IRC log for #drupal-support, 2008-06-30 (GMT)

 
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[00:05:38]<chendo[work]>I have just installed the captcha module, but I can't seem to enable it for the user signup page
[00:05:54]<chendo[work]>I try to go to /user/register while logged in as an admin to enable it, but I get access denied
[00:06:13]<hvgotcodes>what does an invalid reply from an ftp client mean? It might mean time to switch hosting providers
[00:06:29]<chendo[work]>Since I have to go to a form to enable the captcha somehow
[00:09:26]<lronPaw>maaaan
[00:09:38]<lronPaw>anyone able to assist with ecommerce
[00:09:48]<lronPaw>also
[00:10:05]<lronPaw>anyone know if how you can specify no teaser for a particular node?
[00:12:19]<sceo>I just noticed my watchdog/logs are in GMT, is that configurable?
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[00:30:31]<threexk>does anyone know a way to inline CCK fields with CSS? the method I am using does not work well
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[00:33:43]<level09>node-ccktype.tpl.php
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[00:34:36]<hydrian>Ello all
[00:35:08]<Michelle>threexk - What do you mean by "inline" them?
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[00:35:17]<level09>foreach ($node->content as $key=>$field) { print <div class='inline'> $field['#value'] </div> }
[00:35:26]<level09>:D
[00:35:41]<hydrian>Does anybody know of a module that allows you to add a textarea (or any other type of HTML form element) to a specific type of node type?
[00:35:50]<level09>div.inline { display: inline; width: auto !important; }
[00:35:52]<level09>:D
[00:36:00]<Michelle>Why not just do it thru the UI?
[00:36:11]<Michelle>Click the dropdown and select inline
[00:36:38]<level09>c'mon I wrote all that code for nothing :D
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[00:37:41]<lronPaw>anyone know if how you can specify no teaser for a particular node (ie, frontpage sticky?)
[00:38:13]<Michelle>lronPaw - The manual way would be to put <!--break--> at the end
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[00:38:56]<threexk>level09, Michelle: sorry, I meant CCK node form fields
[00:39:22]<Michelle>Ah, I've been working on that myself. Haven't quite got there, but I used a module to start with... Hang on
[00:39:37]<level09>tweakbox?
[00:39:37]<Druplicon>tweakbox is a module for teaser management http://drupal.org/project/tweakbox
[00:39:58]<Michelle>http://drupal.org/project/wp_comments
[00:40:05]<Michelle>I stole the code from there
[00:40:05]<level09>hook_form_alter?
[00:40:06]<Druplicon>hook_form_alter: Perform alterations before a form is rendered. => hook_form_alter(&$form, $form_state, $form_id) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/hook_form_alter/6
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[00:41:44]<lronPaw>Michelle i tried what you suggest but its not having an effect
[00:42:08]<Michelle>Wierd... Always worked when I did that
[00:42:13]<Michelle>v?
[00:42:13]<Druplicon>What version of Drupal? The answer can vary widely depending on your version.
[00:42:20]<lronPaw>5.7
[00:42:39]<lronPaw>even the preview says the trimmed version shows where the break is but it doesn
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[00:43:09]<lronPaw>hmm
[00:43:10]<lronPaw>works now
[00:43:12]<lronPaw>thakns!
[00:43:31]<lronPaw>now
[00:43:40]<lronPaw>ecommerce.. how can i config anon purchase
[00:43:53]<lronPaw>well i have it config for registred only but it allows anon
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[00:43:56]<lronPaw>purchasing
[00:44:05]<lronPaw>client is getting shitty and so am i
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[00:54:20]<jonnyg>where is the message "You are not authorized to access this page" printed from..? I'd like to enclose it in a div so I can style it
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[01:02:52]<ComputerNap>Could someone help me with imagecache?
[01:03:00]<ComputerNap>It's not working at all
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[01:11:21]<NateSide>is there a way to clear the caches in drupal (5x) or do i have to use phpmyadmin?
[01:11:50]<level09>why
[01:11:59]<level09>what caches?
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[01:12:12]<level09>if u are creating modules, u can use devel
[01:12:17]<level09>devel?
[01:12:17]<Druplicon>Devel is a useful module for getting extra information about your site, such as database calls and form element names. It's useful for developing themes and custom modules. Download is http://drupal.org/project/devel and docs are at http://drupal.org/node/174575
[01:13:36]<NateSide>page cache, ill just use phpmy admin, i just turned on javascript aggregation and its not happening, nor is my css aggregation happeing, im thinking i need to clear the cache
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[01:20:30]<hydrian>NateSide: did you do the theme hack method or the "proper" way?
