a <div style="display:inline;"> in there somewhere
[10:25:12]<marsilainen>spat: I use fckeditor and that works fine
[10:25:32]<marsilainen>ghm33: may be possible, not sure, I've only done that sort of thing by theming
[10:25:58]<ghm33>ok thank you
[10:26:53]<spat>marsilainen: perhaps i need a sepperate filter for this stuff than.
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[10:27:17]<ghm33>does anyone use gmap? ive a gmap question
[10:27:28]<tim666>sorry for delay, i uploaded to a server http://www.digitalmassive.com/test/xml.xml
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[10:28:00]<tassoman>wich best way to implement geo localization in Drupal 6 ?
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[10:28:45]<someguy_>hi there
[10:29:02]<tim666>I use fckeditor too, it's pretty good when you get over a few annoying things
[10:29:11]<marsilainen>tim666: I think you'll have to build a custom parser for that
[10:29:14]<marsilainen>tim666: you might want to look at: http://groups.drupal.org/node/5301 and http://drupal.org/project/feedapi_eparser
[10:29:14]<Druplicon>http://groups.drupal.org/node/5301 => FeedAPI developer's guide => 4 IRC mentions
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[10:29:28]<ghm33>ive managed to add location cck + gmap onto a cck type. Can i eventually produce a map that shows all of the markers produced by the gmaps of the individual nodes that used it?
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[10:31:21]<someguy_>a friend of mine installed the global redirect module, now two wrong links appear in the sitemap generated by the xmlsitemap module. those are links like : http://www.mywebsite.fr/node/50 but these links point to nowhere (to a 404). what gives ?
[10:31:54]<tim666>thanks marsilainen, i looked at feedapi_eparser but it gave me errors, maybe i didn't look at it long enough, i'll look at the FeedAPI developer's guide. i haven't seen that before.
[10:32:48]<toyo|desk>anyone know if there are any known issues with collapsed threaded comments being broken
[10:32:50]<toyo|desk>?
[10:32:59]<toyo|desk>because they are not displaying for me
[10:33:09]<toyo|desk>the links to the comments are there on the page
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[10:33:25]<toyo|desk>but when you click on them they just take you to the bottom of the page
[10:33:53]<marsilainen>tim666: certainly building some sort of parser for feedapi is the way to go, whichever method you use
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[10:37:27]<tim666>Thanks, it's great to get some kind of recommendation like that. There are so many possibilities with Drupal
[10:37:35]<marsilainen>np
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[10:46:03]<dvig>hi! please tell me how to change the postition of view. i need to put i between title and content.
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[10:52:57]<ngnp>tassoman: i believe there's a distance with location & views ... not sure
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[10:55:13]<modeller>is there blogspot community in freenode ???
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[11:00:09]<ngnp>modeller: you want to integrate with drupal?
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[11:02:25]<spat>marsilainen: I installed the fckeditor but it does not show up in the dropdown menu. in the list it does show as installed
[11:03:28]<marsilainen>spat: which dropdown menu?
[11:04:49]<spat>in wysiwyg settings, there i should be able to add it to my HTML filters with a dropdown
[11:05:54]<spat>marsilainen: or does fckeditor work differently?
[11:06:38]<ngnp>spat: you installed fckeditor.module of FCKEditor.zip?
[11:07:05]<marsilainen>spat: sorry, I don't use fckeditor in the wysiwyg api, I use the standalone fckeditor module
[11:08:25]<spat>ngnp: no i downloaded the tgz don't see a .module file there
[11:09:27]<ngnp>spat: into the sites/all/libraries directory ... that's the location wysiwyg expects
[11:10:55]<spat>ngnp: yeah I extracted everything to that dir but where do i get the fckeditor.module?
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[11:11:50]<ngnp>you don't need the .module ... was just checking what fck you downloaded. No drupal version is needed :)
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[11:13:38]<spat>ngnp: as I said in the list it shows that it's installed
[11:13:57]<spat>I just installed the module too
[11:14:25]<ngnp>quess that's bad :p
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[11:19:50]<level09_>what was the replacement for $(document.read() ) in druapl
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[11:25:04]<modeller>ngnp, I'm learing about it now. But Drupal need time to learn.
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[11:26:14]<modeller>now I will create journal by blogspot. and then when I can be better in drupal I'll move all content to it.
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[11:31:46]<modeller>Can you advise me about drupal theme wich is proper for web picture gallery?
[11:32:17]<haggins>hello! I want to show up a view within PHP-filter by calling "print $view->preview('calendar_1', array('2009-01')); print $view->preview('calendar_1', array('2009-02'));" and get the same output twice. Is there a way to "reset" the view after its first call?
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[11:34:49]<marsilainen>modeller: you could use most themes for creating a gallery
[11:37:19]<spat>ngnp: actually its not bad as the module works just fine, dropping the wysiwyg module
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[11:37:23]<level09_>hook_page?
[11:37:26]<spat>thanks!
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[11:38:08]<Narhir>Kenn_VM : ? can we chat on querry ? Please ?
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[11:58:02]<level09_>what controls the order of profile fields
[11:58:05]<level09_>?
[11:58:07]<level09_>:?
[11:58:07]* Druplicon isn't sure either
[11:58:09]<level09_>:!
[11:58:09]* Druplicon isn't sure either
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[12:11:41]<Narhir>Okay Folks.. I need help
[12:12:10]<Narhir>currently I have my own private web dev company located in Poland... and.. so on now Im trying to get some EU / UE dotation
[12:12:25]<Narhir>they give money to companies that are doing e - services...
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[12:12:46]<Narhir>the thing is.. that I must offer something.. to my clients for example that is innovative and automaticle
[12:13:04]<Narhir>but Im not quite sure what it can be
[12:13:06]<Narhir>any ideas ?:PPP
[12:13:21]<Narhir>ofcourse drupal releated stuff..
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[12:25:41]<level09_>lol ur looking for ideas
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[12:29:02]<level09_>Narhir: a web service
[12:29:07]<level09_>thats the key
[12:29:09]<level09_>web2.0 app
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[12:59:39]<ultra_>hey, anyone know how I can get the current node ID in panels using php filter?
[13:00:47]<ultra_>... nevermind, arg(1) seems to work
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[13:05:07]<alex33>hi - is it possible to pass a "value" field using the webform module?
[13:05:20]<alex33>i need to pass a value that should not be visible to the users
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[13:13:27]<level09_>it worked it worked
[13:13:29]<level09_>:D
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[13:18:11]<PerryArmstrong>can anyone help me solve this error: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 674306 bytes) in /home8/apogeecm/public_html/CSI/drupal-6.12/includes/database.mysql-common.inc on line 41
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[13:26:10]<level09_>ini_set('memory_limit','96M');
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[13:27:31]<PerryArmstrong>level09_; where do i have to do that
[13:27:47]<level09_>settings.php
[13:28:24]<modeller_wahkor>i dont understand about feedburner.
[13:29:05]<modeller_wahkor>in feed burner we have ogiginal feed address and feed address.
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[13:29:53]<modeller_wahkor>if i want to know and keepp stat what address i can show in web. ?
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[13:30:44]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: I don't use it, but I suppose you give your users the 'feed address' and then 'original feed address' is the actual feed from your blog?
[13:31:39]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: that way the user uses the feedburner feed address, and feedburner gives them all the data from 'original feed address' but just keeps track of how many times it has given it out etc?
[13:33:04]<PerryArmstrong>level09_; now it throws another error: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 70693 bytes) in /home8/apogeecm/public_html/CSI/drupal-6.12/includes/cache.inc on line 105 my site is already hosted in hostmonstor and i am doing the changes there...and when i changed the settings.php...it threw me some other errors too
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[13:33:43]<modeller_wahkor>i dont understand about feed system
[13:34:27]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: users use feeds in order to keep watching your blog etc to see when there are new posts to read
[13:34:37]<modeller_wahkor>aha
[13:34:56]<modeller_wahkor>you know bloglines.com
[13:35:01]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: so users add the feed url to their RSS aggregator software or whatever and then that checks the feed every so often to see if there is new posts
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[13:35:31]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: so if they use the original feed then it will work for them, but it's hard for you to know how many people are watching for updates to your blog
[13:35:34]<activelyOUT>can you setup actions to send an email to someone if the node author sets a taxonomy term to review
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[13:35:44]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: so feedburner can sit in the middle and log those requests
[13:35:54]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: no, I don't know bloglines.com, apart from the name
[13:36:19]<modeller_wahkor>It request my feed address to generator feed button for add to the web.
[13:36:45]<modeller_wahkor>I should use feed url from feed burner rifgt ?
[13:36:51]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: I don't know about that, but this isn't really the right channel for that sort of question
[13:37:01]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: this channel is for drupal questions
[13:37:08]<modeller_wahkor>yes i know.
