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[00:00:18]<level09>great :) me too :D
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[00:00:40]<ceardach>:D
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[00:02:47]<byronic>i got a question, i changed with pathauto my page path to page/x, this works finde, but when i try to access with arg(0) on page, i get "node"
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[00:04:00]<allanzmn>Does anybody knows if there is a field or widget for CCK that enables me to click on "add" and create a new line of the same field?
[00:04:11]<ceardach>byronic: arg values always gives you the system path
[00:04:44]<allanzmn>I would like to make a band registration and make 1 line for each band member
[00:04:46]<byronic>but how can i access on my alias path?
[00:04:51]<ceardach>allanzmn: In field configuration, does checking "multiple values" give you the feature you're looking for? If not, what is missing?
[00:05:14]<ceardach>byronic: I'm not sure if there is a non hacky way of doing it
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[00:06:35]<byronic>is therre any function available where i can with the id of the node, access on the id of the author ?
[00:06:39]<allanzmn>ceardach: The problem is that I need to create a line with 2 text fields, one for the name and other for role... I want customer to add new fields for each member
[00:06:50]<ceardach>byronic: I wrote this up ages ago, but it includes some code for referencing the path alias: http://drupal.org/node/93500
[00:06:53]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/93500 => Breadcrumbs: List breadcrumbs created from path alias => 3 IRC mentions
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[00:07:37]<ceardach>allanzmn: ahh... every time they needed a new member, it'd be two more text fields?
[00:07:46]<ComputerNap>level09: do you have any experience with imagecaceh>?
[00:07:52]<ComputerNap>or imagecache
[00:07:54]<ComputerNap>:)
[00:08:03]<ceardach>allanzmn: I haven't seen anything that addresses it too well. One way I've explored it is to use... I think it was called the matrix field.
[00:08:19]<ceardach>byronic: May you clarify your previous question?
[00:08:21]<nomad411>Hi all.. I have a friend who asks that I "fix" his site. From the looks of it, it's 4.6 and Siteground upgraded to PHP5
[00:08:25]<allanzmn>ceardach: Something like that. I cant just leave a fixed number of fields because I can't know how many member the band could have.
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[00:09:08]<nomad411>I'm trying to figure the best way to upgrade it.. Doing it directly on the host would probably not work?
[00:09:27]<byronic>if i got a nodeid, i would like to know, from which user the node ist -> userid
[00:09:27]<ceardach>allanzmn: I've looked into the same issue and haven't really found a solution. On one site I just provided a large fixed set, on another (uncompleted) site I dabbled with the matrix field.
[00:09:55]<ceardach>allanzmn: If you're good with PHP, you could take a look at the link field module. It includes two fields for each one. You could try modifying that module to fit your needs.
[00:10:26]<level09>what kind of experience :D ?
[00:10:46]<ceardach>nomad411: The upgrade path from 4.6 will be long and perilous. The best thing to do is upgrade from 4.6 to 4.7, and upgrade each of the modules. Then upgrade from 4.7 to 5. You can probably wait before upgrading again to 6.
[00:11:07]<nomad411>Yup, agreed, 5 is my goal
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[00:11:19]<nomad411>Which file has the proper version number again?
[00:11:31]<nomad411>I've been away from Drupal a bit, I miss it :)
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[00:11:39]<brenda003>check CHANGELOG.txt
[00:11:43]<nomad411>yes!
[00:11:45]<nomad411>thanks
[00:12:04]<nomad411>Woohoo!! 4.7.2
[00:12:17]<brenda003>phew. 4.6 is horrendous to upgrade.
[00:12:24]<ceardach>nomad411: Oh good! And if you didn't use flexinode then you shouldn't have a significant problem.
[00:12:55]<nomad411>No flexinode. I remember them being a concern back then. We were all waiting for mystical modules such as CCK and Views.. :D
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[00:13:14]<ceardach>byronic: So, from a given node ID, you want the author ID of the node?
[00:13:35]<ceardach>nomad411: Nice!! It shouldn't be that bad then.
[00:13:48]<nomad411>I guess I'll find a MAMP version running PHP4 and upgrade it there on my macbook
[00:14:19]<ceardach>I, sadly, was one who jumped on the flexinode band wagon. In my defense, I jumped on the bandwagon before CCK was out there.
[00:14:47]<ceardach>nomad411: Yes, definitely. Never do development on production.
[00:14:48]<nomad411>Band Wagons can be pretty atractive
[00:15:09]<allanzmn>ceardach: I'll look for this matrix module and read documentation. The idea is to create fields on demand so I can have one field for each band member...
[00:15:23]<byronic>exactly
[00:15:34]<allanzmn>ceardach: thx for the help, I'll give you news when I have
[00:15:46]<nomad411>same here, thanks for the help :)
[00:15:54]<ceardach>:)
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[00:16:46]<ceardach>byronic: $node = node_load(arg(1)); $author = $node->uid;
[00:17:46]<byronic>thx
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[00:20:39]<nomad411>I just ordered 2 new books, Pro Development (Due in August) and Drupal 6 Module development. Can't wait.
[00:21:02]<nomad411>I can't imagine that Drupal has changed sooo drastically since 4.7?
[00:21:58]<ComputerNap>Anyone have experience with imagecache?
[00:22:02]<ComputerNap>I can't get it to work
[00:23:14]<ceardach>nomad411: you're kidding, right?
[00:23:19]<ceardach>ComputerNap: what is the error you are having?
[00:23:28]<nomad411>yeah, I do expect loads of change :)
[00:23:32]<nomad411>hence the books
[00:23:37]<ceardach><giggle>
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[00:24:03]<nomad411>Is themeing hugely different?
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[00:24:12]<ComputerNap>ceardach: not really getting an error. I have two presets and they simply don't create images. I have broken links and the image isn't created
[00:24:19]<ComputerNap>the folders aren't created either
[00:24:51]<ceardach>ComputerNap: is the files directory world writable? What is your image setting?
[00:25:22]<ceardach>nomad411: I didn't notice a huge difference. I did have to update the themes, though.
[00:25:25]<ComputerNap>Yes, it's world writable. Image setting is scale to 900px wide
[00:25:50]<ceardach>ComputerNap: what is the setting under "image toolkit"
[00:26:22]<ComputerNap>No image toolkits found. Drupal will use PHP's built-in GD library for image handling.
[00:26:22]<ComputerNap>The built-in GD2 toolkit is installed and working properly.
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[00:27:14]<ceardach>hmmmm
[00:27:37]<ceardach>what is the imagecache code?
[00:28:08]<ComputerNap>what do you mean?
[00:28:36]<ceardach>ComputerNap: to create the newly sized image, what is the code you are using?
[00:28:54]<ceardach>ComputerNap: like, theme('imagecache'.... blah blah
[00:29:31]<ComputerNap>I'm not using any code. I have it set up in a custom content type attache to an image field
[00:30:37]<ceardach>ComputerNap: what version of drupal and imagecache are you using?
[00:31:40]<ComputerNap>drupal 5.7 and imagecache 5.x-20
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[00:32:01]<ceardach>ComputerNap: lemmi look at what changed in v2. I haven't used it yet.
[00:32:10]<ComputerNap>alright
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[00:32:27]<ceardach>ComputerNap: using imageapi?
[00:32:35]<ComputerNap>yes
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[00:35:00]<ceardach>ComputerNap: It's going to take me a bit to look into it. Feel free to keep the question open for others to answer.
[00:35:14]<ComputerNap>Alright. Anyone else know? :)
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[00:52:16]<sodani>does anyone know how to add a checkbox to a node form and have it save along with the nid?
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[00:52:32]<NateXide>Guys, need some help thinking real quick. I need to certain nodes only viewable by certain users. suggestions?
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[00:52:43]<brenda003>NateXide, content access module
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[00:52:57]<brenda003>sodani, just use CCK.
[00:53:05]<NateXide>brenda003: is that per node or per node type?
[00:53:31]<sodani>brenda003: cck seems to be broken for single checkbox fields
[00:54:23]<brenda003>NateXide, both.
[00:54:32]<brenda003>sodani, drupal 6?
[00:54:42]<sodani>brenda003: 5.7
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[00:54:53]<brenda003>sodani, hmm, works for me.
[00:55:55]<sodani>brenda003: the value is getting saved to the database and prefills the fields when you go to the edit form again?
[00:58:47]<brenda003>sodani, that would be what i mean by working, yeah.
[00:59:34]<NateXide>thanks brenda003, you're a doll
[00:59:56]<NateXide>(that mean you are very nice)
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[01:01:23]<ceardach>ComputerNap: Ok, I think I see what you're doing. Are you going to "display fields" under your content type with the imagefield and selecting one of your imagecache configurations?
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[01:02:06]<NateXide>ok, new issue, imagecache profile by user, ie, anon users get profile thumb_with_watermark, reg user gets thumb_nowatermark
[01:02:10]<sodani>I tried another installation, but still not working
[01:02:41]<sodani>brenda003: which version of cck are you using?
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[01:05:44]<_DT>sodani: you probably just need to enter the allowed values for the checkbox
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[01:07:08]<sodani>_DT: oh, I didn't realize those were necessary. will try again
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[01:07:35]<_DT>yeh, there's help text at the top of the settings form ;-)
[01:08:08]<_DT>For a 'Single on/off checkbox' widget, define the 'off' value first, then the 'on' value in the Allowed values section. Note that the checkbox will be labeled with the label of the 'on' value.
[01:08:19]<_DT>*quote
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[01:10:56]<sodani>_DT: ahh thanks!
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[01:11:46]<sodani>and here I was struggling to code that functionality
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[01:12:28]<vinceyoumans>anyone doing LightBox2 stuf?
[01:12:29]<_DT>heh, np
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[01:20:07]<ComputerNap>ceardach: Yes
[01:20:13]<ComputerNap>I'm using the display fields
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[01:25:01]<NateXide>how do test for a role in a .tpl.php ?
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[01:26:30]<PaulATL>NateXide: I've never tried this, but can you call user_access('xxx') from a .tpl.php file? (where xxx is a permission -- not a role, but might help)
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[01:28:26]<emmajane>NateXide: http://api.drupal.org/api/function/user_access/5
[01:28:36]<NateXide>thansk
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[01:35:27]<level09>any 1 done some lightbox customizations ?
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[01:55:58]<Symmetry>my drupal install keeps generating mysql errors Warning: Specified key was too long; max key length is 767 bytes query: CREATE TABLE action. what do I do?
[01:57:09]<emmajane>What have you done so far?
[01:57:16]<emmajane>Have you actually gotten it installed?
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[02:00:25]<Bigmack83>ok when a role is created it always automatically has the auth role, but on the admin/user/user window, the list of users that is show, it also shows the roles each user has. But all the users that have more than just auth role it doesnt show as auth. Clicking on the user it shows them as an auth user though. Could this be why my auth users are unable to see any views? a pic is here: http://dc11.4shared.com/download
[02:01:38]<emmajane>the image doesn't exist there, Bigmack83
[02:02:04]<Bigmack83>hmm, both of them? ok hold on
[02:02:38]<NateXide>hey guys, when i call user_access, im getting a unexpected T_STRING fatal error... <?php if user_access("view imagecache display_nowatermark"): ?>
[02:02:39]<Bigmack83>http://www.4shared.com/file/53028104/9129432d/user1.html and here http://www.4shared.com/file/53028105/e62e73bb/user2.html
[02:02:43]<Symmetry><emmajane>, no
[02:02:55]<Symmetry>im going through the installation and thsoe errors come up
[02:03:09]<emmajane>Symmetry: what version of mysql are you running?
