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[00:00:15]<tomas->level09_, huh?
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[00:00:33]<kthomas_vh>anyone know of an instant notification system that sends an email etc when a new user/ip begins to browse the site?
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[00:00:57]<level09_>tomas-: if you dont want your title linked, u can print_r your node object and select the fields that you want to print
[00:01:21]<level09_>kthomas_vh: hook_init and 3 php lines can do it :D
[00:01:49]<tomas->level09_, yeah i know i could print out just $node->body, but that would lose formatting for the title
[00:02:10]<kthomas_vh>level... hmm, you'd have to have stats on and compare the table with a db_query...
[00:02:24]<kthomas_vh>*ip table
[00:02:26]<kthomas_vh>or such
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[00:03:35]<level09_>kthomas_vh: sending that number of email might get you in a big trouble with your server resources
[00:03:56]<kthomas_vh>well, it would depend on the site...
[00:03:58]<level09_>email is one of the preferred ways to take any site down (so far )
[00:04:01]<tomas->level09_, i'll figure something out, thanks
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[00:04:15]<tomas->stephthegeek, how would i put a view into a block?
[00:04:20]<redndahead>kthomas_vh: using session vars would take care of the need for a table
[00:04:43]<stephthegeek>tomas-, you're just creating a block display for that view. as opposed to a page or feed or whatever
[00:04:57]<tomas->ah ok i see it
[00:05:28]<tomas->stephthegeek, and the filter would be set to the nid?
[00:06:02]<stephthegeek>tomas-, i haven't used views for D6 a whole lot yet.. i'd have to pull it up to see the exact way
[00:06:06]<stephthegeek>but that sounds reasonable :)
[00:06:19]<redndahead>stephthegeek: hopefully my employer will be contacting you soon. We need some themeing work done and I recommended you guys.
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[00:06:44]<redndahead>stephthegeek: They are contacting a number of people, but I pressed for a company that has drupal experience.
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[00:07:27]<stephthegeek>redndahead, oh cool :) we don't personally do much custom work these days but we've got a couple of people we've worked with before who do
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[00:08:24]<redndahead>bugger :(
[00:08:25]<tomas->i guess views will work better instead of submenutree, i cant get that working for anything!
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[00:08:57]<redndahead>Well direct them well. I'm getting tired of converting poorly made templates ;)
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[00:09:15]<tomas->i cant seem to figure out how submenutree works, and how to get it to display in a block (despite selecting "block menu" from the "submenu" options)
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[00:10:30]<level09_>hmmm we need panels for drupal 6 !
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[00:11:41]<tomas->level09_, YES!
[00:11:45]<stephthegeek>redndahead, we only recommend top tier folks we can vouch for, never fear :)
[00:12:17]<tomas->wow, views are SWEET....a bit complicated for certain effects (esp fairly static data), but sweet nonetheless
[00:12:20]<redndahead>stephthegeek: thanks!!
[00:12:42]<level09_>it would be even better if views and panels are merged into one module
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[00:14:16]<marcrobinsone>careful what you ask for... you might just get it
[00:14:41]<tomas->i get the fact that the drupal core is developed separately from the modules and it's all done collaboratively, but it kinda sucks when a new version is out for over 6 months and still some very popular modules are not ported
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[00:15:16]<tomas->its like you have to wait a year before it can support everything you want to do
[00:15:34]<redndahead>tomas: remember that this release was the exception to the rule
[00:16:03]<stephthegeek>tomas-, most things in the tech world are like that...
[00:16:07]<redndahead>tomas: Views decided to do a complete rewrite and that took a long time
[00:16:19]<stephthegeek>new game consoles don't have many games at first... new operating systems don't have much software or compatible hardware...
[00:16:56]<tomas->yeah but saying drupal 6 is out and stable, only to install it, try it out and a week later find out you cant do what you want is a bit dissappointing
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[00:17:04]<redndahead>And numerous projects relies on views
[00:17:12]<redndahead>That is true
[00:17:14]<tomas->(but heck, its better than coding from scratch, even if a bit of php needs to be coded here and there)
[00:17:29]<ksool>Are there any modules that provide node access restrictions (like ACL) that work for 6.x?