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[13:37:29]<marsilainen>modeller_wahkor: I would think you would use the feedburner feed url, but I don't know
[13:37:33]<modeller_wahkor>i think drupal user can prefesional in RSS too
[13:37:48]<modeller_wahkor>thank anyway.
[13:38:35]<PerryArmstrong>level09_; there?
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[13:39:11]<modeller_wahkor>now I have try create my journal . fiest by blogspot. then when systen is ok i'll move it to my URL whare is use drupal now i'm learning about it.
[13:39:39]<modeller_wahkor>but it take time to understand drupal.
[13:39:53]<PerryArmstrong>hey i am unable to save the changes made to settings.php in hostmonstor....any idea how to
[13:43:03]<newmember>mkae changes to setting.php on your computer and upload it via ftp
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[13:43:10]<la_integral>hello! how can i import few hundreds cck nodes (including nodereference and date fields) into drupal?
[13:44:03]<mfz2008>Dose everybody have a nice day ?
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[13:45:47]<PerryArmstrong>newmember; thanks...i am doing that now
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[13:47:32]<PerryArmstrong>newmember; done but now i get a new error: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 70693 bytes) in /home8/apogeecm/public_html/CSI/drupal-6.12/includes/cache.inc on line 105
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[13:52:17]<ultra_>PerryArmstrong: edit your php.ini and increase the memory limit
[13:52:29]<ultra_>anyone know how to do a report content feature using rules?
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[13:54:22]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: you were trying to increase your memory by using ini_set in settings.php?
[13:54:56]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: it might be that your host provider doesn't allow setting it so high, they might limit the max memory you can set it to
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[14:36:42]<mrfenix>ahoy all!
[14:36:54]<mrfenix>Who's using Rules Module?
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[14:44:32]<alex33>i am reading an article about webforms - does anybody know if parents referes to the form id? $y['#parents']= array('submitted', 'email');
[14:44:39]<alex33>or is it a general term?
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[15:03:03]<PerryArmstrong>hey can we use wordpress themes for drupal websites
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[15:12:15]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: no
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[15:12:52]<egoleo_>is there a way i can access webform fields with views?
[15:12:57]<wathek>helloall
[15:13:14]<PerryArmstrong>marsilainen; i want to change the width of the blocks...i just saw some code and i got thoroughly confused
[15:13:48]<egoleo_>how do u mean?
[15:14:00]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: well, how you do that will be dependent on what theme you're using I suppose...
[15:14:02]<egoleo_>u can rebuild it with drupals tags
[15:14:15]<wathek>I'm trying to create a bi-language (french and arabic) web site based on drupal but I need to know how about the RTL ? coz french if and LTR language and Arabic is an RTL language
[15:14:19]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: usually you can change widths like that with a bit of css
[15:14:39]<PerryArmstrong>marsilainen; okk
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[15:14:58]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: usually use firebug or something to figure out which css class to modify
[15:15:01]<marsilainen>firebug?
[15:15:01]<Druplicon>Firebug is a Firefox extension that allows inspection and editing of HTML and CSS. The CSS inspection shows the cascading of styles per element and the location of styles in the source stylesheets. It also contains a Javascript debugger. The next version will have ponies. You can get firebug at http://getfirebug.com/
[15:16:03]<PerryArmstrong>marsilainen; i installed firebug...now how do i make use of it
[15:16:31]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: try reading the docs?
[15:17:16]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: usually use the 'inspect' button and hover/click on the elements on your page to figure out what the css styles are
[15:17:44]<PerryArmstrong>marsilainen; i never heard of inspect button
[15:17:53]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: it's within firebug
[15:19:44]<alex33>is anybody familiar with this synthax: $y['#parents']= array('submitted', 'mailtopro');
[15:19:57]<alex33>mailtopro should be a hidden field of my webform
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[15:40:34]<alex33>is anybody familiar wiht the following syntahx $y['#parents']= array('submitted', 'mailtopro');
[15:42:36]<bitchkat>that looks like pretty basic php.
[15:43:00]<alex33>i mean the structure of the array
[15:43:22]<alex33>should be the value of a hidden field by the webform module
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[15:54:25]<timmillwood>This is my page callback. http://drupalbin.com/10294 Is there a better way of doing it?
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[15:57:17]<mark1>Hi there, I have a prob with one of my user groups.
[15:57:22]<mark1>I have renamed the standard administrator group to "super admins".
[15:57:35]<mark1>I have then created a new administrator group with less permissions. I will post the perms in a sec
[15:57:47]<mark1>Now the facts are:
[15:57:47]<mark1>Users that are part of the new admin group (the one with less privileges) can create new pages and also edit them. However, pages that they have created previously cannot longer be edited by them, except if they are not published yet, it seems.
[15:57:47]<mark1>Why could that be?
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[15:58:55]<mark1>there's the link to the perms http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6900/62418825.jpg
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[16:04:59]<rfay>mark1, there is no standard administrator group until drupal 7...
[16:05:03]<pragnatek_>i have a content type with urls like /content/race-result-3
[16:05:13]<pragnatek_>in views i'm making another field (race name) a link to this content
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[16:05:22]<pragnatek_>what replacement pattern do i need in the link path to make this work?
[16:05:50]<rfay>mark1, you need the "edit own content" permissions for those users
[16:06:25]<rfay>mark1, so add "edit own..." and perhaps "delete own..." to the lesser admin role's permissions
[16:06:40]<mark1>rfay, they are, as you can see in the screenshot
[16:07:22]<mark1>i have drupal 6.6 BTW, which initially was 4.5 and upgraded step-by-step to 6.x
[16:07:22]<la_integral>do you know how i can make checkboxes which always sets default value when i edit content?
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[16:07:31]<ssm2017>hello
[16:07:31]<Druplicon>hola
[16:07:59]<rfay>mark1, I see you have "edit all" for this role. That alone would do it, as you know.
[16:08:22]<ssm2017>do you know why i cannot see the "colors" module parameters in the "garland" theme on a default install of drupal 6.13 ? is it a bug ?
[16:09:13]<rfay>mark1, I'm sure you've already looked a dozen times to make sure the user you're testing has the "administrator" role.
[16:09:27]<rfay>mark1, are any node access modules in play?
[16:09:52]<rfay>mark1, the devel module has a nice feature where it will explain access permissions
[16:13:31]<PerryArmstrong>i am trying to change the path names in menu item but i am not able to example for About us i tried to put the path name as aboutus
[16:14:32]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, the path has to exist. Does it already exist?
[16:14:49]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; no...how do i create the path then
[16:15:47]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, there are two ways to manage paths and menus. The easiest is on the node form (edit or add a node). There you can just change both the path and the menu and they will relate to each other.
[16:16:13]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, the other way is in the menu admin area (admin/build/menu). There, to put a path, you have to have created it first.
[16:16:54]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, the normal place to have created the path is on the "URL Path Settings" on the node add/edit form
[16:17:25]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, so I always recommend to newbies *not* to use the menu admin screen if they can help it, for reasons like this.
[16:17:50]<mark1>rfay, i am only using some optional core modules like taxonomy and upload etc., the only special module is pathauto, i dont think thats a prob
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[16:18:05]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i tried to edit the menu list and change the path there...but i get a message that either the path is invalid or i dont have access to it
[16:18:31]<lucky->how i can update to 6.13 without lost any files from sites?
[16:18:35]<rfay>mark1, no, pathauto won't bother you. The issue would be with a module like node_access or private or taxonomy_access - one of the modules that introduces its own access handling in addition to the standard.
[16:18:42]<lucky->i have 80kphotos
[16:18:51]<lucky->and i can't backup all :S
[16:19:23]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, leave the menu. Go to the node that you want the menu to point to. Add a url alias there. Url Alias = Path.
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[16:19:59]<rfay>lucky, when you update, the files directory is not normally touched. You didn't say what you're updating *from*
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[16:21:24]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; since i am somewhat new..can you tell me how to go to the node
[16:21:46]<rfay>PerryArmstrong: Do you have a page that you want to be the "aboutus" page?
[16:22:02]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; ya
[16:22:23]<rfay>PerryArmstrong: Go to that page and click the "edit" tab. There change the "URL Path" setting to aboutus
[16:22:51]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, and while you're there, you can set the menu, assuming you've given yourself permission to do so.
[16:23:56]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; will be back in a few min's...got a phone call..please dont mind
[16:24:41]<mark1>i have now tried the brute force way, apparently i have to give "administer filters" permission :-\
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[16:25:12]<rfay>mark1, I've seen "administer filters" involved when panels is involved. Using panels?
[16:25:38]<rfay>mark1, looks like you've got it. And your administrators should not be a risk. But it sure is wrong to have to give that to anybody that doesn't need it.
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[16:28:28]<mark1>never heard of panels. and what are those filters anyway? is it the "Filtered HTML"/"Full HTML" etc. stuff?
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[16:29:46]<add1sun>__-osh-__, ok let's talk in here
[16:30:02]<scor>__-osh-__: thanks add1sun :)
[16:30:07]<add1sun>__-osh-__, what appears on your front page right now?