[02:03:35]<Symmetry>1.2.12
[02:03:42]<emmajane>erm, I wouldn't think so.
[02:04:01]<Symmetry>drupal 6.2
[02:04:12]<emmajane>Symmetry: what version of the database are you running?
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[02:04:26]<emmajane>3x or 4x or 5x?
[02:04:34]<_DT>NateXide: to check the user role: global $user; if(in_array('role', $user->roles)) { //user has role }
[02:04:56]<Symmetry>6.04
[02:05:29]<Bigmack83>anyone think that what those pics shows may be the reason that none of my basic auth users can see any view i create?
[02:05:31]<Samonoske>anyone know how i can make a new users block http://3gforfree.com/web/ <-- like the one here
[02:06:52]<Bigmack83>samonoske: which block are you referring to?
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[02:07:05]<ZGirl>Hi - I'm making a module for D6. I can't seem to get my path permissions to show up in the permissions admin page. I've tried running menu_rebuild(), but still the module's options don't come up. I'm adding a line like this to my menu item's array: 'access arguments' => array('manage auctions'),
[02:07:07]<Bigmack83>oh nvm i see
[02:07:12]<emmajane>Bigmack83: why aren't you using Drupal's built-in "authenticated" user role?
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[02:07:27]<emmajane>Symmetry: at what point in teh install is it failing?
[02:07:39]<Bigmack83>emmajane: i am,
[02:07:44]<emmajane>Symmetry: can you see if the tables are created?
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[02:08:13]<Symmetry>right after i tell it what my db name, login and password are
[02:08:30]<emmajane>Bigmack83: I'm on v5, does "authenticated user" actually show up in a user profile in v6?
[02:08:30]<Symmetry>i looked and the tables arent created.. should i use an earlier version of mysql?
[02:08:51]<Bigmack83>that user is listed and shown as an auth user, but in the first pic it doesnt show. i feel like ive eliminated all the other possibilities on why that user cant see a view
[02:09:27]<emmajane>Symmetry: I use MySQL v5
[02:09:51]<emmajane>Symmetry: it shouldn't show up in /user1.html
[02:09:56]<Bigmack83>in the admin view of the user (admin/user/user) (the first pic) apparently not but when i 'edit' the user auth is checked
[02:10:20]<emmajane>Bigmack83: have you marked the view as being available to authenticated users?
[02:10:46]<emmajane>Bigmack83: what is the error message that non-editor users are getting?
[02:11:51]<NateXide>!nopaste
[02:12:03]<Bigmack83>emmajane: no errors, just doesnt shoe. view is 'unrestricted' and auth user can access all content and access all views
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[02:12:16]<Bigmack83>*just doesnt show
[02:12:17]<NateXide>i guess i cant do that, whats the no paste site's url?
[02:12:41]<emmajane>pastebin?
[02:12:41]<Druplicon> Please don't paste code directly into IRC. Use http://drupalbin.com or http://pastebin.ca or http://pastebin.org or http://pastie.textmate.org instead.
[02:13:32]<emmajane>Bigmack83: can they access the content from something other than that view? maybe there's something else that's preventing the display that isn't to do with the view? e.g. a taxonomy restriction.
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[02:14:58]<NateXide>hey guys, if any one can take a look at this, its not working as expected, infact im not getting this output at all, if you could tell me if anything looks wrong or suspect i'd be much abliged.. http://drupalbin.com/2233
[02:15:06]<Bigmack83>samonoske: that user block would probably be a combo of views, panels and some hand coding of css. i agree though thats a slick panel. Makes me want to try it to
[02:15:09]<Samonoske>Bigmack83 you know how i'd do it?
[02:15:45]<Bigmack83>samonoske: yes the actual content they can access no problem
[02:15:54]<Bigmack83>samonoske: ?
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[02:18:09]<Samonoske>Bigmack83
[02:19:23]<Bigmack83>samonoske: how would you do it?
[02:19:43]<Samonoske>I'm not really sure how.. That's why i'm trying to get some help
[02:20:06]<Samonoske>lol..Hmm I was referring to earlier about the new user block btw.
[02:20:25]<Bigmack83>what i was thinking is just to make another role called 'student' (since the site is for my school) and just give them all the same permissions
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[02:20:51]<emmajane>NateXide: is that in your X.tpl.php file?
[02:21:05]<NateXide>emmajane: yes
[02:21:23]<Bigmack83>samonoske: oh ok, yea how would you do that? i was thinking using view with the feilds of name, join date, and picture in a table
[02:21:29]<emmajane>and you're logged in as a user that has the correct role assigned?
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[02:21:47]<Bigmack83>yes
[02:21:47]<NateXide>emmajane: yes, has the role and permision for both presets
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[02:22:57]<emmajane>NateXide: which part isn't working? i.e. if you <?php print 'hello'; ?> just inside the condition, do you get anything?
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[02:23:27]<emmajane>NateXide: if you print_r($field_tree_image); does anything get printed to the page?
[02:24:21]<NateXide>emmajane: no, hello doesnt get printed
[02:24:45]<emmajane>and if you print the array of images outside of the role does, does anything get printed?
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[02:25:08]<emmajane>and if you use "authenticated" as the role, does it work?
[02:27:09]<emmajane>sorry, "authenticated user"
[02:27:57]<NateXide>ohh, let me try authenticated user instead
[02:28:06]<Samonoske>when i export a block and recieve that code..does that mean I can inject in one of my pages.. suchas page-front.tpl.php
[02:28:11]<NateXide>should it be "" or ''
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[02:28:38]<emmajane>I don't think it matters...
[02:29:03]<emmajane>I tried doing: <?php global $user; print_r($user->roles); ?> to confirm that my user really did have the roles I thought it did.
[02:29:04]<NateXide>ok, it worked for authenticated users
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[02:29:45]<emmajane>that will also tell you exactly the right spelling you should be using. (maybe the caps are wrong?)
[02:31:05]<NateXide>emmajane: thanks, i dunno why, but now it works
[02:31:13]<emmajane>:)
[02:31:29]<emmajane>cache is evil.
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[02:33:11]<NateXide>now, to extent my <?php if ?> <?php endif ?> with an else statement, how do i do that?
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[02:34:15]<emmajane>NateXide: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/PHP/migration.if-endif.html
[02:35:08]<NateXide>thanks
[02:35:37]<ipwa>in my node template how can I print a link to the node? I'm doing a custom template for the teaser printing fields and want to add a read more link that takes me to the full node
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[02:36:44]<ceardach>l($node->title, 'node/'.$node->nid)
[02:37:11]* emmajane wants a views filter to be OR instead of AND. it doesn't seem to be possible...?
[02:37:40]<ceardach>emmajane: it appears some filters allow OR and some don't.
[02:38:07]* emmajane curses teh filters
[02:38:55]* emmajane wants unpublished nodes AND nodes waiting for moderation. except to get that combined list you have to use OR.
[02:38:57]<ipwa>thanks ceardach :)
[02:39:05]<ceardach>:)
[02:39:10]<emmajane>otherwise nodes have to meet both conditions (which is not the case)
[02:39:23]<NateXide>whats the oppisite of if $teaser ?
[02:39:30]<ceardach>$page
[02:39:34]<NateXide>thanks
[02:39:35]* emmajane bops along to the beastie boys' Brass Monkey.
[02:39:39]<ceardach>or just !$teaser
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[02:51:36]<ipwa>NateXide: are you trying to make a separate teaser and full node template in your node.tpl.php ??
[02:51:36]<ipwa>emmajane: I like contemplates its a nice module and I've used it in several sites, but now I've learned that the same can be done in node.tpl.php
[02:52:13]<emmajane>hehe. not the module. the brain action, ipwa
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[02:52:54]<emmajane>http://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3Acontemplate
[02:52:57]<emmajane>that kind
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[02:54:52]<ceardach>Yeah, I don't use contemplate because it stores too much data in the database, which makes it difficult to version control.
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[02:56:06]<ipwa_>lol!
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[03:03:41]<emmajane>you know you've been spending too much time with drupal when english < drupal modules.
[03:03:45]<emmajane>:)
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[03:28:36]<johnny5>how do i theme what comes before my comments listing on nodes
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[03:30:11]<johnny5>I guess i could add stuff to the bottom of the node
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[03:32:02]<emmajane>johnny5: http://drupal.org/node/11815 or http://drupal.org/node/11816
[03:32:03]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/11815 => Comment.tpl.php => 6 IRC mentions
[03:32:03]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/11816 => Node.tpl.php => 48 IRC mentions
[03:32:39]<emmajane>you can get default templates from one of the default themes (if you are making a custom theme)
[03:34:00]<nickit>anybody know why when i embed myspace playlsits into a content profile, it doesnt seem to work?
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[03:35:38]<emmajane>I have no idea what a myspace playlist is.
[03:35:42]<emmajane>javascript? flash?
[03:35:43]<nickit>like
[03:35:48]<nickit>flashi believe
[03:36:00]<emmajane>please double check...
[03:36:07]<johnny5>comments.tpl.php is what loops for each content, i just want to put a header between my content and the start of user comments. i have one for my form, but the form is below user comments
[03:36:07]<NateXide>hey guys, shouldnt I get a view/edit tabs on top of a node when im viewing it with edit permisions?
[03:36:24]<emmajane>NateXide: only if you also have permission to use that content filter.
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[03:36:35]<nickit>flash
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[03:36:55]<emmajane>nickit: are you using an HTML editor like TinyMCE?
[03:37:02]<nickit>no
[03:37:18]<emmajane>what happens whne you click "submit"?
[03:37:27]<emmajane>Does you code appear in the page?
[03:37:31]<nickit>here
[03:37:54]<emmajane>i get access denied.
[03:38:03]<nickit>hmm
[03:38:08]<nickit>well there is no code,
[03:38:15]<nickit>theres an empty space the size of the playl;sit
[03:38:20]<nickit>playlist*
[03:38:44]<emmajane>what is the code you're pasting from myspace?
[03:39:14]<nickit>ill msg you it
[03:39:33]<emmajane>get rid of the <object> tag.
[03:39:38]<emmajane>just use the <embed>
[03:39:41]<emmajane>that generally works for me.
[03:40:07]<nickit>i tried that,
[03:40:12]<emmajane>and make sure you are on "Full HTML"
[03:40:18]<nickit>but thats when i get the code text
[03:40:22]<nickit>yea i have full html
[03:41:11]<emmajane>what does "code text" mean?
[03:42:06]<nickit>"(11:37:57 PM) emmajane: Does you code appear in the page?'
[03:42:42]<nickit>a little bit of the code appears i believ
[03:42:44]<nickit>let me test it
[03:43:03]<emmajane>If any of the HTML appears in a rendered Web page you are not using Full HTML.
[03:43:24]<nickit>ok, the html doesnt appear
[03:43:27]<emmajane>you would have to "view source" to see whether or not the code is embedded.
[03:43:28]<nickit>but its the same proble
[03:43:53]<nickit>how would i know
[03:44:03]<NateXide>cant I do page-nodetype.tpl.php like I can do node-nodetype.tpl.php?
[03:44:26]<emmajane>NateXide: I think you need to fiddle with the template.php to get that to work.
[03:44:59]<NateXide>emmajane: ohh, well, that just got moved to the bottom of the list
[03:45:07]<nickit>do you mean check the source of the myspace page or durpal page
[03:45:11]<emmajane>hehehe, NateXide
[03:45:24]<emmajane>nickit: the source of the drupal page.