[00:17:48]<stephthegeek>yeah.. i agree it would be nice if there was a greater explanation of that. if i had a nickel for every poor person in here who went down that road....
[00:17:57]<stephthegeek>ksool, http://drupalmodules.com/module-finder
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[00:18:31]<ksool>stephthegeek, thanks a ton. Drupal.org's lack of search is hurting. Seriously.
[00:18:48]<stephthegeek>ksool, yeah. that site is awesome for finding modules quickly
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[00:20:24]<tomas->ive got this view called "nodehierarchy_children_list" (among many other pre-built in views)....how the heck do i use it? it seems to be what i need ready to go, i just need to somehow link it to a node
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[00:22:22]<tomas->ahh, its listed under the node's "Node Hierarchy / Embed Children View"
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[00:24:04]<tomas->what does the "export" feature with nodes do?
[00:24:08]<tomas->VIEWS, not nodes
[00:25:03]<peerce>it gives you a text representation (xml?) of the view, which you can 'import' into another drupal system, or into a new view.
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[00:26:15]<tomas->ah, ok -- to duplicate the settings
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[00:28:59]<samrose>What is the best way to allow users to post a certain content type node, and allow them to make it private or public?
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[00:29:26]<marcrobinsone>samrose: depends on what you mean by 'private or public'
[00:29:39]<samrose>private to only the user and site admin
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[00:29:43]<marcrobinsone>in Drupal, you can "publish" and "unpublish" content
[00:30:05]<marcrobinsone>if published, content are only visible to its author (usually admin)
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[00:30:40]<marcrobinsone>samrose: check and uncheck the "Published" checkbox before submitting the node.
[00:30:40]<tomas->is there a way to disable breadcrumbs per node, etc? i only want certain sections of the site to have it enabled, actually (such as when interfacing with a database) -- it doesnt make much sense for a fairly static and simple site, but i dont want to remove it either!
[00:31:05]<samrose>well, we want to make a "personal journal" that would be space for users to post to, and leave it up to them to make public or private. Publish unpusblish would technically do it.
[00:31:20]<marcrobinsone>tomas-: many ways to do it
[00:31:40]<tomas->marcrobinsone, without modifying the template files?
[00:31:46]<marcrobinsone>samrose: it's as simple as it is :)
[00:31:47]<tomas->ie within the drupal interface instead
[00:32:03]<marcrobinsone>tomas-: I think the custom_breadcrumbs module can handle that
[00:32:08]<tomas->ah ok
[00:32:14]<marcrobinsone>custom_breadcrumbs?
[00:32:14]<Druplicon>Custom Breadcrumbs allows you to customize the way the breadcrumbs are rendered. See more at http://drupal.org/project/custom_breadcrumbs .
[00:32:49]<marcrobinsone>tomas-: but if you want to hide it... Simple add "display:none" to your theme's CSS rule on #breadcrumbs
[00:32:57]<marcrobinsone>*simply
[00:32:59]<samrose>I wa thinking more along the lines of http://drupal.org/project/private maybe I'll modify that. Anyway, thanks for helping re-realize I could also do it with publish!
[00:33:22]<samrose>helping *me* re-realize that is
[00:33:29]<JohnnyL>stephthegeek, it has you!
[00:33:42]<marcrobinsone>samrose: that helps too. nice find :) In this matter, I'd like to keep it simple
[00:33:47]<tomas->marcrobinsone, yeah but some areas of the site will have it and some wont, is the problem, i need a way to disable/enable it and have a default
[00:34:06]<samrose>there are two "private" contrib modules it seems
[00:34:27]<stephthegeek>JohnnyL, wha?
[00:34:41]<marcrobinsone>but I'd say go for it!