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[16:30:19]<__-osh-__>Ok. I'd love some help anywhere I can get it. =)
[16:30:28]<rfay>mark1, Filters are applied to your node content. So for example, one filter might turn a plain URL into a link. The most important default filters are "filtered html", which only allows a few tags, and "full html", which allows most, and by default cleans some things up.
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[16:30:49]<rfay>mark1, I think you might have a default filter for a content type that your users (even admin) don't have access to.
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[16:31:02]<__-osh-__>add1sun: things that was added prior to the upgrade of drupal core from 6.11 to 6.12.
[16:31:37]<add1sun>__-osh-__, ok, so is it that new things won't go to the front page now?
[16:31:45]<add1sun>but the old stuff is still there?
[16:31:58]<__-osh-__>add1sun: exactly.
[16:32:35]<add1sun>__-osh-__, have you double-checked what the front page is set to
[16:32:42]<add1sun>under site information?
[16:32:46]<rfay>mark1, config of filters is in admin/settings/filters. They're also called "input formats". Under settings for each one is a set of permissions. Perhaps your users aren't on there. I think that's going to be the answer.
[16:33:07]<add1sun>__-osh-__, at admin > site config > site info
[16:33:13]<__-osh-__>add1sun: what's it supposed to be? I think it's set to "node"
[16:33:21]<__-osh-__>add1sun: will check though.
[16:33:36]<add1sun>__-osh-__, yeah the default is node, but i want to make sure that is what it is
[16:33:42]<rfay>mark1, so you have existing content which is using an input format which your "administrators" group does not have permission to use.
[16:33:55]<troythetechguy>New to drupal. Just installed Backup and Migrate for Drupal 6.x, and read the documentation. It is stated I can only backup data I need, and "exclude such as cache or search index tables). Is it safe to exclude "cache" or "search index tables" from my backup?
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[16:34:24]<__-osh-__>add1sun: yes, "node", without quotes.
[16:34:25]<mark1>rfay, I see I actually have filters that *noone* has access to.... My default however is Filtered HTML which by default all users have access to. :\
[16:34:29]<add1sun>troythetechguy, yes, those are dynamically created
[16:34:49]<add1sun>__-osh-__, hm, ok
[16:35:02]<rfay>mark1, "no one" is ok - that means everyone in a strange turn of technological non-communication.
[16:35:41]<troythetechguy>add1sun: Thank you. How can I find out what other data I may safely exclude from my backup, or is it safest to just backup everything but cache and search index tables
[16:35:42]<__-osh-__>add1sun: Slightly annoying. I think there's something in the DB that's been set wrong but I can't figure it out for the life of me.
[16:35:43]<rfay>mark1, I just misspoke. In this case, no one means no one
[16:35:51]<rfay>mark1, so I think you have your answer
[16:36:04]<add1sun>__-osh-__, yeah, i'm trying to run through what it could be
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[16:36:17]<rfay>mark1, the help text even says "Choose which roles may use this filter format. Note that roles with the "administer filters" permission can always use all the filter formats."
[16:36:26]<mark1>rfay, in my opinion those filters simply should not be available to use on the "edit page" page, instead of disallowing access to the edit
[16:36:27]<mark1>or
[16:36:59]<__-osh-__>add1sun: very kind of you.
[16:37:01]<add1sun>__-osh-__, does it show for any user, even user 1 or really just not at all
[16:37:06]<rfay>mark1, they were available before, and got used, so I think that's the issue. They will not be available to these users the way you have it now.
[16:37:27]<__-osh-__>add1sun: new content shows up in RSS-feed, but not on front page.
[16:37:41]<__-osh-__>add1sun: not for any user.
[16:38:04]<__-osh-__>add1sun: away for a little bit. sorry, emergency.
[16:38:09]<add1sun>np
[16:39:05]<mark1>rfay, yeah i see that must be the case. thx a lot for your advice
[16:40:16]<rfay>mark1, good luck. Nice job explaining it and getting it worked out. I learned something too. I haven't run across this case before.
[16:42:39]<Muimi>is it possible to make it so that i can adjust my theme from within my drupal site rather than from within my file manager?
[16:42:42]<Muimi>like a link to edit style.css and styleie6.css and the html files
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[16:44:36]<rfay>Muimi, Do you want to make a small change to your css from within the drupal admin UI?
[16:45:32]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i went to that page but i didnt find any edit tab
[16:45:35]<__-osh-__>My issue is that nothing gets promoted to "node" even though I have no modules installed/running atm. Running 6.13 but this issue was present before that. Probably an upgrade error from 6.11 to 6.12. Is there a way to fix?
[16:45:36]<rfay>Muimi, if so, you might want to try out http://drupal.org/project/css_injector
[16:46:17]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, Have you ever edited a page? Have you created a page? Are you logged in? Do you have permissions to edit pages? That will be the first step. You have to be able to edit/create a page.
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[16:47:08]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i am logged in...i know how to create content and post it to front page...i dont know about permissions
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[16:48:21]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, your user has to have permission to edit content. Are you admin on the site?
[16:48:50]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; yes
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[16:50:31]<kayceedub>hi
[16:50:31]<Druplicon>niihau
[16:51:08]<kayceedub>question about views 1 - is there a way to see what the sql is like how views 2 displays this?
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[16:51:24]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, join me on http://yuuguu.com/share - put in 075910 for the pin. I'll show you what I mean.
[16:51:56]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; yes i am coming
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[16:55:37]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, I see you joined me, but you have to "accept" to view my screen.
[16:56:15]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; its taking time to get that video and i didnt see the accept
[16:56:58]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, it's not a video, it's my screen you'll be seeing, when you "accept" it. But if it's too slow this may not work. Take another look for the accept button.
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[16:57:35]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i should say that its slow....here internet speeds are in a few kbs
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[16:59:31]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, this often works even with relatively slow connections, but maybe we strike out today.
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[17:00:43]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; kk so i have just created a content and pasted it to the front....and when i click home..i get this page...so i want this page to be displayed as abc.com/home
[17:01:16]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, can you edit the page? You want to set the path in "URL Path" settings.
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[17:03:53]<esmerel>kayceedub: no - that's one of the reasons there is views 2
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[17:05:37]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; ya i have edited it
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[17:06:39]<rfay>Great, PerryArmstrong. So does it have the URL home now? If so, you can now use that as a path in the menu.
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[17:08:05]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; it has only Title and Menu link title...input formats etc......actually i edited this under content management system
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[17:09:06]<pragnatek_>what's best way to write a page containing some html and 2 diff views?
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[17:10:23]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, When you edit, is there "URL Path" settings part way down the page? By default it's right below "comment settings' and right above "Authoring information"
[17:10:32]<esmerel>pragnatek_: you can pretty easily put two views in a page if you create teh page with panels:)
[17:11:20]<esmerel>pragnatek_: and you can add custom content, which may deal with your 'some html'
[17:11:32]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; not it isn't there....moreover it shows me that i cannot save changes as it is written by another user though the authored information is my user name
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[17:13:34]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, maybe the path module is not turned on. Please go do admin/build/modules and turn on the path module, which is part of "core: optional". The "can't change because another user has edited" message is probably you in two windows or smething.Or perhaps you previewed instead of saving.
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[17:15:44]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; path is enabled already
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[17:17:00]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; okk shall we start from an example page that we create...i am creating a new content...
[17:17:08]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; and make it as HOME page
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[17:18:05]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, perhaps you don't have permission. Check it on admin/users/permissions. Under path module, you need both permsisions
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[17:18:33]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, you can do experiment with this on any page you create, so feel free to create another one.
[17:19:04]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; yes
[17:19:31]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; page not found for admin/users/permissions
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[17:20:42]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; okk i got it..its /admin/user/permissions
[17:20:49]<rfay>Sorry, PerryArmstrong
[17:21:06]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; but there are 2 types of users specified....authenticated and non-authenticated
[17:21:27]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; np...i dont mind as you are trying to help me
[17:21:28]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, non-auth is a user who hasn't logged in.
[17:21:42]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; yes i understand those terms
[17:22:02]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, if those are the only 2 you have, remember to go in later and add a role called "admin" which has extra privileges. You don't want all auth users to have all privs.
[17:22:47]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, right now since you only have the "auth user" role, grant it permission. That's you. You'll want to grant it to an admin role later, and probably take it away from "auth user"
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[17:24:12]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; no i have logged in as a admin
[17:24:52]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i created a new role for admin and i enabled all permissions
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[17:26:13]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, OK, so now you have a column of permissions for admin, as well as "auth" and "not auto", right.
[17:26:25]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; yes
[17:26:28]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, so now you have permissions on path module.
[17:27:01]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, so now go edit that page and put something in the "URL alias"
[17:28:00]<Fangorn>hello, all
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[17:31:18]<umccullough>hopefully a quick question: Is there a good guide on significantly reducing/eliminating drupal account creation spam?