[03:45:33]<nickit>ok
[03:45:49]<emmajane>NateXide: http://drupal.org/node/161617
[03:45:51]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/161617 => Best way to switch page.tpl.php based on node type? => 1 IRC mention
[03:45:55]<NateXide>top of the list might now is that my nodes dont have view | edit tabs, and I think thats why im unable to set content access by node
[03:45:58]<nickit>so what am i looking fore here
[03:46:32]<emmajane>you're looking for the area where the myspace playlist is supposed to be.
[03:46:41]<emmajane>nickit: use control-F to find it
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[03:47:31]<emmajane>NateXide: did you try clicking hte title to actually get to the page?
[03:47:47]<emmajane>NateXide: e.g. if you're in a "view" you can't edit the node directly. you have to be on the node page itself.
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[03:48:37]<NateXide>emmajane: i tried that, i dont think im in a view
[03:49:06]<emmajane>NateXide: what happens when you go to node/nid/edit ?
[03:49:42]<NateXide>i get the edit page, but no tabs
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[03:50:23]<emmajane>NateXide: did you customize a tpl.php and take out the tabs by mistake?
[03:50:28]<NateXide>it works right for page content, but not my custom cck type
[03:50:46]<emmajane>did you remember to turn on editing for the role for that CCK type?
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[03:53:03]<NateXide>yeah, im going to try disabling my .tpl files, see if that does anything
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[03:56:22]<NateXide>what the heck, still no tabs
[03:56:36]<emmajane>cached?
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[03:58:56]<NateXide>cache is turned off, and the pages changed greatly when I renamed node.tpl.php and node-tree.tpl.php
[03:59:55]<emmajane>I'm not sure what else to suggest. I've already given you all the things I know that can go wrong with the edit tabs.:(
[04:00:03]<NateXide>thanks
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[04:00:55]<nickit>bah
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[04:05:55]<motif_>Has anyone ever programmatically submitted a nodereference field?
[04:06:04]<motif_>in 5.x?
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[04:14:22]<nickit>i think you stepped in dog shit on the way here
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[04:31:56]<koolhead17>:-P
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[04:48:22]<vinceyoumans>anyone use the lightbox module with a gallery or flickr or something like that?
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[04:53:00]<robomalo>does views 2 seem jacked to anyone else in d6? i mean, i click on remove a filter, and it won't, i change a filter in one part of the view, and it changes it in another
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[05:03:13]<johnny5>i have a node type for restaurants in my city. i'd like to show them in a view with a large google map and pins representing the nodes locations
[05:04:39]<johnny5>i have the cck map module, but i think that's just for displaying the map within the node
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[05:11:21]<sdondley>anyone out there who can give me a hint on how to nest a drupal form into a node form?
[05:12:08]<sdondley>see http://donnellysenate.prometheuslabor.com/node/add/contribute and "click here to contribute"
[05:12:33]<sdondley>when the donate button is clicked, it does not take you to paypal
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[05:40:55]<nxf>Drupal newbie here... is there a way to make the primary and secondary links blocks (to let the site admin decide on their placement on the page), without rendering a block subject for them?
[05:41:56]<nxf>I.e. override the block template for specific blocks (those that encapsulate the primary and secondary links) ?
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[05:45:07]<johnny5>hey guys. need some locations help. i have the cck map field and i'm selecting with the marker, but in my gmap view that loads in the nodes with the map cck fields i get nothing?!?!
[05:45:17]<johnny5>is it because it's not setting lat/lon for me
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[05:53:39]<mukesh>please check my site and tell me how do i edit the secondary menu...which at the top right sidein the corner. i want to this should be in single line not in <ul> and <li> tag. http://74.222.16.131/mak/drupal5/
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[06:14:40]<andb>mukesh how about you make the li items either- display:inline or float:left
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[06:15:33]<andb>nxf: if yo mean no title on a block, try as title <none>
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[06:17:01]<andb>motif, amazing what you can do in irc on a quiet day
[06:17:29]<andb>^
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[06:17:44]<ZGirl>Hello
[06:17:55]<motif>andb: the desert is very picturesque.
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[06:18:43]<motif>If I squint, through the liquid haze of the summer heat, I can see the pyramids shimmering in the distance...
[06:18:48]<ZGirl>I'm curious if there's a way in D6 to make sure that a node passed to a path (i.e. mail/%node/send) is of a certain type? Maybe something like 'mail/%mail_node/send'?
[06:18:52]<andb>and almost as empty as #drupal-support right now
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[06:19:24]<motif>Ah, but there is much life in the desert... haven't you learned _anything_ from National Geographic?
[06:19:54]<motif>You just need to look closely.
[06:19:59]<andb>but is there must action? Theres life here, 171 users, but not much action....
[06:20:45]<motif>There is the fennec fox. Truly a wonder of action.
[06:20:48]<andb>ZGirl, I havent used d6 yet much, but I dont seem to recall anything like "send" in d5
[06:21:21]<ZGirl>Oh, that's just an example path, but I mean just that %mail_node part
[06:21:29]<ZGirl>like
[06:21:38]<ZGirl>if I made a content type 'mail_node'
[06:21:46]<ZGirl>and just wanted mail nodes passed into my path?
[06:21:57]<ZGirl>I guess this is similar to just %node, but with a bit more validation
[06:22:01]<ZGirl>without any extra code?
[06:22:14]<motif>Is PathAuto available in D6?
[06:22:23]<ZGirl>Is this the type of thing that I might suggest to they developers? Or maybe even try to implement and submit myself?
[06:22:25]<ZGirl>Yes indeed
[06:23:07]<motif>I don't have a lot of experience with that, but I think you might be able to do something like that or tokens.
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[06:23:53]<motif>I'm not being articulate.
[06:23:55]<motif>sorry.
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[06:25:20]<motif>I haven't used it myself, but have watched over the shoulder of someone who is a wizard with it.
[06:25:30]<andb>sounds like pathauto does what you want, doesnt it?
[06:25:33]<motif>I don't know if it would work or not.
[06:25:44]<andb>make each node type have a special path
[06:26:01]<andb>blogs can go to /blog/year/month/day/title for example
[06:26:33]<ZGirl>I think this new menu system is killer
[06:26:36]<ZGirl>Thanks yallz
[06:26:54]<motif>that's allyallz where I come from
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[06:27:40]<motif>Hope it works well for you.
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[06:42:10]<Zabu>Hey, does anyone know what the php function for numbering mysql rows in drupal 5?
[06:44:27]<_DT>you're probably thinking of an auto-increment index value that is controlled by mysql, not php
[06:44:36]<Zabu>no
[06:44:38]<Zabu>=]
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[06:44:58]<Zabu>im looking for the function in drupal that is similar to mysql_num_rows
[06:45:55]<Zabu>I found one in the api.drupal.org area but its mysqli only
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[06:48:38]<_DT>db_num
[06:48:44]<_DT>db_num_rows?
[06:48:44]<Druplicon>db_num_rows: Determine how many result rows were found by the preceding query. => db_num_rows($result) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/db_num_rows/5
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[06:53:52]<_DT>or else you'll need to count the rows yourself
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[07:38:57]<Jeffrey04>how can i set the nodes created by feedapi to be promoted to the front-page automatically?
[07:39:49]<Jeffrey04> Promoted items: The newest N items per feed will be promoted to front page. Leave empty and FeedAPI does not alter the promote property of the feed items. ?
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[08:10:00]<anonymouss>so, I installed simplenews 6.2-dev and although there are no mysql problems (i was getting errors before), it doesn't actually send the newsletter
[08:10:07]<anonymouss>yes, i ran cron
[08:10:33]<anonymouss>and yes I tried disabling the 'use cron' option in newsletter settings
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[08:11:20]<anonymouss>anyone experiencing this?
[08:11:33]<anonymouss>i have the same problem one 2 different servers
[08:11:54]<anonymouss>and both actually can send the confirmation email for drupal
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[08:45:31]<ZGirl>Anyone know the common pitfalls with trying to create a CCK node with drupal_execute in Drupal 6?
[08:45:46]<ZGirl>It's silently failing
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[08:45:51]<ZGirl>thought I know it's running
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[08:46:13]<ZGirl>though*
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[08:49:47]<lyricnz>It's probably not silent - check your php error logs
[08:49:54]<lyricnz>I create notes like that all the time
[08:49:57]<lyricnz>nodes
[08:51:02]<ZGirl>Hmmm - nothing in logs. Also, when I set the $node->name to an inexistent user, I get an error, so I'm sure it's going. Hmmmmm
[08:51:31]<ZGirl>Also, I'm running this inside the nodeapi update of another node - might this be an issue?
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[08:54:09]<lyricnz>Hmmmm, could be, never tried that. Could cause recursion if you're not careful.
[08:54:14]<lyricnz>Maybe Drupal doesn't support that
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[09:59:15]<incorrect>i think when i upgraded my views module, something broke
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[10:17:37]<incorrect>d6 needs a warning, sorry no panels module
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[10:33:46]<Luerssen>hi all guys
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[10:34:26]<muszek>hi
[10:34:26]<Druplicon>bonjour
[10:34:52]<incorrect>morning
[10:34:55]<muszek>translation question: how do I handle the translation of blocks?
[10:35:03]<incorrect>i've managed to break views
[10:35:20]<incorrect>i upgrades ran update.php and its b0rk3d
[10:35:31]<Luerssen>Is there any module/snipper to disable wrapping block into block.box.tpl in selected region? I.e. i need region, who displays block exact as they typed in admin/build/block, without code from block.tpl.php
[10:35:49]<incorrect>is there a way to purge out all views db entries?
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[10:36:52]<Luerssen>truncate views; ?
[10:36:53]<Luerssen>=)
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[10:49:02]<Utter2>how can I set up a View for a profile page that shows only the posts of the user who's profile it is not the user viewing it?
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[10:54:59]<Luerssen>Is there any module/snipper to disable wrapping block into block.box.tpl in selected region? I.e. i need region, who displays block exact as they typed in admin/build/block, without code from block.tpl.php
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[10:58:39]<mukesh>please tell me why my menu is behavig like this.... http://74.222.16.131/mak/drupal5/
[10:59:14]<Luerssen>mukesh, what troubles ?
[10:59:23]<Luerssen>margin between items /
[10:59:25]<Luerssen>?
[10:59:31]<Luerssen>or right-aligned ?
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[10:59:43]<mukesh>its not proper in FF
[10:59:57]<mukesh> and in IE its top is quite low
[11:00:44]<Luerssen>mmm...
[11:00:45]<mukesh>Luerssen: i'm not getting how margin is set here.
[11:00:49]<Luerssen>sry, im safari user )
[11:00:56]<mukesh>ok
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[11:15:03]<mukesh>please tell me why my menu is behaving like this.... http://74.222.16.131/mak/drupal5/
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[11:19:06]<Utter2>mukesh: what is wrong with the margin between the items?
[11:20:02]<Utter2>how can I set up a View for a profile page that shows only the posts of the user who's profile it is not the user viewing it?
[11:20:21]<mukesh>i dont know where is a problem? its not behaving proper....i need help... how do i make it normal?
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[11:23:01]<jayboodhun_>hello
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[11:24:20]<Utter2>mukesh: you have to explain what you mean by normal
[11:25:08]<Utter2>mukesh you cannot expect people here to understand what you mean - you have to explain exactly what is wrong and what you want to happen
[11:25:25]<mukesh>Utter: ok in FF its not behaving right. and in IE its quite lower from the header.
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[11:26:14]<Utter2>but what do you mean by 'not behaving right'?