[00:34:46]<JohnnyL>stephthegeek, you can feel it on your way to work
[00:34:52]<samrose>this is cool too http://drupal.org/project/protected_node
[00:35:02]<JohnnyL>stephthegeek, you can can sense it when you go to church...
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[00:35:18]<JohnnyL>stephthegeek, or while watching your tv.
[00:35:28]<stephthegeek>church? tv? you definitely must have the wrong person :P
[00:35:39]<marcrobinsone>samrose: nice find again. That module is new
[00:35:39]<JohnnyL>stephthegeek, the matrix, it has you.
[00:35:55]<samrose>I am just looking here http://drupal.org/project/Modules/category/74?page=3
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[00:36:46]<samrose>that was why i took a crack at asking here, the modules evolve so fast it is hard to know which are the better ones to use, and which are being used widely enough to survive for a while
[00:37:11]<marcrobinsone>samrose: I think simple access will server your purpose too
[00:37:20]<samrose>oh, ok
[00:37:24]<samrose>thanks!
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[00:38:45]<marcrobinsone>samrose: good luck testing each one :_
[00:39:21]<samrose>thanks marcrobinson will be doing tomorrow. Will make a note on Drupal.org somewhere about how they work eventually
[00:40:21]<Mapler>If just installing drupal 6.3, I can always enable clean URLs later, yeS?
[00:42:32]<redndahead>Mapler: yes
[00:43:18]<Mapler>awesome, first install is going pretty well :)
[00:43:50]<redndahead>Mapler: Welcome to the addiction
[00:44:54]<tomas->marcrobinsone, it seems that custom_breadcrumbs doesnt let you disable the breadcrumbs -- it just lets you customize what it is for a given scenario (ie php expression given $node object)
[00:46:34]<marcrobinsone>tomas-: that's just too bad
[00:46:58]<tomas->i was just hoping there was a way to have a checkbox in a node to say 'enable/disable breadcrumb'
[00:47:34]<marcrobinsone>I'm not aware if there is such. If not, you can always write one
[00:47:52]<stephthegeek>tomas-, you can take the lines that print it out of your page.tpl.php file in your theme
[00:48:19]<stephthegeek>just search for "breadcrumb" in there and delete the few lines that check for it and print it
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[00:49:31]<marcrobinsone>stephthegeek: he wants his breadcrumbs toggle-able. I'm not aware if there's a module for such but I agree that theming is always the best way to do it
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[00:49:48]<peerce>reminds me, I realized the contributed theme I used for the theme on a new site doesn't HAVE breadcrumbs, so I gotta figure out how to add them back in :-/
[00:50:17]<tomas->yeah, i guess id have to hardcode into the theme some sort of toggle flag that then checks against certain paths
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[00:50:40]<AlanF>Anyone here ever struggled with Captcha in CiviCRM-Drupal?
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[00:51:12]<stephthegeek>marcrobinsone, oh my bad.. hadn't read fully
[00:51:22]<stephthegeek>tomas-, what situations do you want them displaying/not displaying under?
[00:51:23]<Moonshine>tomas-: How about just creating a content type for these nodes that you don't want breakcrumbs for and then using Custom Breadcrumbs? or are you literally needing to hen peck specific nodes of a variety of types and not have breadcrumbs?
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[00:51:32]<marcrobinsone>stephthegeek: :)
[00:52:12]<stephthegeek>tomas-, depending on the theme you're using, there might be some helpful CSS classes on the body or a wrapper that you can use to target a specific node type/style/section/whatever and display:none the breadcrumbs for that
[00:52:32]<tomas->well if its a top-level page (matches the pattern /content/foo, versus /content/foo/bar), i dont want a breadcrumb
[00:52:46]<tomas->if its a SUBPAGE within a folder, per se, i WOULD want it
[00:53:08]<Psi-Jack>Okay./
[00:53:11]<Psi-Jack>I have an annoying problem.
[00:53:17]<stephthegeek>tomas-, hm yeah that's a little trickier.. you'll need to do some code in your page.tpl file
[00:53:22]<Psi-Jack>I have OG, and I just made a group, as a normal user.