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[17:33:34]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; there's no URL alias option
[17:34:12]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, Are you using Drupal6?
[17:34:35]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; yes..i think i need to upload the module
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[17:34:47]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, Drupal 6 is not a module.
[17:35:22]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, do you know what version of Drupal you are using? admin/reports/status
[17:35:27]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i mean the url alias.....funny that drupal 6 is a module
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[17:35:38]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i am using drupal-6.12
[17:35:41]<rfay>PerryArmstring, the path module is part of core.
[17:35:50]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, so you don't have to upload it.
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[17:35:57]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i am not sure if i have deleted it
[17:36:21]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, you just saw it in admin/build/modules and you saw the permissions for it in admin/user/permissions
[17:36:58]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i mean in there i just enabled all permissions....i'll check once
[17:37:52]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, you need to start at the beginning, probably, to experiment a bit more with Drupal. Preferably install it on your own computer, use the defaults, experiement with everything to become familiar with it.
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[17:38:57]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i put it in hostmonstor only because the NGO for whom i am doing this has to see the progress i make everyday and moreover i can access it at home, college, or anywhere else
[17:39:05]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i dont have to carry it
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[17:39:38]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, I'm talking about for *learning*, not for developing. You have to figure out a way to make it easier to experiment.
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[17:40:14]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; okk...yes yes....
[17:40:15]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, go ahead and add another subdomain on hostmonster and create a completely dummy drupal install and experiment with that.
[17:40:34]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, have you seen the book "Using Drupal". Have access to it? It's quite good.
[17:40:57]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; well i can experiment with this too...i need to just show the officer that i am doing something everyday...
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[17:41:22]<maozet>any one for ahah help?
[17:41:22]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; that orielly book...yes i have it and even drupal 6 book too
[17:41:36]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; which one do i have to follow
[17:42:50]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, work your way through them with a simple default install. Use a plain vanilla install. Experiment with things. Turn on the path module, see how it works, etc.
[17:43:07]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; is the name of the module alias i am gonna download it
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[17:45:02]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, I wish I could have shown you on my screen. No, if you're using Drupal 6 you do *not* need to add any module to do this. It's the "path" module, and it's part of core.
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[17:45:40]<Kenn_VM>once enable the path.module provide administration ad administer -> url aliases
[17:45:57]<Kenn_VM>the process can be more automatic with pathauto.module
[17:45:59]<Kenn_VM>pathauto?
[17:45:59]<Druplicon>pathauto is for custom defining url aliases http://drupal.org/project/pathauto , read more on http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/pathauto
[17:46:04]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, being part of "core" means that it comes with a drupal install; it has for some time.
[17:46:33]<rfay>Kenn_VM, we weren't trying for anything as fancy as pathauto yet. Just to set a path and then point a menu at it. But we didn't get there.
[17:46:41]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i suppose i have deleted it....i am not sure...is the name of the module "path"...i'll look for it in the modules section
[17:47:17]<Kenn_VM>yes it is called path and it is under core - optional
[17:47:20]<rfay>PerryArmstrong, sorry I have to check out now. Good luck with the learning curve. I know it can be steep. Do set up your own play environment, as you'll be able to learn faster there.
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[17:47:32]<PerryArmstrong>rfay;; can you wait a sec
[17:47:46]<PerryArmstrong>rfay; i wanted to ask one thing
[17:47:59]<PerryArmstrong>is the orielly book the best book
[17:48:03]<wathek_>I'm trying to create a bi-language (french and arabic) web site based on drupal but I need to know how about the RTL ? coz french if and LTR language and Arabic is an RTL language
[17:48:45]<Kenn_VM>perry; all of the books are good. There is some overlap between some of them but ultimate you choose the book that includes the scope you want to learn
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[17:52:03]<PerryArmstrong>Kenn_VM; i need a book which helps me in building a community based website which includes communities as in orkut, sms facility, forums, blogs, calender, event notifications etc....
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[17:55:49]<Michelle>There's a social networking book but I don't know how good it is
[17:57:11]<Kenn_VM>I think thats the robert douglass book from eons ago? or was there another more recent?
[17:57:57]<PerryArmstrong>actually its not just social networking but also professional...
[17:58:55]<nestorconde>anybody knows where in the database are stored the formatter that show in different ways the cck fields?
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[18:00:07]<Kenn_VM>PerryArmstrong, the books explain concepts more so than, get this, install this, do this, to have a social networking site
[18:00:24]<Kenn_VM>you may want to investigate the social networking group at groups.drupal.org
[18:00:31]<PerryArmstrong>Kenn_VM; the most important is configuring them
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[18:01:44]<Kenn_VM>that idea isn't "just" a social networking idea though. and with 4000 modules on drupal.org and more being added every day. I don't think there will ever be a single book to explain every module and their config
[18:02:07]<Kenn_VM>if there was, I wouldn't want to have to get it home : P
[18:02:15]<nestorconde>looks like in content_node_field_instance
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[18:06:03]<Michelle>Kenn_VM - It's fairly recent... From Spring, I think
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[18:06:59]<highvoltage7>I don't suppose module specific questions are ok here are they?
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[18:08:21]<ultrav1olet>I have put my site to offline mode then I've logged off accidentally. How can I put my site back to online mode?
[18:10:52]<Michelle>highvoltage7 - Sure, but you reduce your odds of anyone knowing because no one uses all modules :)
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[18:11:03]<Michelle>ultrav1olet - ?q=user
[18:11:33]<j3sika>ultrav1olet: admin/settings/site-maintenance
[18:12:19]<ultrav1olet>?q=user didn't help
[18:12:28]<ultrav1olet>I used this http://drupal.org/node/56995
[18:12:29]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/56995 => How to log in once you have turned your site off-line for maintenance => 28 IRC mentions
[18:13:29]<Michelle>If you can't login at the user login page, then you've got bigger problems... That page is available even in maint mode
[18:13:36]<ultrav1olet>I suppose this information should be present in UPGRADE.txt ;)
[18:13:57]<ultrav1olet>really? probably I didn't even try - my fault then
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[18:15:03]<Michelle>I believe it says something about making sure you don't logout, but I haven't looked at it in a while
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[18:16:01]<ultrav1olet>I indeed logged out - accidentally
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[18:27:34]<__-osh-__>Nothing gets promoted to "node" even though I have no modules installed/running atm. Running 6.13 but this issue was present before that. Probably an upgrade error from 6.11 to 6.12. Is there a way to fix?
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[18:30:20]<PerryArmstrong>can we have multiple blogs in a website like wordpress or blogspot
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[18:32:20]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: yes
[18:32:32]<Kenn_VM>you can have multiple blogs or you can tag the blogs with taxonomy from a single blog
[18:32:37]<Kenn_VM>thus giving it categories
[18:33:07]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: you can have multiple blogs, you can also have multiple users posting to one (or more) blogs if you wish
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[18:33:54]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: the blog module (part of core - optional modules) provides one blog per user, or you can setup other sorts of blogs as individual content types for example
[18:33:58]<PerryArmstrong>ohh that means for eg. like i can 2 types of blog...Microsoft, LINUX....under linux other types of blogs like Fedora, ubuntu etc... did you mean that way....sorts of hierarchial
[18:34:19]<Kenn_VM>yes
[18:34:21]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: it's up to you... you can do pretty much whatever you want
[18:34:58]<PerryArmstrong>i am looking to have both features...as said by marsilainen, kenn_VM
[18:35:08]<Kenn_VM>you can
[18:35:23]<Kenn_VM>the heirarchal part come from taxonomy
[18:35:39]<Kenn_VM>you can create a new blog content type if you so choose, though I don't see the need
[18:35:45]<Kenn_VM>but it can be done
[18:35:50]<marsilainen>I agree with Kenn_VM, you would want to use a heirarchal taxonomy to achieve it the best I would say
[18:35:55]<Kenn_VM>administer -> content types -> add content type
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[18:36:23]<marsilainen>I would add a new content type for the blog, to keep those nodes separate from other content on your site, for ease of using views etc
[18:36:35]<marsilainen>then use taxonomy for the different categories
[18:37:00]<PerryArmstrong>like if someone starts a blog on Ubuntu...can i as an admin create a new blog type called linux and include Ubuntu under it
[18:37:23]<PerryArmstrong>and he can add as many users as he wishes
[18:37:24]<marsilainen>then you can see all posts if you go to: yoursite.com/blog or just see the linux posts at: yoursite.com/blog/linux and see the fedora ones at: yoursite.com/blog/linux/fedora for example
[18:37:59]<PerryArmstrong>so the blogs can be moved around easily
[18:38:06]<marsilainen>PerryArmstrong: hmm, what you want is a bit more complex, but it could be done, yes
[18:38:23]<PerryArmstrong>thanks to both of you
[18:38:26]<Kenn_VM>I don't understand the idea of adding "users"
[18:38:34]<Kenn_VM>drupal works on a role based permissions system
[18:38:59]<marsilainen>Kenn_VM: I presume that he means that whoever creates the blog can then select which users would be able to post to it
[18:39:15]<marsilainen>which is doable - but probably need to create some custom forms with logic
[18:40:02]<Kenn_VM>agreed but correct me if I am wrong, out of the box, you can only choose what roles can view it, and based on where his questions are going, it may actually be better to use groups
[18:40:09]<Kenn_VM>rather than content types
[18:40:17]<PerryArmstrong>yes what marsilainen said is what i meant
[18:40:56]<marsilainen>Kenn_VM: I'm not certain of the best way to do it, I think maybe using something like 'taxonomy access control' might be the way to go
[18:41:08]<Kenn_VM>hmmm
[18:41:10]<Kenn_VM>okeedoke
[18:41:21]<marsilainen>Kenn_VM: so that then each blog is given a taxonomy term and use something like that to control who can post to it, but I'm not certain
[18:41:28]<marsilainen>maybe there is some better way
[18:41:44]<Kenn_VM>the "users" part was a throw in I didn't expect
[18:41:46]<marsilainen>certainly this isn't trivial out of the box
[18:41:51]<marsilainen>needs some though
[18:41:53]<marsilainen>thought
[18:42:03]<marsilainen>anyway, got to go
[18:42:07]<marsilainen>back later guys, have fun
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[18:43:03]<PerryArmstrong>yes thank you.....