[01:21:06]<hydrian>Does anybody know of a module that allows you to add a textarea (or any other type of HTML form element) to a specific type of node type?
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[01:54:43]<mdlueck>Anyone know what is contained in the variable $header? Does not seem to contain anything in several domains I admin, thus wondering its purpose in the theme.
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[01:56:25]<NateSide>This is nice, im using the gmap module, but users dont even ever see it, just admins, but every one downloads the javascript for it, on every page!
[01:57:22]<ComputerNap>I really need some help with imagecache. It's not producing anything at all.
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[02:12:51]<btopro>anyone here with d.o. administer nodes access?
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[02:44:29]<Travis_Carden1>Hey, all. Does anyone know of a good way to do a podcast feed in Drupal 6?
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[02:53:08]<tz>hello everyone
[02:53:17]<tz>i need someone with exp in subform module
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[02:53:31]<tz>i need to combin user_registration with a node_form
[02:53:36]<tz>any help would be appreciated
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[03:01:27]<tz>guess everyone is sleep
[03:03:34]<Crell>What are you trying to do and why?
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[03:04:27]<tz>i am tring to make one form that will create a group with og groups and create a admin user at the same time
[03:04:59]<tz>group manager not admin sorry
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[03:06:10]<tz>Crell: any ideas?
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[03:07:10]<Crell>Um. Don't do it. :-) OG is a wacky enough module as is without trying to create user accounts with it.
[03:07:38]<tz>i needs to be done for a project
[03:07:41]<tz>have to fig out away
[03:07:42]<Crell>The only thing I can think of is to use nodeprofile and make the OG node a user profile node, but that would expose an Og-per-user.
[03:07:53]<tz>I c
[03:07:59]<tz>very smart aproach
[03:08:06]<tz>I like it
[03:08:11]<tz>thx
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[03:08:16]<Crell>Not realy. :-) As I said, it means og-per-user.
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[03:09:25]<tz>o yea that is a problem
[03:09:30]<tz>big one
[03:10:39]<threexk>is there a way to put comments in HTML that aren't transmitted?
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[03:10:40]<tz>any other ideas?
[03:11:23]<threexk>I guess I could just use PHP
[03:13:09]<Crell>tz: Do you want to create the OG first, or the user first?
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[03:13:29]<Crell>And how's your PHP code? :-)
[03:13:39]<tz>i think i have to create OG first
[03:13:48]<tz>then a og and make the user a manager
[03:13:50]<tz>but anyway will be fine
[03:14:09]<Crell>Remember that the OG owner will be the user that created the node.
[03:14:17]<Crell>Then there's any number of additional admins.
[03:14:22]<tz>no um
[03:14:33]<tz>og creator will be a Administrator
[03:14:35]<tz>not group manager
[03:14:54]<tz>like super admin
[03:15:11]<Crell>OK, so you have to remember to only create OGs as uid 1. :-)
[03:15:17]* Crell has a site like that. *shudders*
[03:15:25]<Crell>2, actually.
[03:15:53]<tz>yea
[03:16:14]<tz>just need one form ...i tried to get pathauto to work but u can't call user_register
[03:16:27]<tz>or a wizard need to dummy proof the process
[03:16:42]<Crell>pathauto has nothing to do with it.
[03:17:12]<tz>was thinking of setting up the add user form then have it redirect to add group form and post the manager username
[03:17:14]<Crell>It sounds like you want to do some weirdness with hook_form_alter. Add your own fields to the OG node edit form, but only when adding a new OG, and then add a new submit handler that manually creates a user.
[03:17:27]<tz>yes
[03:17:32]<tz>that was my first approach
[03:17:37]<Crell>Didn't work?
[03:17:37]<tz>but was getting messy
[03:17:46]<Crell>What you are doing is messy. :-)
[03:18:04]<tz>well gettting it to submit user then group_node
[03:18:11]<tz>issues
[03:18:26]<Crell>No, it submits the OG first, then you manually create the user.
[03:19:01]<tz>yea but i need the not technical admin to do this in one step
[03:19:04]<tz>2 max
[03:19:43]<Crell>Right. With hook_form_alter, you can basically code your own user creation routine and have it do as much or as little as you want.