[00:53:37]<Psi-Jack>I tried to go into the group forums, and I'm getting "Access Denied"
[00:53:39]<Psi-Jack>Right off the bat.
[00:53:52]<h1mee>I have an piece of code I snagged and modified from the interweb to do a mass node delete, and it suggets that you execute it through the devel php execute interface -- the problem is that I can't find this :) does anyone know where it is? I have execute php permissions enabled
[00:53:59]<tomas->for top level pages, it ends up displaying the title in the breadcrumbs AND the title within the content -- TWICE is annoying and really ugly
[00:54:18]<tomas->i need to somehow gain access to the raw array() of the breadcrumbs
[00:54:19]<AlanF>Psi-Jack: Do you have forum permissions enabled? What about corresponding node permissions?
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[00:54:40]<Psi-Jack>AlanF: I have Forum Access yes.
[00:54:58]<AlanF>h1mee, do you have the devel module enabled?
[00:55:02]<h1mee>AlanF, yes
[00:55:08]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: Hey!
[00:55:27]<AlanF>h1mee, what does your devel menu look like?
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[00:55:32]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: What did you do to make the tabs in your site during content creation? I'm going to see if I can do it in D5.
[00:55:47]<Psi-Jack>Hmm
[00:55:57]<Psi-Jack>I'm going to disable the Forum Access module and see if that corrects the issue.
[00:56:03]* marcrobinsone storm named "Helen" is reigning over the metropolis. Now I can't go out
[00:56:09]<Psi-Jack>I wish though it would let me define sane defaults though.
[00:56:15]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: howdy.. I was using CCK Fieldgroup Tabs module...
[00:56:18]<Psi-Jack>Kinda lame that there seems to be /no/ configuration for it.
[00:56:29]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: CCK Fieldgroup Tabs?
[00:56:38]<h1mee>AlanF, if I go to admin/settings/devel then I see the following sections: query log, error handler, smtp library and then a whole bunch of check boxes for displaying various debugging widgets
[00:56:51]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: yup.. http://drupal.org/project/cck_fieldgroup_tabs
[00:57:14]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: Works for both editing and display...
[00:57:15]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: Got it. Thanks. That's all, besides it's dependants?
[00:57:20]<Psi-Jack>Oooh..
[00:57:27]<Psi-Jack>Haaandy. ;)
[00:57:39]<AlanF>h1mee, I was thinking of your devel block in the menu. Do you have it enabled?
[00:57:43]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: Yeah.. that with Tabs module in my case (d6) and then just a little patch that I've sumbitted...
[00:57:55]<Mapler>crappy, just when I thought I had finished, looks like something isn't working right. I've got to the final "Welcome to your new drupal site" page, but following any link gives me Apache's "It Works!" page...
[00:58:02]<Mapler>d6.3
[00:58:03]<Moonshine>http://drupal.org/node/280627
[00:58:03]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/280627 => Add "error" classes to tabs with errored fields and switch to problem tabs => CCK Fieldgroup Tabs, User interface, normal, patch (code needs review), 1 IRC mention
[00:58:10]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: ^^
[00:58:52]<h1mee>AlanF, you mean in the administration menu?
[00:58:59]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: Awesome. Will try it out in d5. ;)
[00:59:02]<AlanF>h1mee, yes
[00:59:05]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: Comment #4 is the patch you want if you try it... but it will work fine with out it.. that just adds error classes for problem tabs.. and some access stuff for D6.
[00:59:23]<Psi-Jack>Understood. ;)
[00:59:30]<h1mee>AlanF, I see a "Devel" under "Site configuration" which leads to admin/settings/devel
[00:59:39]<h1mee>let me check to see if there is something else in the menu which isn't enabled
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[01:00:14]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: CCK Field Permisions in d6 are about the coolest thing I've seen so far though... only like 15 lines of code and you can completely control every field... totally amazing.