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[18:44:53]<fyn>i'm considering giving out a few drupal sites, but it looks like i'd be shooting myself in the foot since upgrades are going to be a pain
[18:45:10]<fyn>do i really need to disable all third party modules on all sites?
[18:45:24]<Kenn_VM>if upgrading from major version to major version yes
[18:45:28]<Kenn_VM>if minor to minor no
[18:45:37]<Kenn_VM>ie: drupal 5 to Drupal 6
[18:45:39]<Kenn_VM>yes
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[18:45:40]<fyn>gotcha
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[18:45:48]<Kenn_VM>drupal 6.12 - Drupal 6.13 no
[18:46:08]<fyn>i'm on 6 anyhow, and imagine upgrading to 7 is going to need some tweaking on each site
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[18:46:27]<Kenn_VM>7.x will break themes and contrib modules
[18:46:39]<Kenn_VM>this switching to a core theme, and disabling all contrib modules will be needed
[18:46:47]<Kenn_VM>thus*
[18:47:01]<fyn>is there any timeline for an estimated release of 7? i imagine 6 will stick around a while 'cause 5 isn't even end of life yet?
[18:47:16]<Kenn_VM>6 will be around until Drupal 8 is released
[18:47:20]<Kenn_VM>no time line for 7
[18:47:28]<Kenn_VM>codefreeze is scheduled for September
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[18:47:40]<Kenn_VM>My best guess, early 2010
[18:47:46]<fyn>cool, thanks.
[18:47:59]<highvoltage7>feels like drupal 6 still hasn't really gotten on it's feet yet
[18:48:06]<highvoltage7>maybe that's just due to my needs though...
[18:48:27]<Kenn_VM>not sure what "gotten on it's feet" means
[18:48:52]<highvoltage7>all the major modules ready for action
[18:49:12]<highvoltage7>for those of us that aren't programmers
[18:49:32]<highvoltage7>anyway, does anyone here use content profile?
[18:49:46]<highvoltage7>it's the final stumbling block to releasing my site
[18:49:51]<highvoltage7>>_<
[18:49:57]<threexk>Is it bad to run cron jobs as the system's apache user?
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[18:50:56]<Kenn_VM>afaik, all "major" modules have a D6 release in some capacity, those modules that aren't updated at this point have likely died on the vine or been replaced by other modules
[18:51:33]<threexk>Computed Field is still beta
[18:51:34]<Kenn_VM>and with regards to D7, there is a commitment from contrib developers to have their modules updated to D7, which can be seen on project pages if they are following suit
[18:51:52]<Kenn_VM>beta or not, it's been ported
[18:52:24]<Kenn_VM>updated to D7, when the D7 release is ready, i meant to day
[18:52:26]<Kenn_VM>say*
[18:52:29]<fyn>are the fckeditor/imce modules going to die and i should use wysiwyg 3beta since that's where things are goin?
[18:52:47]<fyn>looking for minimal long term hassles
[18:53:03]<Kenn_VM>thats dependant on the maintainers of the specific modules.
[18:53:07]<Kenn_VM>I'm sticking with the api
[18:53:24]<Kenn_VM>mostly because that developer is active in many things including core
[18:53:36]<fyn>is the beta pretty solid?
[18:53:37]<highvoltage7>Kenn, panels isnt finish, content profile isnt finish, private messages... not finished
[18:53:55]<Kenn_VM>panels works fine
[18:54:00]<Kenn_VM>I use it on most every site
[18:54:01]<egoleo_>hello
[18:54:01]<Druplicon>privet
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[18:54:08]<Kenn_VM>matter of fact I'm using 3.x-dev
[18:54:16]<egoleo_>does anyone know how i can access webform fields with views?
[18:54:24]<highvoltage7>yeah well kenn, non-programmers dont have the luxury of knowing when it's useable on a live site until they're told it is
[18:54:32]<Kenn_VM>Im not a programmer
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[18:54:35]<Kenn_VM>I test them on test site
[18:54:42]<Kenn_VM>when they work for what I need
[18:54:44]<Kenn_VM>I deploy them
[18:54:48]<highvoltage7><_<
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[18:54:53]<highvoltage7>that seems dangerous
[18:55:08]<Kenn_VM>if you say so
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[18:55:21]<highvoltage7>I had a test site go bonkers from using a beta module
[18:55:24]<Kenn_VM>based on whos developing the port, I take that into consideration
[18:55:50]<Kenn_VM>if a test site does bonkers, obviously, it shouldn't be used and the bug reported
[18:56:00]<Kenn_VM>my way isn't going to be everyones way
[18:56:06]<highvoltage7>meh
[18:56:13]<Kenn_VM>but I've had no issues in over 2.5 years
[18:56:27]<Kenn_VM>started with D 4.7.6 and all sites are now at D6
[18:56:34]<highvoltage7>well, not all of us are as experienced
[18:56:40]<highvoltage7>anyway, does anybody use content profile then?
[18:56:47]<Kenn_VM>yes
[18:56:51]<highvoltage7>have a question about it that nobody will answer -_-
[18:56:53]<highvoltage7>ah
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[18:57:15]<Kenn_VM>doesn't mean I can answer the question you have, but I'll give it my attention
[18:57:30]<highvoltage7>does it give you a redirect/stay within user profile after you save the content profile edit form?
[18:57:50]<highvoltage7>like you have [account] and [profile type] subtabs
[18:58:07]<highvoltage7>when i say the profile type form... it actually takes me to the node of that type
[18:58:12]<highvoltage7>rather than staying within the user profile
[18:58:15]<highvoltage7>is that normal?
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[18:58:33]<highvoltage7>save the profile type form*
[18:58:34]<Kenn_VM>as far as I know that is default behavior, may want to look into global redirect mdoule
[18:58:39]<Kenn_VM>global_redirect?
[18:58:45]<Kenn_VM>globalredirect?
[18:58:45]<Druplicon>globalredirect is http://drupal.org/project/globalredirect
[18:58:57]<highvoltage7>it allows you to set redirects for forms/nodes?
[18:59:05]<Kenn_VM>ahhh nope that woon't be it
[18:59:35]<highvoltage7>like, I don't want the users viewing that separate node outside of the user profile
[18:59:47]<Fangorn>i have question about ubercart+contemplates with using attributes
[18:59:56]<Kenn_VM>that may be a feature request against the module in quetsion
[19:00:08]<highvoltage7>I've asked about it there some time ago
[19:00:17]<highvoltage7>the issues over there are pretty inactive
[19:00:23]<egoleo_>anyone to help me with views+webform
[19:00:30]<highvoltage7>well, relatively inactive
[19:00:32]<Fangorn>when i output print $node->content['add_to_cart']["#value"]; - it output button add to cart
[19:01:18]<Fangorn>and when I add attributes to ubercarts node - it output attributes and button
[19:01:26]<Fangorn>but with errors
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[19:01:48]<Kenn_VM>fago, is a responsible developer however with regards to D7 and all the work going into core, his time may be limited for expanded feature sets. Bounties can be taken up
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[19:02:08]<Fangorn>recoverable fatal error: Object of class stdClass could not be converted to string in /home/bla-bla.ru/public_html/includes/bootstrap.inc on line 768.
[19:02:10]<Kenn_VM>or patches supplied by others if they find they need the feature. At this point I think you've done all you can
[19:02:11]<Kenn_VM>do
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[19:02:32]<Fangorn>or warning: preg_match() expects parameter 2 to be string, object given in /home/bla-bla.ru/public_html/includes/bootstrap.inc on line 771.