[11:26:28]<Utter2>what IS right supposed to be? Explain it exactly
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[11:27:18]<mukesh>Utter there is a space margin in two child menu. and around 3px.
[11:28:14]<Utter2>mukesh: I think it's because there is padding on the <ul> and <li> tags
[11:28:35]<mukesh>ok
[11:28:43]<Utter2>mukesh: do you have a stylesheet called layout4_setup.css?
[11:28:50]<mukesh>yes
[11:29:27]<mukesh>Utter: but which class or ID is giving this effect?
[11:29:28]<Utter2>and on line 69 you have this --> .nav2 ul li
[11:30:53]<mukesh>yes
[11:31:18]<mukesh>Utter ok so i have to remove bottom padding
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[11:35:33]<Utter2>mukesh: just put padding: 0; into .nav2 ul li
[11:35:40]<Utter2>and see what happens
[11:35:51]<mukesh>ok
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[11:36:12]<Utter2>this will override the padding that is set on all lists but just for that menu block
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[11:37:53]<mukesh>ok
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[12:02:56]<[algo]>hi
[12:03:01]<[algo]>I have lots of log records
[12:03:11]<[algo]>I'd like to view them
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[12:03:16]<[algo]>which module you'd recommend ?
[12:03:25]<[algo]>log records are not nodes of course, just table recs
[12:03:37]<[algo]>IRC logs
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[12:04:46]<[algo]>I can fix existing module
[12:04:51]<[algo]>similar
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[12:09:46]<mikl>[algo]: you're not making sense
[12:11:04]<[algo]>I see Druplicon
[12:11:12]<[algo]>I'll try it
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[12:13:33]<[algo]>Druplicon: log pointer?
[12:13:33]<Druplicon>http://www.disobey.com/bot/log/drupal-support/2008-06-28#T800030
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[12:15:56]<Bojhan>algo :P your still not making sence
[12:16:00]<Bojhan>sense*
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[12:17:24]<[algo]>doesn't matter
[12:17:30]<[algo]>problem solved
[12:18:01]<[algo]>p.s your comment is not making sense
[12:18:18]<[algo]>it is inaccurate
[12:19:59]<Bojhan>?
[12:21:25]<[algo]>what is no making sense ?
[12:21:29]<[algo]>in my question
[12:21:54]<[algo]>I want to view log records
[12:21:59]<[algo]>from database
[12:22:21]<[algo]>if they were nodes I could use views
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[12:25:03]<Bojhan>You were refering to IRC logs, I dont know what they have to do with them. Anyhow, if they are plainly in a db, you can always just put them into nodes.
[12:25:15]<Bojhan>with cck or so
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[12:34:38]<[algo]>I thought I can put with CCK only nodes ?
[12:35:16]<[algo]>I need records in node table
[12:35:33]<[algo]>can't just leave record in its table
[12:36:09]<[algo]>so to use CCK I have to make lots of extra nodes
[12:38:09]<Bojhan>Ehh, well if you want to have the setup of your log fields, you have to use CCK to read them as nodes.
[12:38:22]<Bojhan>I think you can just ouput them, but you probally have to write something custom then.
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[12:43:16]<vvit_>hello
[12:43:16]<Druplicon>hey
[12:43:36]<vvit_>can anybody help me with flv player
[12:43:41]<vvit_>?
[12:45:35]<mukesh>why my menu is not beahving like this my site http://74.222.16.131/mak/drupal5/ eg. site http://www.1234.info/webtemplates/multiflex3/
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[12:51:01]<DjNaF>hello all, i am usign drupal 5.7, and i need to customize advanced search, to add Node Date Range, and if possible to change taxonomy terms to checkboxes, any idea how to that??
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[12:52:17]<dereine>DjNaF: the second can be done easy with hook_form_alter
[12:52:43]<DjNaF>what about adding daterange?
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[13:11:40]<niminimi>hello everyone
[13:12:13]<niminimi>i have a question regarding drupal and SEO
[13:13:20]<niminimi>my site was crawled by Google but it's crawler couldn't find my site's index.html file
[13:13:39]<dereine>because drupal has no index.html file?
[13:14:13]<niminimi>the thing is, i cjecked under Google Webmaster tools and specifies this as an error
[13:14:45]<niminimi>am i loosing points on not having an index.html file?
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[13:15:21]<xap77>hi there
[13:16:51]<niminimi>i could make a 301 redirect to my homepage
[13:17:11]<niminimi>would that be the right thing to do? or should i just leave things the way they are?
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[13:17:44]<xap77>stupid question: is there a way in php to get a users port address? or is the host ip address the most unique thing you can get?
[13:17:47]<ceardach>niminimi: where are you seeing this warning?
[13:18:31]<niminimi>when i log into Google Webmaster Tools - under the site's crawler stats
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[13:19:44]<ceardach>niminimi: I see "diagnostics > web crawl" is that it?
[13:20:59]<ceardach>niminimi: or is it "statistics > crawl stats" ?
[13:20:59]<niminimi>overview -> Web crawl errors -> Not found -> index.html 404 not found
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[13:22:03]<ceardach>niminimi: ah ha, I see. Ok, I'm not getting that error on my drupal sites, so I don't think this is a Drupal error.
[13:22:38]<ceardach>niminimi: are you sending your site map to them?
[13:22:41]<niminimi>oh, maybe I am linking to the index file from somewhere so google crawled that link?
[13:22:45]<niminimi>no
[13:22:55]<ceardach>niminimi: Have you used the domain previously that had an index.html file?
[13:23:07]<ceardach>niminimi: and yes, there could be a link out there pointing to index.html, too
[13:23:37]<niminimi>ceardach: if you type in yoursite.com/index.html do you see your homepage?
[13:23:52]<niminimi>or do you get a 404
[13:24:10]<ceardach>niminimi: 404
[13:24:35]<niminimi>oh ok so i think then i must linking to that page from somewhere...
[13:24:57]<ceardach>niminimi: you could set up a redirect. You could use path alias to redirect to your homepage.
[13:25:36]<niminimi>the only thing i'm afraid of is that google might see this as duplicate content
[13:26:34]<ceardach>niminimi: if you use the url_redirects module, you can set it to redirect with a 301
[13:27:30]<niminimi>oh i didn't know there was a module for this. Great i'll try that
[13:28:01]<niminimi>thanks
[13:28:44]<Utter2>can I create a view or a .tpl file for a page if it's created by OG Panels?
[13:29:10]<ceardach>niminimi: yeah, it's great. It redirects all duplicate URLs with a 301. For example, node/$nid paths, too.
[13:29:52]<ceardach>niminimi: for other SEO stuff, you should also look at xmlsitemaps
[13:30:12]<niminimi>thanks i will
[13:31:47]<vvit_>can somebody help me with flvmedia player and xspf play list?
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[13:32:48]<incorrect>i need to purge views from my site and reinstall, can anyone point me in the right direction for doing this?
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[13:34:11]<ceardach>incorrect: I think if you just disable the module, then go to the uninstall tab, it'll remove all it's stuff from the database.
[13:34:45]<incorrect>ceardach, ok i tried that and when i enabled it again all my old config was there
[13:35:27]<DjNaF>i am not trying to do stuff, i am just learning, but is there a way to know tables names without guessing?
[13:35:38]<ceardach>incorrect: even after going through the uninstall process?
[13:35:44]<incorrect>yep
[13:35:55]<ceardach>incorrect: huh... well... then I'd just manually delete each view
[13:36:24]<ceardach>DjNaF: how do you mean? I'd always just look at the database
[13:37:27]<incorrect>thank that might be the way to do it
[13:37:31]<DjNaF>ceardach: i am develping a website, and i need an advanced search engine, the current drupal engine, doesnt have search through date range
[13:38:29]<ceardach>DjNaF: instead of creating one from scratch, it may be possible to do it with views and exposed filters in a view
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[13:38:58]<DjNaF>do you mean views fastsearch?
[13:39:34]<ceardach>I haven't looked at that module in specific, but you can do keyword search and date ranges on just normal views
[13:40:07]<incorrect>ok i saw the views db tables drop
[13:40:20]<incorrect>however views seems to have stopped returning results
[13:41:11]<tjazzvibe>hey everybody, speaking of views is there any away to show users in some sort of view that will help others find members in there area where they live
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[13:42:40]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: I think that is an option within the profile module. But you can't sort through users with views... views only can see nodes
[13:42:52]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: however, it may be possible with views2 on D6
[13:43:05]<incorrect>how can i debug why views can't return any results?
[13:43:15]<tjazzvibe>oh man, i haven't even thought about d6 yet. yikes!
[13:43:35]<ceardach>incorrect: ok, so you tried to uninstall it, but you still saw settings. Then you deleted all views, created a new one, and now it doesn't work?
[13:43:51]<tjazzvibe>i'll check the profile module. thanks for your help, i did just see a module that turns users into nodes.
[13:43:52]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: hahaha... good, I'm not much help with D6 questions right now.
[13:44:09]<ceardach>I did set up a test install so I could help answer some questions
[13:44:38]<tjazzvibe>oh man, i get depressed when i think about switching versions
[13:44:45]<incorrect>i guess i could delete all the views
[13:44:53]<incorrect>then uninstall/reinstall
[13:44:54]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: yup, there's a couple. bio, nodeuser and nodeprofile.
[13:45:26]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: depressed? why? I'll probably wait until fall or something at this point. Important modules aren't even out of alpha/beta yet.
[13:45:30]<tjazzvibe>hmmm, do you recommend any of them? i have a jazz site and users want to search for local people to jam with
[13:46:06]<tjazzvibe>because i think it will be difficult to switch.... smoothly
[13:46:07]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: I tried them all just over a year ago. I honestly don't remember which I chose, however, thats a years development in that time and they could have changed.
[13:46:27]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: do you have existing profile settings?
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[13:47:38]<tjazzvibe>i'm sorry, what do you mean? extra profile settings that i added manually?
[13:48:04]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: yes, did you enable the profile module and add profile fields for your users?
[13:48:36]<tjazzvibe>yeah, i add a location and a willingness to jam with others box
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[13:49:36]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: ok, so then when you install one of these modules to make a node for each user, you'll want to transfer that information to the node. I wrote up how to make mass changes here: http://ceardach.com/blog/2008/06/how-make-mass-changes-nodes-drupal
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[13:51:55]<tjazzvibe>ok so i install module and then have to convert manually or through your instructions all the settings i added/
[13:51:56]<tjazzvibe>?
[13:52:21]<ceardach>basically, yeah
[13:52:29]<tjazzvibe>looking at your blog now. tx!!
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[13:54:19]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: so for you, you'd query for all users, load the user's profile, load the user's node, then have the profile data equal the appropriate field in the node, then save the node for the changes to stick.
[13:54:56]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: just to make sure.... you'll be doing this on a development site, yes? :)
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[13:55:07]<incorrect>hmm view db tables go but bug presists
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[13:55:16]<incorrect>there must be something else i need to delete
[13:55:21]<tjazzvibe>either that (probably will) or back up the db before i start(late at night)
[13:55:35]<ceardach>incorrect: look through your database for any other table that begins with "views"
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[13:56:10]<incorrect>probably something in system
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[13:56:11]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: I also have a blog post about development workflow :) Take a peek at it.
[13:56:31]<tjazzvibe>you've already been bookmarked!
[13:56:44]<ceardach>incorrect: maybe. It would be a row starting with "views_
[13:56:51]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: thanks :)
[13:56:52]<tjazzvibe>i appreciate people like you taking the time to do all this
[13:57:15]<incorrect>ceardach, i deleted one
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[13:57:23]<incorrect>hmm, where else
[13:57:23]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: this is actually entertaining for me :) What else am I going to do on a Saturday morning?