[01:00:31]<tomas->ah: $trail = menu_get_active_breadcrumb(); if (count($trail) <= 1) { return ''; } # Put in template.php @ phptemplate_breadcrumb()
[01:00:38]<h1mee>alanf, I'm not sure if I have it enabled -- do you know how to do it?
[01:01:06]<tomas->the drupal code base for a large part seems to have fairly clean code (tho some of it confusing), its not that bad
[01:01:08]<AlanF>h1mee, if you go to admin/build/block, is devel in the disabled block?
[01:01:09]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: Heh. Yeaaah. I just wish D6's modules were ready. I found problems in as simple a module as Token.
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[01:01:42]<Psi-Jack>Ugh
[01:01:46]<Psi-Jack>My problem WAS Forum Access
[01:01:56]<Psi-Jack>The module was assuming to create /no/ access at all.
[01:02:08]<tomas->thanks guys, help was appreciated
[01:02:08]<Psi-Jack>So.. How the hec...
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[01:02:11]<h1mee>alanf - ah yes it is, I guess I should just enable it for one of the regions?
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[01:02:16]<AlanF>psi-jack, so that did the trick?
[01:02:22]<AlanF>h1mee, yes.
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[01:02:29]<h1mee>you ROCK AlanF
[01:02:36]<h1mee>thank you :) /me passes good karma
[01:03:00]<Psi-Jack>AlanF: Disabling it, WORKED, but disables my ability to set forum moderators.
[01:03:08]<NoVARaif>evening all... sorry I had to duck out
[01:03:36]<AlanF>psi-jack, oh, well.
[01:03:56]<AlanF>h1mee, always good to hear.
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[01:05:01]<h1mee>AlanF, okay my next stupid question is, what do I select in the newly enabled menu to execute php code?
[01:05:03]<h1mee>:)
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[01:10:07]<illmatix>is there a known issue for ie6 to not be able to display headings from signwriter?
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[01:11:03]<NoVARaif>I'm trying to troubleshoot what 'broke' my drupal5 embedded gallery2 albums
[01:11:07]<Sujiko>Does anyone know how to disable the poster information/avatar for different content types? I seem to recall a setting for it somewhere but I can't for the life of me find it.
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[01:12:41]<NoVARaif>I think it's been caused by a module that I recently enabled, and have subsequently disabled. When I attempt to access the gallery2 albums through the drupal module, I can see, then click on the album, but then get 'page not found' my site's located at www.hargest.com and the standalone gallery is www.hargest.com/gallery2
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[01:13:48]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: Wow, I see what you mean.
[01:14:03]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: That cck module's function you edited, was TINY, compared to the one for 5.x
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[01:15:49]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: Yeah, that patch does a lot in very few lines... I don't know how the "tabs" module works in d5 as it's a different module but in d6 they put it in "slow" mode for some reason which is obnoxious.. but it's just a setting in the admin for tabs.
[01:16:20]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: It'll take /me/ some time to work out how to get the same effect your patch applies.
[01:16:37]<AlanF>h1mee, are you in D5 or D6?
[01:16:48]<Psi-Jack>Well, hmm
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[01:17:02]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: Well you can use that patch there and error classes and re-direction to error tabs should work... that's all done in jquery...
[01:17:11]<Psi-Jack>Okay, So /without/ Forum Access module.. The only way to have forum moderators is to basically have a GLOBAL site forum moderator, isn't there?
[01:17:27]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: The patch will not apply to d5's module. ;)
[01:17:29]<Psi-Jack>TRUST me.
[01:17:33]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: You just won't get tabs to dissapear when users don't have access to the fields in them.
[01:17:36]<Psi-Jack>The syntax of code is completely different entirely.
[01:17:40]<Sujiko>Blah. Found it. :P
[01:17:45]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: Oh yeah.. hehe.. forget about that part :)
[01:17:49]<Psi-Jack>Heh
[01:17:54]<Psi-Jack>It's majorly different. ;)
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[01:18:40]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: Well it should still be easy as that patch just add's a "validate" portion to the nodeapi hook that I'm sure is in d5 also.