[19:02:45]<Kenn_VM>I don't know how well contemplate works with ubercart
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[19:03:00]<Kenn_VM>the ubercart community at ubercart.org may be better suited for this question
[19:03:23]<Brina11471>Howdy.
[19:03:23]<Druplicon>bonjour
[19:03:30]<Michelle>highvoltage7 - What you're wanting it to do is the normal functionality, so your best bet is to play around with the settings until you figure out what's interferring
[19:03:38]<Kenn_VM>I don't use contemplate any longer and believe its pretty set for deprecation with how advanced devel.module is getting
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[19:04:15]<Brina11471>I was wondering if there were any websites to find Drupal Developers that could execute a theme design
[19:05:28]<Kenn_VM>Brina11471: mosgt any freelance site + the paid services forum on drupal.org + drupal.org/drupal-services
[19:06:04]<Fangorn>Kenn_VM: #drupal-ubercart is very deserted place...
[19:06:09]<highvoltage7>I think i've covered all possible settings i know exist michelle, i've been messing with it for like two weeks now, but I'll take another look at it...
[19:06:17]<Kenn_VM>I didn't say #drupal-ubercart
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[19:06:25]<Kenn_VM>I said, ubercart.org
[19:06:47]<Kenn_VM>they have their own support community there as well a lot of already existing documentation
[19:06:55]<Michelle>highvoltage7 - I don't know what to tell you... For me, it just works that way by default
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[19:07:50]<Michelle>Ok, need to focus again
[19:08:05]<Brina11471>Kenn_VM: Thank you, any recommended freelance site that you could recommend? I tried elance and got junk
[19:08:15]<Kenn_VM>nope
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[19:08:17]<fyn> I'm trying to display a block beside our software with version, links to download packages, release notes, current version, etc. Just a view outputting some cck fields.
[19:08:30]<fyn>I've got the block displaying only for the software content type and can see the fields.
[19:08:45]<fyn>And I can style the block with css.
[19:09:01]<fyn>But how do I categorise the fields under a few headings?
[19:10:26]<fyn>i really don't want to break it up into 4 or 5 blocks
[19:11:28]<ultra_>hmm... anyone here know how to make a view display mini panels? is it possible?
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[19:17:52]<Brina11471>ultra_: mini panels?
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[19:21:20]<Kenn_VM>mini panels is part of the panels module
[19:21:30]<Kenn_VM>panels?
[19:21:30]<Druplicon>Panels is the best thing to come along since sliced bread. Panels is at http://drupal.org/project/panels
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[19:27:58]<ultra_>Kenn_VM: yeah, any idea how I can make views show them?
[19:28:25]<Kenn_VM>I don't know that you "make views show them" aren't views supposed to be put into them?
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[19:29:08]<ultra_>yes, you can do that, but I was under the impression you could make views show minipanels for all of the items it finds too
[19:29:20]<ultra_>maybe I was totally wrong
[19:30:10]<Brina11471>ultra_: I am not aware of any significant formatting solutions for Views results beyond CSS. I had looked into something similar to this a while back, YMMV
[19:31:20]<Kenn_VM>ultra_ hang on
[19:31:42]<Michelle>Minipanels are like blocks... What you're asking doesn't make a lot of sense
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[19:32:12]<ultra_>Michelle: I thought since you can make a minipanel display a node you could make several mini panels display results from views
[19:33:09]<Michelle>You can put views into mini panels... Putting mini panels into views would take custom coding, afaik
[19:33:27]<ultra_>Michelle: ok
[19:33:46]<ultra_>well, is Brina11471 right and there's basically no good customization for views outputs? if so I'm screwed...
[19:36:11]<Michelle>No, you can customize views a ton. I'm just saying you aren't going to be able to do that thru the UI
[19:36:52]<Michelle>I did something similar with putting Author Pane into a view... In the template, I put a call to the theme function in place of the UID
[19:37:32]<Michelle>That was in D5, though. Views 2 is even more flexible... You could actually write a custom field that loads the mini panel
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[19:40:56]<fyn>Michelle: could i use views 2 to output some headings into my block to separate a bunch of cck fields that i'm displaying?
[19:41:02]<ultra_>Michelle: ah, well how'd you do that?
[19:42:39]<Michelle>fyn - You can make a view of cck fields and then call the view in code from a custom block
[19:42:47]<Michelle>ultra_ - How'd I do what?
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[19:43:52]<ultra_>Michelle: make it display Author Panes in a view
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[19:44:18]<Michelle>I told you... "In the template, I put a call to the theme function in place of the UID"
[19:44:40]<ultra_>Michelle: ok, I"m a newb, what template? :P
[19:44:59]<ultra_>and is this template compatible with CCK and the like?
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[19:45:52]<Michelle>In the views template.
[19:46:07]<ultra_>Michelle: I'd keep asking questions but I'll RTFM instead...
[19:46:09]<ultra_>views?
[19:46:09]<Druplicon>views is a query builder for Drupal that lets you control your content display. Project: http://drupal.org/project/views | API: http://views.doc.logrus.com | Help: http://views-help.doc.logrus.com | Views 1 API: http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/views/api | Views 1 Theming: http://drupal.org/node/42597 | Views 1 Snippets: http://drupal.org/node/47412
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[19:46:36]<Michelle>Sorry, I can't get real in depth here. I've barely dipped into views 2 theming myself and was just passing thru the channel
[19:47:01]<ultra_>Michelle: no problem, but this is very interesting, thank you.
[19:47:07]<Michelle>np
[19:57:37]<__-osh-__>After upgrade no content is published to the front page (node) but the content is availible through the RSS-feed. What could be wrong?
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[20:04:32]<Kenn_VM>upgrade from what version to what version?
[20:05:10]<nomad411>Any suggestions for having a site with open membership availability but still some good SPAM control? Some magical module? :)
[20:06:05]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: 6.11 to 6.12. Now I
[20:06:19]<__-osh-__>'m on 6.13 but the situation didn't improve.
[20:06:43]<Kenn_VM>try clearing cache in administer -> performance
[20:07:06]<Kenn_VM>what is the front page showing if not content?
[20:07:11]<Kenn_VM>did you run update.php?
[20:07:34]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: Cache cleared. No change.
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[20:08:05]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: The front page is showing content from pre-upgrade. New content doesn't show up there.
[20:08:12]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: It shows up in RSS though.
[20:08:23]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: And yes, I did run update.php.
[20:08:53]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: But I suspect that the CCK-module screwed something up.
[20:09:08]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: It's not enabled now but it doesn't seem to matter.
[20:09:40]<Kenn_VM>check that the content types that are supposed to be published to the front page have promote to front page checked
[20:09:46]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: the CCK-module I mean
[20:09:55]<Kenn_VM>what version of CCk?
[20:10:17]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: Yes. Published to front-page is ticked and I've tried to re-published it but nothing changed.
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[20:10:38]<Kenn_VM>and I presume you are logged in as 1st created user?
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[20:11:24]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: I don't remember which version of CCK caused errors and I haven't installed any version in 6.13 yet.
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[20:11:37]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: Yes. User 1.
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[20:13:11]<highvoltage7>HAHA I found it!!!
[20:13:29]<highvoltage7>the me aliases module screws up the redirect on the profile page -_-
[20:13:41]<highvoltage7>I could have sworn I tested that already and it still didn't work
[20:13:47]<highvoltage7>but I guess missed that one
[20:14:08]<Kenn_VM>out of idea, __-osh-__
[20:14:46]<__-osh-__>Kenn_VM: ok. thanks for trying. =)
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[20:17:10]<DrPlacebo>hey folks. wondering if anyone can help. Im using the advanced forum module... but the way in which people reply doesnt seem to be right
[20:17:14]<DrPlacebo>http://www.final.thelondonvandal.com/forum/topic/info-and-help/new-forum...
[20:17:22]<DrPlacebo>they have to choose comment
[20:17:24]<DrPlacebo>whats wrong there?
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[20:22:09]<__-osh-__>DrPlacebo: would love to but I don't use that module and currently my drupal installation is FUBAR.
[20:23:52]<highvoltage7>anyway, thanks for the help michelle and Kenn
[20:23:55]<highvoltage7>im off
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[20:24:22]<__-osh-__>My error... http://drupal.org/node/489828
[20:24:23]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/489828 => Error after upgrade. => Drupal, update system, normal, active, 8 IRC mentions
[20:24:45]<boobaa>Kenn_VM: thanks for your tip about cck+filefield+swftools, was quite easy to implement, uploading content took quite long ;) - but works nicely: even with views. thanks!
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[20:25:35]<Kenn_VM>boobaa: your're welcome
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[20:29:55]<Brandon>how do i place an avatar next to the post title?
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[20:31:55]<fyn>is there a way to search the admin menus?