[13:57:49]<ceardach>incorrect: you could do a dump of the database, then grep it for "views_"
[13:58:00]<tjazzvibe>ha ha ha. should i make a list!?
[13:58:12]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: nah, then I might go do something else
[13:58:13]<incorrect>good idea!
[13:58:15]<incorrect>thanks
[13:58:19]<ceardach>However, I do need to walk the dog
[13:58:22]<tjazzvibe>you're right, forget that! stay here!!!!
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[13:58:54]<ceardach>I was thinking of walking around downtown with her. I haven't walked around down town, and I've lived here 10 years!
[13:59:19]<tjazzvibe>speaking of things to do, just got called for chauffer duty. thanks for you help!!
[13:59:29]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: oki, enjoy your day
[13:59:29]<incorrect>wow loads of views
[13:59:31]<tjazzvibe>downtown? not philly by any chance?
[13:59:41]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: nah, Providence
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[13:59:58]<tjazzvibe>damn, thought i had a drupal maybe close by! getting yelled at. i'm off
[14:00:09]<ceardach>tjazzvibe: bye!
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[14:02:53]<CBro2007>guys can someone help me install Drupal 6 on CentOS 5?
[14:02:58]<xap77>is it possible to get not only the user ip address, but the user port address as well?
[14:03:03]<CBro2007>I have Apache, MySQL and PHP5 installed on the box
[14:03:06]<ceardach>CBro2007: what seems to be the problem?
[14:03:14]<CBro2007>s there a video tutorial on how to install Drupal on Linux?
[14:03:37]<CBro2007>I had installed Drupal on my MacOSX a whille back using MAMP
[14:03:44]<ceardach>CBro2007: supposedly, it's very simple. Upload the files, go to the URL, and answer the questions.
[14:04:02]<ceardach>CBro2007: you'd need to also previously set up a database
[14:04:10]<CBro2007>Yeah I haven't done all that
[14:04:21]<CBro2007>I had followed a cool video from lullabot last time
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[14:04:34]<CBro2007>about how you can setup MySQL to work with your Drupal site
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[14:04:50]<CBro2007>Would the install be the same on LINUX?
[14:05:07]<ceardach>CBro2007: :) Well, give it a shot and see if it works. The drupal installer should set up the database to link to your files for you.
[14:05:23]<nicjasno>linux is far superior for that
[14:05:40]<CBro2007>far superior for what?
[14:05:41]<nicjasno>centos... hm.. never worked with that distro
[14:05:42]<ceardach>CBro2007: The difference in installing D5 and D6 are not large. also, the environment you install on is not that different either.
[14:05:48]<nicjasno>for running a web server
[14:05:57]<CBro2007>Yeah I know
[14:06:09]<nicjasno>and for everything else
[14:06:11]<CBro2007>Ok will see how Drupal works on Linux
[14:06:32]<ceardach>nicjasno: A lot of web hosts use CentOS... I forget who the parent distro is (you know, like Red Hat > Fedora)
[14:06:45]<CBro2007>Red Hat
[14:06:52]<CBro2007>Redhat Enterprise Edition
[14:06:58]<nicjasno>ah yeah
[14:07:01]<nicjasno>i figured
[14:07:03]<ceardach>really? hmm
[14:07:08]<nicjasno>it's either redhat or debian
[14:07:08]<CBro2007>its exactly the same...
[14:07:09]<ceardach>I thought it was someone else
[14:07:20]<CBro2007>Nah its the same as RHEL
[14:07:29]<nicjasno>yeah
[14:07:31]<nicjasno>that's fine
[14:07:34]<CBro2007>we use it for installation of things like Oracle.. which recommends using RHEL
[14:07:43]<CBro2007>but who can be bothered paying for RHEL
[14:07:44]<CBro2007>:)
[14:07:47]<nicjasno>hehe
[14:07:53]<nicjasno>that's why you use debian
[14:07:59]<CBro2007>aha
[14:08:01]<nicjasno>or ubuntu server
[14:08:13]<nicjasno>doesn't really matter
[14:08:49]<ceardach>We use fedora at my company
[14:09:11]<nicjasno>i have a dislike for rpm based distros
[14:09:43]<nicjasno>but the basic stuff is usually no problem
[14:09:48]<nicjasno>a lamp is a lamp
[14:09:57]<nicjasno>no matter how you look a it
[14:10:27]<ceardach>yeah
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[14:12:55]<CBro2007>Found a good link that installs Drupal on CentOS 5
[14:13:04]<CBro2007>http://quadruple.ca/topics/centos
[14:13:08]<incorrect>is views for d6 broken for others?
[14:13:11]<CBro2007>looks good will give it a shot
[14:13:34]<ceardach>incorrect: I haven't used it myself, however I helped others who were and it seemed to work
[14:13:40]<CBro2007>If you had a choice between installing D6 or D5 which one would u guys go for?
[14:13:47]<incorrect>ceardach, it was working for me
[14:13:53]<incorrect>and it has just stopped
[14:13:54]<CBro2007>Is D6 stable?
[14:14:04]<incorrect>CBro2007, yes and no
[14:14:07]<ceardach>CBro2007: D6 core is stable. The modules are not.
[14:14:18]<incorrect>yes its stable, no there aren't many modules for it
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[14:14:29]<ceardach>incorrect: did it stop working before or after you tried uninstalling it?
[14:14:34]<CBro2007>hmmm
[14:14:48]<incorrect>ceardach, well i hadn't done anything on my site for some time
[14:15:02]<incorrect>i upgraded views
[14:15:05]<ceardach>CBro2007: I give it another month or two for the modules to catch up. Unless the developers decide being outside is more fun... then longer. hehe.
[14:15:11]<incorrect>it worked for a view days
[14:15:15]<incorrect>maybe cache holidng it up
[14:15:23]<incorrect>now i just get blank pages
[14:15:26]<CBro2007>hmm I suppose I just want a very basic site at the moment
[14:15:30]<CBro2007>can wait for a moment
[14:15:51]<CBro2007>ok back to installing the stuff
[14:15:52]<incorrect>panels and views should be part of core
[14:15:55]<ceardach>CBro2007: For a very basic site, D6 would be fine.
[14:16:06]<CBro2007>yeah thats my guess
[14:16:39]<ceardach>incorrect: I think they're trying to pull in either views or CCK fields into core for D7. However, development has been very slow, so they're actually going to delay code freeze.
[14:17:07]<incorrect>d7?
[14:17:22]<ceardach>incorrect: yes, D7 is currently in development.
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[14:17:25]<incorrect>ah
[14:17:45]<incorrect>d6 only just came out
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[14:18:23]<ceardach>D7 was supposed to go into code freeze in two weeks, but all the main developers have been focusing on porting modules to D6 that there hasn't been much work on D7
[14:18:43]<incorrect>that is kind of them
[14:18:55]<ceardach>Plus, no major D6 sites are out there, and neither has Drupal.org been ported to D6. So, they want to wait until D6 has been tested in production.
[14:19:06]<incorrect>feature freeze?
[14:19:09]<incorrect>oh
[14:19:14]<incorrect>damn i would have used d5
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[14:20:28]<incorrect>well i doubt the sites can move to d6 as the modules they are probably using aren't there
[14:20:38]<ceardach>incorrect: exactly
[14:20:52]<incorrect>oh :)
[14:20:54]<ceardach>My must have modules are CCK, Views and Workflow
[14:21:10]<incorrect>i think a lot of people use panels
[14:21:22]<ceardach>CCK and Views are now usable, however, the workflow module hasn't even begun to be ported
[14:21:28]<incorrect>it really makes it easy to create good sites with those
[14:21:40]<ceardach>incorrect: I've never actually used panels
[14:21:43]<incorrect>views is much improved
[14:22:22]<incorrect>ceardach, it is create for throwing up complex pages driven from views
[14:22:39]<ceardach>yup
[14:23:07]<incorrect>more cck types need to be taken into core too
[14:23:25]<incorrect>imho
[14:23:45]<incorrect>the forums are much improved i think in d6
[14:23:46]<robomalo>i am stuck in D5 for everything too
[14:24:14]<incorrect>yeah my d6 site development has slowed
[14:24:25]<incorrect>as i am wanting for modules
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[14:26:52]<incorrect>i wonder if the current views module for d6 is broken
[14:27:08]<Utter2>incorrect: I think it works...
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[14:27:28]<incorrect>Utter2, i just get plank pages
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[14:27:46]<Utter2>I haven't really started using D6 yet but I have an install on a sandbox and was showing it to someone on here earlier this week
[14:27:55]<incorrect>even purged all views entries and reinstalled
[14:29:23]<Utter2>http://utter.no-ip.com/utterdrupal/ <-- this shows a page with a frontpage that's a View
[14:29:51]<Utter2>not that there's anything on it but it shows Views is working
[14:30:59]<Tr0yNT>how come blocks disappear on 404 page?
[14:31:02]<Tr0yNT>e.g. menus
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[14:31:13]<Tr0yNT>user cant navigate from the 404 page
[14:31:42]<ceardach>Tr0yNT: I think it's a known bug
[14:32:26]<Tr0yNT>yea I found where it was hardcoded into the common.inc
[14:32:29]<Tr0yNT>but geez
[14:32:40]<Tr0yNT>who came up w/ that idea...
[14:32:50]<Tr0yNT> print theme('page', $return, FALSE);
[14:33:21]<Tr0yNT>"To conserve CPU and bandwidth, omit the blocks"
[14:34:02]<Tr0yNT>oh well fixed it, *whew*
[14:34:11]<Tr0yNT>had to hack the core so when i update i'll be scratching my head
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[14:34:49]<ceardach>Tr0yNT: Hmm... since it's theme, perhaps you could override it in your template instead of hacking core?
[14:34:59]<incorrect>this is a close of my frontpage from views http://www.mushmachine.com/news
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[14:35:08]<incorrect>it just returns 0 results all the time
[14:36:12]<Tr0yNT>ceardach: The false says dont render blocks i think... because i removed it and my blocks are back
[14:36:55]<Tr0yNT>ceardach: your probably right..
[14:37:09]<ceardach>D6 or D5?
[14:37:30]<nicdc>Dose the Flashvideo module have its own IRC channel?
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[14:40:20]<Tr0yNT>ceardach: D5
[14:41:02]<Tr0yNT>nicdc: you can ask here :-\
[14:41:05]<Tr0yNT>nicdc: worth a shot
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[14:41:22]<Tr0yNT>nicdc: i recommend blip.tv for flash video
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[14:41:42]<Tr0yNT>nicdc: good quality and free .. you can brand the player too
[14:41:43]<ceardach>Tr0yNT: I'm looking through it... I can't see how you could disable the ability to disable blocks via the theme level. It's a little convoluted.
[14:41:53]<ipwa>nicdc: no channel for that module, really very rarely a module has a channel dedicated to it like #drupal-ubercart
[14:42:21]<ipwa>Tr0yNT: Flashvideo lets you convert any video file to Flash, with ffmpeg, like Youtube
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[14:43:36]<Tr0yNT>ceardach: how many users will be using the feature?
[14:43:39]<Tr0yNT>oops
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[14:43:48]<level09>hey
[14:43:48]<Druplicon>what's up
[14:43:50]<Tr0yNT>nicdc: how many users will be converting the flash video?
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[14:44:09]<ceardach>thats great about Flashvideo. You guys just saved me doing some research. hahaha.