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[01:18:57]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: ...
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[01:19:09]<Psi-Jack>It's, quite a lot different. ;)
[01:19:21]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: No nodeapi hook ?
[01:19:30]<Psi-Jack>There is a nodeapi hook, yes.
[01:19:46]<Moonshine>Psi-Jack: Any "validate" op case already ?
[01:20:08]<ldz420>question: can anyone help me with making a form element aware of an input format?
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[01:20:28]<Psi-Jack>Moonshine: That's a negative.
[01:20:45]<Moonshine>Psi: Then your set.. just toss it in there :)
[01:20:51]<Psi-Jack>heh
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[01:22:53]<sdwrage>Hey aall
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[01:23:28]<sdwrage>I am needing to start a community based site where users can create groups and have a group section for their particular group. Where would you suggest I start?
[01:24:04]<level09>i'm trying to build a classmates site, i'm not decided yet whether I will use og or rely on cck , any recommendation ?
[01:24:05]<sdwrage>I know xhtml, css and php but am rusty with my drupal and just need to know a good package of modules I should get
[01:24:12]<level09>or case studies may be helpful
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[01:24:40]<peerce>i recommeend you prototype a few things, and evaluate them against your requirements and desires.
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[01:25:59]<Mapler>Alrighty, let's try this again now that I'm back :)
[01:26:04]<level09>how to allow users to add terms ? whats the recomended approach ?
[01:26:33]<level09>since drupal's main focus is on adding node ..
[01:26:35]<Mapler>I've just installed d6.3, and I've gotten to the "Welcome To Drupal" screen where you can do your admin stuff, but whenever I follow any link, I get Apache's "It Works!" screen. Any ideas on why?
[01:27:38]<Mapler>nevermind
[01:27:45]<Mapler>works now for some reason, who knows why :)
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[01:28:39]<peerce>i was going to suggest you didn't have the right vhost stuff in your apache .conf, and weren't allowing drupal's .htaccess to do its magic.
[01:29:01]<peerce>but that would have been a wild guess :D
[01:29:16]<bigmack84>anyone in here from the sacramento area in california? I have a client that wants me to rebuild their site into something more dynamic. www.eprivatefitness.com (existing site) . the new site will likely be done in D6. but I'm trying to get an idea on maybe how much I should charge to start the site and for monthly maintinance.
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[01:30:16]<Mapler>thanks for the thoughts peerce, I'm still figuring out all of this vhost stuff and such :)
[01:30:24]<grndlvl>seen paulATL?
[01:30:24]<Druplicon>PaulATL was last seen in #drupal-support 23 hours 45 min ago saying 'JohnnyL - I guess I've been lucky to not have run into that problem. Look into the diff-merge solution that g_rndlvl suggested.'.
[01:30:25]<Mapler>now to go to town on d6 modules, ha
[01:30:30]<bigmack84>hoping maybe someone here had some insight or information that may help with that.
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[01:31:01]<peerce>i worked/lived in/near sacatomatoes for 6 months in 1975... couldnt' stand the place, was very happy to move back to the coast
[01:31:15]<Shutter_>hello i am having issues installing drupal on my local machine
[01:31:20]<Shutter_>i am to the screen with it asking databse information
[01:31:24]<Shutter_>but when i click submit it just loads the same page back
[01:31:29]<Shutter_>if anyone would help me i would be greatly appreicated
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[01:32:20]<peerce>is your database server running? have you created a database user and a database that user can access, and can you use the database servers' admininstration tool(s) to connect to said database using that username/password ?
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[01:32:33]<Shutter_>yes
[01:32:47]<Shutter_>it does not say it can not connect is just loads the same page over again
[01:32:50]<bigmack84>peerce: lol yup sacramento isn't my favorite place either. hopefully will move back to the bay in a few years when I'm done with college
[01:33:08]<Shutter_>peerce: the web server and database server is an all in one deal
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[01:33:38]<peerce>Shutter_; um, they may have been packaged that way, but they are two QUITE different pieces of software, each with their own configuration requirements.