[20:32:14]<fyn>too much in there, hard to find where stuff is
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[20:33:54]<dane>Hi Gang, Do I have the array count available to me inside the view template where the foreach code runs by default for the data? I need to change it out for a c style loop, and create an outer and inner loop for my view theme
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[20:38:38]<Kenn_VM>fyn: no
[20:39:06]<Kenn_VM>you get used to it afterwhile, though D7UX is supposed to be working on making it easier to find "stuff
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[20:40:45]<DrPlacebo>fyn, there is a modeul that makes a nice menu appear at the top of your drupal site
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[20:44:44]<Brandon>i want to place a field in my sidebar for e-mail addresses so people can get a weekly newsletter
[20:44:50]<Brandon>what's the easiest/best way to do this?
[20:45:25]<fyn>i remember seeing a pretty well developed mailing list module floating around
[20:45:45]<fyn>if it doesn't already export a block, it probably wouldn't be too too hard to make one
[20:46:15]<osh_>Brandon: My guess would be CCK+Views. It can do lots of things I'm told.
[20:46:43]<Brandon>thanks guys
[20:48:23]<fyn>http://drupal.org/project/simplenews
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[20:54:24]<Kenn_VM>DrPlacebo: you mean the nicemenus module?
[20:54:26]<Kenn_VM>nice_menus?
[20:54:26]<Druplicon>nice_menus are suckerfish menus for drupal http://drupal.org/project/nice_menus
[20:55:34]<DrPlacebo>Kenn_VM, thats the one
[20:55:38]<DrPlacebo>i think :S
[20:55:55]<DrPlacebo>anyoen have any ideas on my forum issue?
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[20:59:42]<Kenn_VM>re explain the issue with forums?
[20:59:49]<Kenn_VM>you want anon users to be able to comment?
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[21:12:56]<antoniotorres>I'm having an issue, Inside Views - I am clicking Rescan Template Files but it's not hightlighting the file I just created on my current theme's folder
[21:13:10]<antoniotorres>is there any common reason it'd do that?
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[21:15:42]<Kenn_VM>I believe the idea is to give you reccomendations from the views folder, once it's moved to your theme, views is done with it
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[21:16:26]<esmerel>views should check the theme and the views folder.
[21:16:45]<antoniotorres>for some reason it's not, and the file is there
[21:17:00]<esmerel>are you on 2.6?
[21:17:16]<esmerel>(most recent release version)
[21:17:47]<antoniotorres>2.2
[21:18:00]<antoniotorres>I guess I should update
[21:18:06]<esmerel>are you using an admin theme that's different than your site theme?
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[21:18:15]<antoniotorres>no
[21:18:18]<esmerel>Hm.
[21:18:37]<esmerel>cuz that was a problem before 2.6 :)
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[21:18:56]<antoniotorres>gonna try 2.6
[21:19:00]<antoniotorres>small view anyway
[21:19:02]<esmerel>ok :)
[21:19:23]<ultra_>is it not possible to declare functions in a view template?
[21:20:13]<ultra_>every time I try to declare one, it tells me that, when I close the function it's already declared at the start of the function... how does that make any sense...
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[21:20:24]<ultra_>ex:
[21:20:25]<ultra_>Fatal error: Cannot redeclare showmethis() (previously declared in /var/www/sites/watchmovieworld.limeskull.org/themes/garland/func.php:2) in /var/www/sites/watchmovieworld.limeskull.org/themes/garland/func.php on line 4
[21:21:40]<neilnz>ultra_: it'll be including the template twice
[21:21:59]<neilnz>try if (!function_exists('showmethis')) { function showmethis().... }
[21:22:04]<ultra_>neilnz: ah, yes, that's the problem :) hmm... how am I to solve this? do something like.... yeah, that...
[21:22:18]<ultra_>uggh, feels like a dirty hack
[21:22:20]<neilnz>or put it in template.php, you shouldn't really be putting functions in a view template anyway
[21:22:33]<ultra_>alright, yeah, that's what I'll do ;)
[21:22:51]<ultra_>thanks
[21:22:55]<neilnz>np
[21:23:01]<neilnz>good luck with your efforts :)
[21:25:11]<Jacen>How do I access data submitted via a Form API form? Please see line 102 of http://pastebin.com/d7ba38b1a
[21:25:29]<ultra_>ok, I think I'll wait till we actually start doing the template porting work before I start writing views templates then ;)
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[21:27:10]<JessicaD>Hi! Can someone advise me about a message board module? I need one where you can add advertisements and people can react with a contact form
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[21:28:09]<Jacen>Jessica: do you need a contact form to send email? or do people just need to be able to post on the message board?
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[21:29:42]<JessicaD>Jacen: People should be able to react on a message but not like the normal reaction form in drupal (where other people can see your reaction) but in a mailform way. So people click on the react button and they have to fill in a reaction form
[21:29:50]<JessicaD>that will be send to the author of the messahe
[21:29:52]<JessicaD>message
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[21:32:13]<Jacen>Jessica: you could use the contact module and turn on personal contact form
[21:32:39]<Jacen>then every post author would have a contact form
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[21:33:57]<JessicaD>Hmmm I don't think that is exactly what I was looking for
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[21:36:02]<Jacen>jessica: otherwise, I don't have a good answer for you. I'd be tempted to write a custom block / custom module
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[21:37:47]<rhythmDude>Hi All. Does anyone know how to change the "Home" text in the breadcrumb trail? I just want to change it to say "Library Home"
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[21:42:34]<antoniotorres>there's no way views will detect any alternate template files, can someone help
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[21:48:52]<fyn>Is there a template for grouping cck fields in views by their field groups?
[21:48:54]<neilnz>antoniotorres: are you getting it to rescan?
[21:49:02]<Kenn_VM>rhythmDude: try the striing overrides module
[21:49:06]<Kenn_VM>stringoverrides?
[21:49:06]<Druplicon> a quick and easy way to replace text on the site http://drupal.org/project/stringoverrides
[21:50:26]<neilnz>antoniotorres: in D6, in the view, clikc "Theme: Information" and see if that picks up the template. There's a "Rescan template files" button in there
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[21:52:53]<antoniotorres>neilnz: I am clicking it but it doesn't highlight
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[21:53:04]<neilnz>antoniotorres: what doesn't?
[21:53:08]<neilnz>can you see your template file name?
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[21:57:26]<spat>I am using views showing mutliple items of a field, how can I make it output those items horizontally instead of vertically?
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[22:02:35]<antoniotorres>neilnz: I created a file using the suggested name on views, pasted the default code in it, uploaded it and hit rescan and it doesnt highlight
[22:03:24]<neilnz>are you sure you put the file in the folder of your active theme?
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[22:11:42]<marsilainen>antoniotorres: sometimes those highlights don't seem to work... I have some views where the highlight doesn't highlight the file I've created, but it *is* working (I can make changes to the file and they are used)
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[22:13:46]<marsilainen>antoniotorres: my best advice is to make some changes in your version of the template and see if they get picked up or not
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[22:14:40]<marsilainen>antoniotorres: also, don't forget to flush your theme registry and note that if your theme is a sub-theme then you'll need to have the same filename existing in the main theme that it's based on
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[22:20:14]<mirra>is there a simple way to xss filter all form elements on a given form, or is it done automatically?
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[22:27:43]<xur1z>what are good modules / methods for browsing a taxonomy where each level may contain both terms and nodes?
[22:27:54]<xur1z>i have a view set up, but need to provide the taxonomy browsing as well
[22:28:35]<xur1z>i think UC's method is a good approach, but it is all custom functions
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[22:29:47]<CRAZyBUg>Hi, i am searching for someone who can help me running drupal with album photos and dfgallery on lighttpd :)
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[22:42:24]<Jacen>I'm building a custom page with Form API. How can I access the values of the form elements outside of the _submit() function?
[22:42:46]<BrandTim>Jacen: where, specifically?
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[22:44:57]<Jacen>BrandTime: my module has a page_callback function. I'd like to access the form elements' values in there.
[22:45:36]<Jacen>BrandTim: I can pull the values out of $GLOBALS['post'] but that seems very undrupal
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[22:46:22]<BrandTim>Jacen: yeah - it is un-Drupal. it's also un-Drupal just to want to access those values in that place. why not save them to the db then retreive them?
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[22:52:02]<Jacen>BrandTim: its for a custom search form. Saving to / retrieving from the DB seems inefficient.
[22:52:22]<BrandTim>Jacen: there are hooks for developing a custom search
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[22:52:53]<betz>Hey everyone!
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[22:53:14]<Jacen>BrandTim: I am building to this design: http://www.hazanco.com/client/tgoat/tgoat_search_results.html
[22:53:29]<Jacen>BrandTim: how would you recommend building that page?
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[22:54:06]<BrandTim>view?
[22:54:08]<BrandTim>views?