[03:19:55]<tz>ok i will go back to that
[03:21:05]<tz>was haivng trouble decifering the user_regiester func
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[03:28:07]<Crell>Oh it's a nightmare. :-)
[03:28:10]<Crell>But you don't want to call that directly.
[03:28:23]<Crell>You can create a new $account object, populate it with the right fields, and call user_save() on it directly.
[03:28:39]<Crell>If you set that up properly, that will be the least-buggy approach.
[03:30:45]<dragonwize>Can you add custom submit functions to the content type admin forms? adding to the #submit array doesn't seem to work
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[03:37:00]<lronPaw>hi
[03:37:23]<Crell>dragonwize: You definitely can.
[03:37:34]<lronPaw>can anyone help/suggest how to change links (create an account, forgot passowrd) with buttons?
[03:38:12]<dragonwize>Crell: how?
[03:38:38]<dragonwize>I can't find a module that actually does it
[03:38:44]<Crell>In hook_form_alter, $form['#submit']['your_function'] = array();
[03:39:30]<tz>hum
[03:40:22]<dragonwize>that is D5 on am on D6 and it is $form['#submit'][] = 'fucntion_name'; however this does not work on these forms, I have a feeling it is because node_form_submit unsets the submit array along with several others during its call
[03:40:51]<Crell>Ah. I've not worked with FAPI 3 yet, honestly.
[03:40:54]<Crell>Try #Drupal for that.
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[03:52:44]<tz>man i don't have many options
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[03:53:00]<tz>but thanx Crell
[03:53:06]<Crell>Good luck, dude.
[03:53:26]<tz>u don't think subform will work
[03:53:30]<tz>with user_reg
[03:53:38]<Crell>Never tried it, honestly.
[03:53:39]<tz>then add a subform type
[03:53:41]<Crell>Well, not true.
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[03:53:52]<Crell>I did once before, over a year ago, and it scared me away.
[03:53:59]<Crell>But a year is a long time in Drupal. :-)
[03:54:04]<tz>i have noticed
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[04:36:19]<bflora>Can I call a module's function from my theme?
[04:36:27]<bflora>or do I have to add it to template.tpl.php?
[04:37:10]<Crell>Every time you call a function from a template file, god kills a kitten.
[04:37:22]<bflora>blah blah blah
[04:37:29]<bflora>in the meantime
[04:37:30]<bflora>:)
[04:37:55]<bflora>I'm trying to write a php snippet
[04:38:17]<bflora>that will tell me if current user has a pending buddy request with the author of whatever node they're looking at
[04:38:34]<bflora>there appears to be a function in buddylist that will return an array of all pending requests for a passed uid
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[04:38:59]<Crell>v?
[04:38:59]<Druplicon>What version of Drupal? The answer can vary widely depending on your version.
[04:39:11]<bflora>so it would seem that I could call that function, pass current UID through it and check to see if the node->uid is in the array
[04:39:13]<bflora>D6
[04:39:15]<bflora>D5
[04:39:16]<bflora>not 6
[04:39:17]<bflora>5
[04:39:19]<Crell>:-)
[04:39:46]<bflora>but I'm trying just to call that function, and dpm() the array
[04:39:49]<bflora>and nothing's happening
[04:40:02]<Crell>What you want to do is model D6's preprocess functions, and then use that to add an extra variable from a preprocess function that you can just print in the template.
[04:40:18]<Crell>http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/preprocess-drupal-5
[04:40:31]<bflora>ok, I'll read that
[04:40:41]<bflora>but can I call a module function from my template?
[04:40:59]<Crell>It will execute, yes, assuming the module is enabled.
[04:41:04]<Crell>It's just an extremely bad idea.
[04:41:27]<bflora>is it a bad idea because "cool kids don't do it" or because there's tangible downside
[04:41:38]<bflora>right now I just want to make sure it works
[04:41:59]<Crell>Both. :-)
[04:42:23]<bflora>my php skills are really weak, so I can't exactly code up a whole module, I need ot test on a live site whre I can see if its working or not
[04:42:28]<Crell>The downside is that you are no longer separating logic and layout. That sort of thing will bite you later.
[04:42:33]<Crell>I speak from much painful experience.
[04:43:07]<bflora>see, I hear that all the time, but can you give a brief example of being bitten by that?
[04:44:28]<Crell>I had a site a colleague of mine built in Drupal in which he was putting all his PHP code into the template file, and then custom-printing bits and pieces of HTML to build up the result.
[04:44:37]<Crell>I was called in after he left to figure out why it was slow.