[14:44:17]<nicdc>At the same time? o
[14:44:23]<Tr0yNT>nicdc: just in general
[14:44:35]<level09>any drupalers that use autocad :D
[14:44:35]<ceardach>I gotta implement converting videos to flash on a site shortly
[14:44:41]<Tr0yNT>nicdc: like more than you?
[14:44:46]<ceardach>level09: I am familiar with it.
[14:44:50]<nicdc>Yes, about 100 users
[14:44:59]<Tr0yNT>nicdc: k, blip.tv is a no go then
[14:45:02]<ceardach>level09: Got my degree in architecture
[14:45:04]<level09>I want to export a map for a shopping mall
[14:45:09]<level09>great :D
[14:45:35]<level09>rendering the map gives non clear image
[14:45:40]<level09>exporting to EPS takes ages
[14:45:44]<ceardach>level09: Ok... the one thing I remember the most.... was that exporting and printing anything was always a huge bitch. People would huddle around a computer trying to help each other.
[14:46:14]<level09>so should I just print screen :D ?
[14:46:20]<ceardach>level09: yes :D
[14:46:38]<ceardach>level09: I was actually just thinking that, "Is there any possible way a solution to this could be 'print screen' ?"
[14:47:16]<ceardach>level09: See... I used DataCAD. Loved it. So much easier.
[14:47:16]<level09>great, I thought it was just me
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[14:47:31]<level09>is it expensive ?
[14:47:53]<ceardach>level09: they're all expensive. Like sell your heart for the cash kinda expensive
[14:48:00]<level09>:D
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[14:48:25]<ceardach>level09: My high school teacher gave me a copy of DataCAD. He was a great guy.
[14:48:28]<level09>okay then, how do I change the black background ?
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[14:48:49]<ceardach>level09: I know thats possible. I.. just don't remember how. heh.
[14:49:03]<ceardach>level09: Maybe there's an #autocad channel? gotta be with all the students, right?
[14:49:17]<ceardach>and it's empty
[14:49:27]<level09>yeah no problem
[14:49:40]<level09>so anyways I'm gonna try my chances with printscreen and photshop
[14:49:49]<ceardach>level09: oki :)
[14:49:51]<level09>thanx for the help :)
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[14:51:03]<nicdc>When ever i try and upload a video over 120MB with the file upload module and Flash video, Some times i get a white screen and some times it just says "Please attach a file". What could i do to solve this?
[14:51:25]<ceardach>nicdc: It's likely that your server is not configured to be able to handle uploads of that size
[14:51:35]<ceardach>nicdc: Frequently the limit is 2-5mb
[14:51:56]<nicdc>Yeh, but i can go to 100MB, I also set up the PHP.ini file to allow upto 400MB
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[14:52:09]<patchak>hwo can I build a taxonomy menu that lists all terms and that would expand when you are looking at some specific term ??
[14:52:15]<level09>you should set upload limit in many places
[14:52:19]<ceardach>nicdc: There may be something else that is the bottleneck
[14:52:20]<patchak>for example when I'm the taxonomy/term page for a specific term, the same block then display all child terms.. ?
[14:52:20]<level09>besides ur php.ini
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[14:52:47]<ceardach>nicdc: I'd say that it's definitely server related as opposed to module related.
[14:53:01]<level09>taxonomy_dhtml?
[14:53:10]<nicdc>ok
[14:57:12]<nicdc>How can i setup Personal messaging between users on a drupal? I tried the Privatemsg module but it looks horrible with my drupal theme...
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[14:58:31]<patchak>nicdc: not sure there are other alternatives...
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[14:59:16]<drwits>looking for somebody familiar with simplenews, i've defined a new region (above main header) for the simplewnews block... i need help theming the actual block
[14:59:27]<incorrect>oh the views module seems to be generating broken SQL
[14:59:52]<drwits>i would like to change the subscribe/unsubsribe radios to buttons
[15:00:03]<incorrect>i like this development module
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[15:01:14]<ceardach>drwits: Look through the simplenews module and find any functions beginning with "theme_". You can then override that theme in your template.php file of your theme.
[15:02:02]<sutha>drwits: this is not theming, you need a few lines of code to alter the form. If you are familiar with php look at hook_form_alter()
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[15:02:36]<ceardach>drwits: any function beginning with "theme_" can be overridden. If the function is "theme_foo_bar" you would copy the function and rename it "yourtheme_foo_bar" in template.php file. then you can edit the code to behave how you'd wish.
[15:03:25]<drwits>wow thanks for the quick reply guys...
[15:04:13]<ceardach>:D
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[15:07:38]<ldbl>hello to all
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[15:09:43]<ldbl>I'm wondering now to get form values on submit and pass this data to script that is located on different domain
[15:10:11]<ceardach>that......... I wouldn't know
[15:16:33]<drwits>hmmm found the function, and i realized that i really like the logic of already logged in/subscribed users having the radio switch to unsubscribe... seems like too much trouble to change it to buttons and have unsubscribe button highlighted?
[15:16:58]<ceardach>drwits: yeah, I could see that
[15:17:02]<drwits>just thought it would be prettier with buttons on this top bar with 'email''subscribe''unsubscribe'
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[15:18:43]<drwits>guess i'll just keep it inline... email subscribe over unsubscribe (two lines) then submit
[15:18:50]<drwits>lame? opinions?
[15:18:57]<ceardach>can you show a link?
[15:19:12]<drwits>haven't done it yet
[15:19:17]<drwits>about too
[15:19:18]<drwits>lol
[15:19:33]<ceardach>oki :)
[15:19:41]<ceardach>it's hard for me to envision
[15:20:24]<PatMac>Anyone familiar with a theme that is bare bones? (Kind of like atck) Only the basics should be covered through css. Headers, bullets, forms, lists and ect should be styled, but anything concerning layout is not there.
[15:21:03]<ceardach>Zen?
[15:21:03]<Druplicon>Zen is the ultimate starting theme for Drupal. If you are building your own standards-compliant theme, you will find it much easier to start with Zen than to start with Garland or Bluemarine. http://drupal.org/project/zen
[15:21:19]<PatMac>I'm not a fan of zen really
[15:21:31]<PatMac>maybe I haven't looked at it in a while though
[15:21:36]<PatMac>I thought it had a lot of strange ie hacks
[15:21:46]<ceardach>I generally just use my own theme
[15:21:58]<ceardach>maybe I should create a theme project "barebones" haha
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[15:22:09]<PatMac>I could help actually with that
[15:22:28]<ceardach>I have a pretty decent three column layout that I like
[15:22:49]<PatMac>It would be great to have the themes broken down into separate includes
[15:22:59]<ceardach>like what?
[15:24:13]<PatMac>Many flavors of setup. Users should just have to comment in/out lines from their style.css to get the core layout and functionality they want
[15:24:42]<PatMac>I would like to go into my own theme and uncomment something like barebones-black-bg.css
[15:24:42]<ceardach><nods>
[15:25:04]<ceardach>that could be interesting, actually
[15:25:07]<PatMac>very lightweight
[15:25:39]<PatMac>one, two and three columns can be done fairly easily through simple class usage. ATCK does a great job already
[15:25:51]<PatMac>but it's a mess with that wysiwyg builder
[15:25:59]<PatMac>want to group up and build one? :)
[15:26:11]<PatMac>no ie hacks! :D
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[15:27:19]<ojsusu>hi
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[15:29:03]<tassoman>anyone is using feedapi_mapper with flickr apis?
[15:30:06]<ojsusu>hello, anyone that successfully installed drupal on the Vertrigo server?
[15:30:23]<ojsusu>tassoman not yet
[15:30:35]<tassoman>i can't get anything to map to
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[15:35:03]<ceardach>PatMac: Sure. I can create my three column base and we can go from there
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[15:36:15]<PatMac>I always found it tough to adjust the widths of columns in most themes
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[15:36:40]<PatMac>how can we make that easy for people that use our theme?
[15:37:07]<ceardach>PatMac: I have one that works. I wrote it up here: http://ceardach.com/blog/2008/01/three-column-search-engine-optimized-la...
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[15:38:21]<PatMac>OH! also we should build a custom template.php function that can be called to print exactly one of each css object. So we as themers can jump into firebug and target each thing to customize quickly
[15:38:42]<ceardach>PatMac: How do you mean?
[15:38:54]<PatMac>that would be nice. Kind of like what devel does for themers in terms of displaying values
[15:39:33]<PatMac>h1, h2, h3, li ul, ect
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[15:40:40]<PatMac>when you load a theme, you never really get to see everything that needs to be themed on one page
[15:41:07]<ceardach>ahh, I see
[15:41:13]<ceardach>interesting
[15:41:16]<PatMac>that could be useful right?
[15:41:34]<PatMac>form elements and what a single block looks like (lorem ipsum filled)
[15:41:43]<ceardach>Do you have a preference of HTML 4 strict or XHTML 1 strict?
[15:41:58]<PatMac>xhtml primarily
[15:42:00]<PatMac>you?
[15:42:26]<PatMac>I'm not hard set on one practice though, for some reason those kinds of coding standards always eluded me
[15:42:33]<ceardach>thats how I've been for years, however, I was just recently informed that, like, no one uses xhtml correctly because we never send it text/xml
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[15:43:28]<PatMac>so strict html 4?
[15:43:37]<ceardach>lemmi see what zen uses
[15:44:23]<PatMac>I also found a great css startup library that apparently equalizes all browsers in terms of padding
[15:44:48]<ceardach>they're using xhtml. then I say, why change now? hehe. I haven't used html in years
[15:44:55]<PatMac>base-min.css and reset-fonts-grids.css
[15:45:20]<PatMac>heh sure
[15:45:30]<PatMac>as long as it's sturdy!
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[15:46:04]<PatMac>The only issue I found that we need to avoid with a passion is any div ids that have multiple instances with more then one class associated with that type. IE 6 only reads the first one
[15:47:05]<PatMac>#column_right { padding values } #column_right.blue { color values } #column_right.red { color values }
[15:47:19]<PatMac>IE 6 will only read blue. Never red
[15:47:47]<ceardach>should also include an option for equal height columns
[15:48:28]<PatMac>floats or display:tables?
[15:49:21]<ceardach>there's this margin/padding thing
[15:49:27]<ceardach>pretty cool
[15:49:59]<ipwa>taxonomy manager?
[15:50:28]<PatMac>Yeah, the margin-left:250 is great.
[15:50:57]<ipwa>Druplicon: taxonomy manager is a module that provides a powerful interface for managing a taxonomy vocabulary. A vocabulary gets displayed in a dynamic tree view, where parent terms can be expanded to list their nested child terms or can be collapsed. http://drupal.org/project/taxonomy_manager
[15:50:57]<Druplicon>ipwa: Okay.
[15:51:06]<ipwa>taxonomy manager?
[15:51:06]<Druplicon>taxonomy manager is a module that provides a powerful interface for managing a taxonomy vocabulary. A vocabulary gets displayed in a dynamic tree view, where parent terms can be expanded to list their nested child terms or can be collapsed. http://drupal.org/project/taxonomy_manager
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[15:51:15]<ipwa>botsnack
[15:51:15]<Druplicon>thanks, but no drink? I suppose I'll get by.
[15:51:32]<PatMac>I was using a table, table-row, table-cell setup for a while that was cross browser friendly. Firefox and most other browsers would see the table tags and make good use of it, but IE wouldn't (or maybe it was firefox that couldn't see it. I forget)
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[15:52:02]<PatMac>the solution was to include a float left with each table-cell and it worked across the board
[15:52:13]<PatMac>Maybe we should test something?