[22:54:08]<Druplicon>views is a query builder for Drupal that lets you control your content display. Project: http://drupal.org/project/views | API: http://views.doc.logrus.com | Help: http://views-help.doc.logrus.com | Views 1 API: http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/views/api | Views 1 Theming: http://drupal.org/node/42597 | Views 1 Snippets: http://drupal.org/node/47412
[22:54:22]<BrandTim>Jacen: views will do all of that for you from the UI
[22:54:46]<BrandTim>with the possible exception of the 'keyword' search
[22:54:56]<xur1z>brandtim: do you know the right path to get a taxonomy browser showing child terms as well as child nodes?
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[22:55:25]<BrandTim>xur1z: I don't think there is a path for that. have you tried using views arguments for that?
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[22:55:38]<xur1z>sorry, by path i meant method :)
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[22:56:20]<xur1z>i'm trying to see how to configure views to do that. no luck so far. if there are node results, views doesn't show the child terms.
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[22:57:38]<Jacen>BrandTim: the keyword search field needs to search against title, a cck textfield and a taxonomy vocab. Can you point me to some docs on how to do that in views?
[22:57:39]<BrandTim>xur1z: can you elaborate a bit on what you're trying to acheive? do you want a list of nodes and/or node terms?
[22:57:42]<mirra>how can you login a user from within a module?
[22:58:09]<xur1z>brandtim: basically, i want the ubercart view where the term's subcategories appear above the term's nodes
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[22:58:53]<xur1z>brandtim: i know how UC does it, but i'm sure this must be a common enough use that ppl would have made a module or example to suit in drupal space too
[22:58:55]<BrandTim>Jacen: http://views.doc.logrus.com/ Those are the full API docs. Off the top of my head I'm not sure which hook to use
[22:59:13]<Jacen>mirra: look at the code sample http://acquia.com/blog/migrating-drupal-way-part-i-creating-node#comment...
[22:59:58]<Jacen>mirra: I think I did it with user_authenticate( array('name'=>$user_data['name'], 'pass'=>$user_data['pass']) );
[23:00:00]<BrandTim>xur1z: what about a view of nodes and a custom node-content_type.tpl.php file which outputs the terms related to that node?
[23:00:10]<Jacen>user_authenticate()?
[23:00:45]<mirra>Jacen, thanks i'll check em out
[23:01:29]<xur1z>brandtim: i'll rephrase. for any given term, i want to produce two lists (as applicable): (1) child terms (2) child nodes
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[23:02:33]<BrandTim>xur1z:so that would be two separate lists (i.e., two views exposed as blocks put next to each other?) or one list with two list items per term?
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[23:03:21]<xur1z>the former
[23:03:22]<xur1z>i guess that would make sense, yes. so i just need to insert the list of terms block above the list of nodes block in my existing view?
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[23:04:53]<BrandTim>xur1z: that would work
[23:05:37]<xur1z>thanks, i'll try that. i guess i just figured it would be a common enough use that there'd be a checkbox ;)
[23:07:17]<BrandTim>xur1z: everyone thinks that their use case is common enough that there should be a checkbox. after your 20th drupal site, you'll realize which are the truely common use cases. ;-)
[23:08:27]<xur1z>i must be a slow learner, this is about my 24th :P
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[23:17:19]<betz>Anyone knows a module like content_access where i can set access control settings per node, but with bulk editing possibilities. The best would be that it can be changed from the content administration panel itself. So the same way you can publish and unpublish nodes on admin/content/node
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[23:22:26]<BrandTim>betz: you can create a similar interface with views_bulk_operations so you might be able to tie in the permissions to views
[23:24:22]<betz>BrandTim: yeah, just saw the module, but i think the actions are the same as the inhouse content editing page. And there are no content_access actions. Or am i missing something?
[23:26:18]<BrandTim>betz: I misread your earlier post. I thought you only needed the content_access permissions to determine who could use the publish actions
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[23:27:36]<betz>but the views_bulk_operations module is very interesting. If only i could add a new feature of the content_access module to it.
[23:27:55]<BrandTim>betz: it might have hooks
[23:29:31]<betz>anuway i think if i could make a patch for the content_access module so it adds the action to the content administration interface, it will be available to the views_bulk_operations module automatically
[23:30:36]<dekita>hook_node_operations?
[23:30:36]<Druplicon>hook_node_operations: Add mass node operations. => hook_node_operations() => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/hook_node_operations/6
[23:30:46]<dekita>betz: ^ ?
[23:31:13]<betz>ah nice, and will it also work with the content_access module?
[23:31:22]<dekita>no idea
[23:31:24]<dekita>try?
[23:31:24]<Druplicon>try it out and see if it works
[23:31:27]<dekita>:)
[23:31:29]<betz>:)
[23:31:36]<betz>yeah, will do. ty
[23:31:40]<dekita>np
[23:31:58]<dekita>hook_user_operations?
[23:31:58]<Druplicon>hook_user_operations: Add mass user operations. => hook_user_operations() => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/hook_user_operations/6
[23:32:05]<dekita>is the user sibling function
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[23:35:51]<betz>on http://drupal.org/project/content_access there is written 'Yet another node access module.'. Anyone knows similar module?
[23:36:00]<betz>node
[23:36:05]<betz>ow sorry
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[23:43:31]<mrfenix>is anyone using CCK Imagefield and views to make a gallery?
[23:43:39]<betz>yeah
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[23:43:43]<betz>the best! ;)
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[23:43:50]<ultra_>hey, anyone know if there's already a module to display content counts (ex: X many posts Y users, etc) or if I finally get to write one :)
[23:43:52]<mrfenix>Yeah!! :D
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[23:44:11]<ultra_>can I do it with views somehow?
[23:44:39]<betz>ultra_: you want to show the total number of results in a view, is it that?
[23:44:59]<ultra_>betz: of several different things
[23:45:04]<mrfenix>betz: have you been able to make it so that you can create albums with Imagefield?
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[23:45:21]<betz>ultra_: but always with a view?
[23:45:29]<ultra_>like, I want 2 content types I've made, and users and comments, all their counts I want to show in a block on the site
[23:45:33]<activelyOUT>hi is there an equivalent to account type
[23:45:38]<betz>mrfenix: yeah, you can use taxonomy for that
[23:46:10]<ultra_>betz: well, all I want to do is display that text in a block saying the counts of different types.
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[23:46:21]<betz>ultra_: found this http://thedrupalblog.com/displaying-total-number-results-view-and-how-ma...
[23:46:33]<betz>ultra_: you could use views for making that block then
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[23:48:05]<mrfenix>betz: any pointers? So would each taxonomy term be an album title?
[23:48:13]<betz>yep
[23:48:19]<mrfenix>*confused*
[23:48:21]<mrfenix>lol
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[23:48:25]<mrfenix>Nice!!
[23:48:41]<betz>and then you create a view that shows all images filtered by that term
[23:49:07]<betz>and other view that shows all album terms for example
[23:49:07]<mrfenix>easy peazy!
[23:49:24]<betz>indeedy
[23:49:34]<mrfenix>shot betz!
[23:50:08]<ultra_>betz: thanks, I'll check it out
[23:50:14]<betz>np
[23:50:45]<mrfenix>One thing... I would like users to be able to name the image ablum themselves. So would they have access to creating taxonomy terms?
[23:51:11]<betz>yeah
[23:51:30]<betz>other way of deoing it and avoiding taxonomy is by node_reference
[23:51:46]<mrfenix>Hahahaha!! You know how I've been sitting for hours trying to work this out. lmao!
[23:52:07]<betz>so you have a content type 'albums' and other contenttype 'photos'
[23:52:07]<mrfenix>Its 2am and I have a site due for later this morning for launch. lol!
[23:52:27]<betz>know the feeling :)
[23:52:42]<betz>from where are you? its 2 am here also :)
[23:53:01]<ultra_>betz: I don't need to count the total number in a view, just the total amount of content, I was wondering if I could use views to count all the content and display the numbers
[23:53:22]<mrfenix>South Africa! I have my lion sitting right next to me. ;)
[23:53:22]<mrfenix>you?
[23:53:22]<Druplicon>you are awsome
[23:53:39]<mrfenix>shut up Druplicon!
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[23:54:30]<betz>ultra_: but you could make a view that does a query for all content, but shows nothing but the number of results. But yeah maybe it's a LITTLE bit overkill for that :)
[23:54:37]<betz>mrfenix: belgium
[23:54:43]<betz>botsnack!
[23:54:43]<Druplicon>thanks betz; can you pass the mayo?
[23:54:49]<betz>mayo!
[23:54:49]<Druplicon>mayo is the devil.
[23:55:22]<ultra_>betz: lol, yeah, is there something that exists or is it finally time to crack open some module writing docs? :D
[23:55:44]<betz>ultra_: maybe http://drupal.org/project/hof ?
[23:56:04]<betz>http://drupal.org/node/197419
[23:56:04]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/197419 => Total Articles and Number of Users => 1 IRC mention
[23:56:56]<ultra_>damnit, I think HOF looks like what I want... I'll try it out, thanks betz
[23:57:09]<betz>np
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