[01:33:54]<Shutter_>they are both running
[01:33:55]<bigmack84>shutter: restart your server services and try again.
[01:33:59]<Shutter_>ok
[01:34:00]<Shutter_>i have
[01:34:01]<sdwrage>does D6 have alot of good modules yet?
[01:34:04]<Shutter_>i did it last night and now tonight
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[01:34:28]<Shutter_>ok restarted now trying again
[01:34:44]<bigmack84>sdwrage: depends on what ur looking for. I'm using D6 and works for me fine
[01:35:29]<Shutter_>database name, databsae user and database password is the nly thing it askes me
[01:35:33]<Shutter_>i enter the correct information
[01:35:39]<Shutter_>i click on save and continue
[01:36:00]<bigmack84>sdwrage: what features do you want? what kind of site?
[01:36:05]<Shutter_>and it loads the same page again
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[01:36:37]<Shutter_>could i do the install manually?
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[01:38:52]<bigmack84>shutter: have you checked your apaches httpd.conf file and/or the .htaccess files to see if they have proper access permissions. also try chmod settings.php to see if it readable and has proper permissions (should be already hut hey worth a shot)
[01:39:16]<Shutter_>i am on windows vista
[01:39:22]<peerce>my condolences.
[01:39:25]<Shutter_>thanks
[01:39:26]<Shutter_> know
[01:39:29]<Shutter_>* i know
[01:39:43]<Shutter_>i have never had isseus with httpd.conf or .htaccess
[01:39:44]<Shutter_>before
[01:39:47]<peerce>php, apache, mysql are all very foreign to vista. get a shell/web account somewhere and run it on there.
[01:40:04]<Shutter_>i have been able to run everything on my computer
[01:40:07]<Shutter_>that is how i test things
[01:40:13]<Shutter_>it should work
[01:40:16]<Shutter_>and will work i know it
[01:40:33]<bigmack84>peerce I'm running a local host on vista with no problems using WAMP
[01:41:01]<Shutter_>i am not using wamp i am using VertrigoServ but its the same thing as wampp
[01:41:07]<peerce>and I went 120MPH in my volvo wagon a few months ago and didn't crash.
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[01:42:01]<Shutter_>i need to rename default.settings.php to settings.php before i do the install correct?
[01:42:10]<level09>is there any production sites being launched based on D6 ?
[01:42:14]<bigmack84>shutter: is the drupal install in its own folder or are all the files in the webroot folder?
[01:42:26]<level09>Shutter_: no , create another one
[01:42:30]<Shutter_>Z:\mikes\BaseInstalls\Drupal
[01:42:38]<Shutter_>how
[01:42:42]<bigmack84>shutter: with D6 you don't neet to touch settings.php at all
[01:42:45]<level09>by creating it
[01:42:49]<Shutter_>what
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[01:43:00]<Shutter_>i am running d6 and it is asking me the following
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[01:43:15]<Shutter_>The Drupal installer requires that you create ./sites/default/settings.php as part of the installation process, and then make it writable. If you are unsure how to grant file permissions, please consult the on-line handbook.
[01:43:32]<Shutter_>so do i just create a file called settings.php?
[01:43:35]<level09>u can ask in #windows on how to create a file :D
[01:43:36]<peerce>note that it needs to be writeable by the WEB SERVER, not by you.
[01:43:40]<level09>yes
[01:43:49]<peerce>the webserver runs as a different account than you do.
[01:43:51]<level09>on windows u dont need to worry about that
[01:43:56]<redndahead>Shutter: In D6.3 you need to create a settings.php file
[01:43:58]<peerce>of course, Vista makes all that as obfuscated as humanly possible.
[01:44:02]<level09>unless u use iis
[01:44:08]<redndahead>Copy the default-settings.php file and rename to settings.php
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[01:44:15]<Shutter_>i have done that