[04:44:48]<Crell>It was slow because he was doing 100 node_load() calls in the template. :-)
[04:45:07]<Crell>That should have been easy to fix, but because all of the code was intermingled it was a nightmare to unravel.
[04:45:18]<bflora>gotcha
[04:45:30]<Crell>I basically had to spend 2 days rewriting that entire page, the view that went with it, and the templates to make it not suck.
[04:45:47]<Crell>In its new, more well-factored form we can make changes to it in a quarter the time or less.
[04:46:00]<bflora>gotcha
[04:46:26]<bflora>well I'm just testing out some ideas now, but yeah, I'll keep that in mind if this goes into production or someone other than me plays around with it
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[04:46:50]<Crell>That someone else is frequently you in 5 months, after you've forgotten what you're doing. :-)
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[04:47:33]<bflora>true true
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[04:52:55]<tourguide>seen Doug_Vann
[04:52:55]<Druplicon>doug_vann was last seen in #drupal-support 1 week 6 days ago saying 'Here's a more general web question, One of my clients really wants the "JI-Skinks" font for a header. Should I j_ust make an image with a good alt tag? or is there a way to embed fonts in Drupal? '.
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[04:53:57]<tourguide>seen amazon
[04:53:57]<Druplicon>amazon was last seen in #drupalcon 2 hours 33 min ago saying 'pwolanin: one approach that might help is to look at the groups which are really popular as an indicator of popular topics for Szeged'.
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[04:54:45]<aim_pagan>hello. all i had a quick question on menus
[04:55:49]<aim_pagan>i wanted to have a admin settings block and a sub admin setting item. and the link to that item goes to 2 tabs, the first one is default local menu task. but i wasnt sure how to set it up. let me put up code if anyone thinks they know the menu system well
[04:56:04]<Crell>v?
[04:56:04]<Druplicon>What version of Drupal? The answer can vary widely depending on your version.
[04:57:02]<aim_pagan>5.7
[04:57:46]<Crell>The menu system is black magic in that version. :-)
[04:58:47]<aim_pagan>http://cl1p.net/arian
[04:59:23]<aim_pagan>the comments say what id like to do. pretty simple. but it alludes. me the other modules i looking at dont set it how i would think its set
[05:00:27]<aim_pagan>the PDD book shows u how to do it if it was like a regular menu but this mixes admin menus with those. maybe the 2nd link should just be a MENU_CALLBACK like an example shows
[05:00:38]<Crell>Tabs are always icky. I always have to look up how to do it myself.
[05:00:49]<Crell>Perhaps check the errata for the book?
[05:02:16]<aim_pagan>k
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[05:06:33]<tourguide>bflora, http://www.clydehost.com/2008/06/29/drupal5-permissions-check-roles
[05:06:38]<ohhi>i just migrated my drupal install to a different host, and its prefixing alot of my stuff to /~username -- where now it should just be /, where would i find this option? iwas thinking base_url in settings.php but it didnt work
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[05:57:18]<aim_pagan>cool got it. looked at the workflowng module menu settings and figured it out
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[06:23:31]<NateSide>i need help, real bad, any one around?
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[06:24:34]<NateSide>i had my theme perfect (i thought) and I went and watched a movie, now everything is screwed up, everything seems to be working in ie, but in firefox everything is squished into the header
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[06:25:00]<NateSide>can any one go to www.locatemytree.com and try it in ie and firefox and let me know if anything is messed up?
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[06:30:40]<NateSide>ok, what the crap, everything is under control, mostly
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[06:33:18]<Placinta>If anyone could help me, it seems that panels2-beta5 doesnt want to show blocks. When I embed a block into a panel page, I get a WSOD
[06:37:19]<NateSide>firefox 3/2 arhg!
[06:38:23]<Placinta>Nvm, solved. It seems that panels doesnt want to load template.php, and it doesn't see a function in it.
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[06:55:40]<Placinta>Is it normal that template.php isnt included before a panel page is displayed?
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[07:03:20]<NateSide>arg, logo is perfect in IE, and firefox 3, but it ends up centered in firefox 2, but if I add css position:absolute left:0px everthing goes crazy
[07:03:25]<NateSide>WTF?
[07:03:25]<Druplicon>WTF is commonly an abbreviation for Whiskey, Tango, FoxTrot, but is also the only valid measurement of code quality. Observe: http://www.osnews.com/images/comics/wtfm.jpg
[07:04:18]<NateSide>ok, thats sorta funny
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