[15:53:43]<ceardach>cross browser testing is a bitch. haha. Just trying to open all the flippin' browsers
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[15:53:52]<PatMac>lol
[15:54:12]<PatMac>I have a remote machine for IE testing
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[15:55:01]<ceardach>I'm on fedora using virtualbox for a win xp install
[15:55:08]<PatMac>what should be separate css files that are comment in/outable?
[15:55:09]<PatMac>oh nice
[15:56:09]<ceardach>equal height columns. color variations.
[15:56:20]<redct>Is it possible to have it so a user has to get approval from an admin before a node is published? Something like the comment system - you can post, it goes into the queue and an admin approves it
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[15:56:43]<ceardach>redct: I use workflow module for that
[15:56:49]<PatMac>ok, so color variation css files are primarily just color oriented? no padding or anything in them?
[15:57:02]<redct>ceardach: seems to only work with drupal 5x
[15:57:06]<ceardach>redct: I have default setting as "draft" and then the user switches it to "ready for review"
[15:57:17]<ceardach>redct: yes, not in D6 yet
[15:57:28]<redct>know of any D6 alternatives?
[15:57:33]<ceardach>redct: An alternative is to set it as default unpublished, and have admins go through unpublished nodes
[15:57:38]<redct>thanks
[15:58:31]<ceardach>PatMac: My system is to seperate structure from styles in the CSS. I have "structural" CSS
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[15:58:54]<PatMac>that's my goal too
[15:58:55]<ceardach>PatMac: then you can have at it altering the CSS for anything else
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[16:00:57]<PatMac>so we may be looking at layout.css, color-bright.css, color-dark.css, color-custom.css ?
[16:01:30]<McGo>sorry... re. was there an answer to my comment-upload-question?
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[16:02:23]<ceardach>McGo: I did not see your question. Could you repeat it?
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[16:02:58]<McGo>Ok, my fault i think... Is there a module available that allows me to add files as attachments to comments?
[16:03:03]<McGo>drupal 6
[16:03:44]<ceardach>McGo: there is a module for it... however, there's a good chance it hasn't been ported to D6
[16:05:27]<McGo>strange. i search d.org for "comment upload" and didn't find anything. Now there ist is... comment_upload (but as you said not ported yet)
[16:06:16]<PatMac>Drupal.org needs to change their search a whole lot
[16:06:26]<PatMac>nobody can find anything ever
[16:07:42]<ceardach>agreed
[16:07:58]<ceardach>I think newness is weighted too much
[16:08:35]<PatMac>yeah. that's very true. Searching for something like the "services" module, or the more standard modules is a big pain
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[16:11:57]<ceardach>I had a dream last night of using vim. Is that a bad sign?
[16:12:33]<PatMac>vim?
[16:12:33]<Druplicon>Vim is a powerful text editing tool
[16:12:46]<ceardach>command line based text editing tool
[16:12:52]<drwits>having trouble with this code for the simplenews block submit form alteration... posted what they have on drupalbin
[16:13:00]<PatMac>lol
[16:13:28]<drwits>i like the logic until the user is not logged in... want to change it to buttons...
[16:13:32]<ceardach>I had a dream that I got a new job, and they gave me a computer and told me to do some work... and I pulled up vim, and was just happily working along, and my new coworkers were like, "WTF?"
[16:13:44]<NeoID>Is there is a good way of telling drupal to display three blocks on the frontpage (and no other text) and not to display them if you visit a node?
[16:14:05]<ceardach>NeoID: set the blocks to display only on <front>
[16:14:22]<NeoID>ceardach, yes
[16:14:31]<sutha>drwits: which url?
[16:14:42]<drwits>http://drupalbin.com/2238
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[16:15:27]<PatMac>ceardach: I began building some of the basic layouts. I'll mess with it for about an hour and kick it over to you through either pastebin or dcc send
[16:15:59]<NeoID>ceardach, would it be possible to for example have a red background when visiting node1, a green when visiting node2 and blue when visiting node3?
[16:16:04]<ceardach>ok. yeah, I've been trying to get my barebones layout working nice and flexible for all situations
[16:16:25]<drwits>sutha: so line 27... would like to change those radios to two actions like in lines 7-8
[16:16:36]<ceardach>NeoID: yeah, in template.php load different css files depending upon arguments
[16:17:09]<NeoID>ceardach, where can I find the needed code? (Drupal6)? any examples?
[16:17:14]<NeoID>:3
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[16:17:19]<sutha>drwits: this is bad practice. with this code you hack the module.
[16:17:36]<drwits>hmmmmm
[16:18:16]<cgardner>stupid bluetooth headset is acting up... How can I listen to my music when it won't work?
[16:18:27]<sutha>drwits: you can make a small module altering the form
[16:19:24]<ceardach>NeoID: if(arg(0) == 'node' && arg(1) == 'your desired nid' && !arg(2)) { drupal_add_css('path/to/css/file.css', 'theme'); }
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[16:19:42]<NeoID>ceardach, thanks :)
[16:20:27]<ceardach>cgardner: sing instead!
[16:20:54]<cgardner>ceardach: I need my music for that...
[16:20:57]<cgardner>:-D
[16:21:24]<ceardach>cgardner: what... you don't have random music playing in your head all day non stop that you can sing along to?
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[16:23:17]<cgardner>ceardach: sadly, no. :'(
[16:23:56]<ceardach>cgardner: hm.. I don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing. the music in my head sometimes skips into a never ending loop. Somewhat annoying at times.
[16:23:57]<ceardach>:D
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[16:24:47]<drwits>sutha: didn't wanna crowd with newb questions, back
[16:25:07]<sutha>drwits: were all newbies ;)
[16:25:17]<drwits>ha
[16:25:31]<cgardner>drwits: There's a reason this channel is here... it's for questions.
[16:25:38]<drwits>point taken
[16:25:55]<cgardner>so, please... ask away.
[16:26:01]<sutha>drwits: hold on I will dig up some code
[16:26:22]<drwits>okay so back to making this small module. thanks sutha
[16:30:19]<tassoman>hi2all :)
[16:30:26]<cgardner>hey tassoman
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[16:30:36]<tassoman>how can i force a user to use html filter?
[16:30:46]<tassoman>cgardner: yo!
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[16:31:32]<tassoman>i mean, full html
[16:32:11]<sutha>drwits: I got your question wrong
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[16:32:37]<sutha>drwits: just a form_alter is not enough
[16:32:56]<cgardner>tassoman: set it as default and allow it for the roles you want...
[16:33:17]<cgardner>tassoman: they'll still have filtered html available, but full html will be default.
[16:33:54]<ceardach>tassoman: setting as default means *all* users have access to full HTML
[16:34:06]<ceardach>tassoman: if thats not what you want, there is a module that will set the default filter per role
[16:34:17]<tassoman>ceardach: also anonymous?
[16:34:23]<ceardach>tassoman: yes
[16:34:43]<tassoman>i think i should use default filter module
[16:34:44]<cgardner>tassoman: only if you allow anonymous to have it.
[16:34:56]<tassoman>arrh ok
[16:34:57]<cgardner>you can set it so anonymous doesn't have full html
[16:35:09]<tassoman>i have bot, and super roles
[16:35:16]<ceardach>cgardner: default filter as set in core without any modules forces you to allow anonymous access to it
[16:35:18]<tassoman>i don't need html but bot needs
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[16:35:24]<tassoman>because i fetch from rss
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[16:35:48]<tassoman>let me see into filters settings
[16:36:30]<PatMac>I'm here if anyone needs to msg me, just busy in css at the moment.
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[16:37:56]<tassoman>so i have to set full HTML by default
[16:38:10]<tassoman>then filtered HTML to auth user and anon
[16:38:25]<tassoman>then allow only bot role to fullhtml
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[16:38:31]<sutha>drwits: I don't have the time to get you there, but this may help you: http://drupalbin.com/2239
[16:38:34]<tassoman>is it?
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[16:39:08]<sutha>drwits: the first five lines should be placed in newsletter_subscribe.info
[16:39:38]<sutha>drwits: line 11 and below in newsletter_subscribe.module
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[16:40:11]<sutha>drwits: place both in a folder /sites/all/modules/newsletter_subscribe
[16:41:50]<sutha>drwits: this will get you a working mini-module
[16:42:03]<tassoman>filter_default?
[16:42:03]<Druplicon>filter_default is http://drupal.org/project/filter_default
[16:42:20]<tassoman>seems outdated
[16:42:24]<PatMac>ceardach: Are you familiar with the YUI library? http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/
[16:42:46]<sutha>drwits: you can now start playing with the content of newsletter_subscribe_form()
[16:42:55]<ceardach>PatMac: I've browsed it, but not used it
[16:42:55]<drwits>thanks sutha... i'll start looking into it
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[16:43:23]<sutha>drwits: more info on coding form can be found in http://api.drupal.org/api/file/developer/topics/forms_api_reference.html/5
[16:43:24]<PatMac>"The foundational YUI Reset CSS file removes and neutralizes the inconsistent default styling of HTML elements, creating a level playing field across A-grade browsers and providing a sound foundation upon which you can explicitly declare your intentions."
[16:43:38]<sutha>drwits: have to run now. Good luck.
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[16:46:28]<Sodakiller>Good morning.
[16:46:32]<Sodakiller>=)
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[17:01:18]<level09>is there any GIS modules for drupal ?
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[17:07:02]<tassoman>how can be done a kind of directory navigation (like was yahoo and dmoz) using only a taxonomy tree with terms and descriptions?
[17:08:11]<tassoman>http://unsito.com/?tikPA
[17:11:15]<tassoman>maybe using panels and views?
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[17:11:32]<tassoman>so having a top panel with children taxonomy terms
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[17:11:48]<tassoman>and a lower panel with weblinks for that term (a view)
[17:11:59]<ceardach>argh. Does anyone else have issues using dreamhost and the command line?
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[17:12:14]<tassoman>dh is sh!t
[17:12:26]<ceardach>it's nice for the money
[17:12:31]<Sodakiller>cheap?
[17:12:35]<ceardach>$10/mo
[17:12:39]<Sodakiller>that's cheap!
[17:12:44]<ceardach>hell yeah
[17:13:01]<tassoman>you'll lose your customers. is good for homebrew geeks and no more
[17:13:11]<tassoman>or low powered websites
[17:13:28]<ceardach>unlimited domains, user logins, etc
[17:13:29]<tassoman>or high rate html static websites
[17:13:41]<tassoman>or huge downloads parking
[17:13:53]<Sodakiller>What else does the price come with? Problems?
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[17:14:09]<ceardach>it's a little slow, thats about it
[17:14:09]<tassoman>damn slow
[17:14:16]<level09>php
[17:14:28]<tassoman>also shell processes
[17:14:31]<ceardach>right now the command line keeps locking up. Ggrrrr
[17:14:44]<level09>taxonomy_get_tree?
[17:14:44]<Druplicon>taxonomy_get_tree: Create a hierarchical representation of a vocabulary. => taxonomy_get_tree($vid, $parent = 0, $depth = -1, $max_depth = NULL) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/taxonomy_get_tree/6
[17:15:00]<Sodakiller>vps solutions are nice =)
[17:15:03]<ceardach>so then I gotta get out of it, and ssh back in. It's never been this much of a problem before
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[17:15:25]<Sodakiller>cant u putty into it?
[17:15:31]<ceardach>I had a VPS for, like, three years. It got out of date, they changed the pricing scheme, and they wouldn't update it without charging me
[17:16:13]<Sodakiller>ah ok,
[17:16:37]<ceardach>in the end, I was getting LESS for $50/mo than what I'm getting now for $10/mo
[17:17:04]<ceardach>so, I canned it and switched to dreamhost
[17:17:32]<ceardach>quick and easy subversion, quick and easy trac, quick and easy domain management.
[17:17:42]<ceardach>now if only the shell access would stop locking up!
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[17:19:20]<Sodakiller>what did you get with your vps solution? (what kind of package)
[17:19:28]<Sodakiller>just want to compare it to mine
[17:19:42]<Sodakiller>or just show me the vps solution's site
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[17:20:06]<ceardach>Like I said, it was three years old when I finally did get rid of it. My hosting company didn't even offer it anymore
[17:20:24]<ceardach>it was just a linux box with cpanel installed, basically
[17:20:50]<Sodakiller>oh but how much space did u get
[17:21:35]<Sodakiller>don't know my vps solution compares to what others have used , so thats why i'm asking
[17:21:45]<ceardach>oh, I don't know... maybe 20gb. I have 230gb with dreamhost.
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[17:24:50]<Sodakiller>wwow what a difference
[17:25:31]<level09>any 1 tried cloud hosting yet ?
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[17:31:55]<utter_laptop>can you use $arg or some other wildcard in the name of a .tpl.php file?
[17:32:27]<utter_laptop>so like page-node-$arg-home.t,p.php
[17:32:34]<utter_laptop>tpl
[17:34:08]<ceardach>utter_laptop: I've never heard of it, so I'm going to say no.
[17:34:32]<utter_laptop>that's good enough for me :)
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[17:36:42]<utter_laptop>I'm having the horrors with Panel pages
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[17:37:14]<utter_laptop>a normal panel page can be given a css class so you can theme it's panels uniquely
[17:37:49]<utter_laptop>but pages built using OG Panels don't have, so there's no way I can see of uniquely theming them
[17:38:15]<utter_laptop>unless I could find a way to put there theme into a .tpl file
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[17:39:05]<ceardach>utter_laptop: check out the og_panels module and look for any functions beginging with "theme_". It's possible you can overwrite it
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[17:39:35]<utter_laptop>it would be if I could code like that - it's still a bit over my head
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[17:39:44]<sdboyer>it's not. sorry keith, i think you're just gonna have to wait till i get a second to fix the code we were working on earlier
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[17:40:03]<sdboyer>i should have time later today
[17:40:10]<utter_laptop>ah - thanks Sam
[17:40:14]<sdboyer>yep, sure
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[17:40:17]<sdboyer>packing up my life atm
[17:40:24]<utter_laptop>oh dear...
[17:40:49]<utter_laptop>what's up?
[17:40:55]<sdboyer>just moving
[17:41:01]<utter_laptop>where to?
[17:41:02]<sdboyer>been planned for a while :)
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[17:41:10]<utter_laptop>anywhere nice?
[17:41:27]<sdboyer>just a mile away or so, until i find a place for uni next year
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[17:41:45]<utter_laptop>which Uni? you at De Paul?
[17:41:52]<sdboyer>University of Chicago
[17:41:56]<utter_laptop>k
[17:42:52]<utter_laptop>well - I might as well crack on with the reorganisation of all the Blueprints and await your call
[17:43:09]<utter_laptop>i go most of the Adv profile issues ironed out
[17:43:29]<utter_laptop>I may even make the launch deadline :)
[17:43:29]<sdboyer>good good
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[17:44:29]<utter_laptop>can you mail me later if you get time to fix something up?
[17:44:45]<utter_laptop>or shout me in the channel?
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[17:46:27]<Symmetry>i just installed drupal and no error messages. at first index.php admin screen, when I try to follow any link on the page, i get a page that jus shows all the contents of my root directory.. just a list of all the drupal files
[17:46:34]<Symmetry>what di di do wrong
[17:47:13]<ceardach>you know, someone else had this same problem
[17:47:16]<Symmetry>oh crap
[17:47:19]<Symmetry>i think i see it
[17:47:25]<ceardach>do you have .htaccess?
[17:47:27]<Symmetry>your first user HAS to be 'admin' doesnt it?
[17:47:33]<Symmetry>i used 'root'
[17:47:38]<ceardach>as the username? no
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[17:47:58]<ceardach>the username can be anything. The first user automatically becomes "user 1" and has all permissions
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[17:49:11]<Symmetry>it must be an apache setting
[17:49:16]<Symmetry>hm maybe not
[17:49:17]<ceardach>yes, thats what I think
[17:49:22]<Symmetry>i followed the tutorials to a T
[17:49:49]<ceardach>it's probably an error on your server
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[17:52:03]<Symmetry>what would you do to htaccess?
[17:52:12]<ceardach>does it exist?
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[17:54:07]<Symmetry>which dir is it in?
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[17:54:21]<ceardach>should be in your drupal root
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[17:54:45]<Symmetry>yes i have it in my drupal/ folder
[17:55:26]<ceardach>did you set up this server, or is it provided by a host?
[17:55:57]<Symmetry>i set it up, its all local on this current machine
[17:56:19]<ceardach>ok, if you didn't do so, you need to manually tell apache to use .htaccess files
[17:56:29]<Symmetry>ooh
[17:56:32]<Symmetry>where do i do that
[17:56:57]<ceardach>it's in httpd.conf I believe. I think you can also set it at a per-site level with httpd-vhosts.conf
[17:57:17]<ceardach>thats assuming you're using v2. For v1, it's just all in httpd.conf
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[18:00:26]<nicdc>Anyone know a good Personal messaging module?
[18:02:18]<davidstrauss>nicdc: how about the private message module?
[18:02:54]<Symmetry>htaccess seems to be just to access non drupal folders from drupal
[18:02:58]<nicdc>I tired it but it looks horrible with my theme...
[18:03:44]<ceardach>Symmetry: it also helps redirect Drupal's paths back to index.php so it'll serve content
[18:04:33]<nicdc>Is thier any other modules? I also tried PM lite, but i dont like the way it handles the PMs.
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[18:07:46]<anonymouss>does anyone have the newsletter module working?
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[18:08:02]<anonymouss>i can't get it to actually send newsletters
[18:08:13]<anonymouss>by newsletter module i mean simplenews
[18:08:30]<anonymouss>do you know of any other newletter modules i can use instead?
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[18:10:48]<ceardach>anonymouss: do you know if you have a general sending-email problem?
[18:11:07]<anonymouss>no i think there isn't
[18:11:12]<ceardach>anonymouss: try going through the forgot-password process and see if it sends you an email
[18:11:17]<anonymouss>since iirc i got the confirm mail
[18:11:20]<anonymouss>ok i'll do that
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[18:16:58]<anonymouss>hmm, actually its not sending that email
[18:17:02]<anonymouss>weird
[18:17:08]<t999>How can I restrict certain node types from being searched by anonymous users?
[18:18:40]<anonymouss>ceardach: I just ran cron, still no email
[18:19:37]<ceardach>yeah, then you probably have a general email sending problem
[18:19:54]<ceardach>t999: There is a search_block module
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[18:20:31]<t999>search_block?
[18:20:32]<Druplicon>search_block: Implementation of hook_block(). => search_block($op = 'list', $delta = 0) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/search_block/6
[18:21:06]<ceardach>t999: http://drupal.org/project/search_block
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[18:21:40]<ceardach>anonymouss: I have had random problems with getting email to work. I think I had some success installing an email module...
[18:21:56]<anonymouss>i found a drupal module called mail
[18:22:14]<anonymouss>mail?
[18:22:14]<Druplicon>mail: http://php.net/mail
[18:22:23]<anonymouss>simplenews?
[18:22:23]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/project/simplenews
[18:22:24]<ceardach>anonymouss: yeah, that could be it. I think I had success with it.
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[18:22:44]<anonymouss>i'll try that, my other website's email system seems to be working
[18:22:57]<anonymouss>and so was this one's until i put simplenews on
[18:23:21]<McGo>Is there a module that sends out an email to the author of a node when someone adds a new comment?
[18:25:50]<anonymouss>is it better to put modules in /modules or /sites/all/modules
[18:28:02]<ceardach>anonymouss: are your two sites on the same server or different servers?
[18:28:09]<anonymouss>different
[18:28:25]<ceardach>anonymouss: it's always better to put your modules in /sites/all/modules
[18:28:50]<ceardach>Try to keep all customizations to within the sites folder, and don't touch anything else
[18:28:53]<anonymouss>but I have a friend who has his drupal site on a server similar to the one that I have working, except after he installed simplenews the same thing happened
[18:29:10]<ceardach>anonymouss: interesting. I wonder if there is a bug in simplenews?
[18:29:14]<ceardach>thats really odd
[18:29:20]<ceardach>I have to say, I think I encountered the same thing
[18:29:33]<anonymouss>there is a newer release of simplenews, released like yesterday
[18:29:43]<anonymouss>i'll try dowloading taht
[18:29:44]<anonymouss>that
[18:29:52]<ceardach>anonymouss: usually a good idea :)
[18:30:12]<ceardach>also, you may benefit from reading through my example development environment: http://ceardach.com/blog/2008/06/development-environment-drupal
[18:30:22]<anonymouss>ok thanks
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[18:31:03]<[algo]>solved issue
[18:31:05]<[algo]>with bot
[18:31:20]<[algo]>SmartIRC has hardcoded crazy stuff inside
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[18:39:22]<anonymouss>ok the mail module is for drupal 4.7
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[18:39:33]<anonymouss>how can I just send an email to everyone
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[18:40:20]<level09>masscontact?
[18:40:25]<level09>mass_contact?
[18:41:24]<anonymouss>http://drupal.org/project/mass_contact
[18:41:36]<anonymouss>its old
[18:41:40]<anonymouss>not for 6.2
[18:41:47]<anonymouss>can't make it compatible?
[18:43:55]<Idanmel>Hi, I installed drupal 6.1 for hebrew, and I'm making a new content type with cck. I added a field called "field_english_title" so I can generate automatic url's with pathauto. How can I make that field not show in the actual published content?
[18:45:07]<Moonshine>Idanmel: Go into that content type in the admin and look for the Display Options tab.. I think that's the name of it. That's where you can set basic display options for cck fields.
[18:45:54]<Moonshine>Idanmel: I guess it's called "Display Fields"
[18:46:15]<Idanmel>I see, thanks a lot!!!
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[18:47:18]<anonymouss>how would I use this? http://drupal.org/node/48738
[18:47:18]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/48738 => Send an email to everyone in a role group => 3 IRC mentions
[18:48:02]<anonymouss>do i put it in node.tlp.php
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[18:49:16]<anonymouss>ok, my theme doesn't have that
[18:50:36]<ceardach>anonymouss: copy it from /themes/engines/phptemplate
[18:52:26]<anonymouss>i have a file called phptemplate.engine
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[18:55:22]<ceardach>what version of drupal?
[18:57:05]<anonymouss>6.2
[18:57:18]<ceardach>hm.. yeah it appears they don't provide the default template files
[18:57:25]<ceardach>maybe you can find some in cck?
[18:57:25]<[algo]>btw
[18:57:26]<anonymouss>it might be /templates
[18:57:29]<[algo]>anyone knows about CCK/Views
[18:57:31]<[algo]>for drupal 6?
[18:57:33]<[algo]>plans ?
[18:57:36]<[algo]>prognoses ?
[18:57:45]<[algo]>forecasts ?
[18:58:01]<ceardach>they're trying
[18:58:11]<ceardach>they're pretty much workable now
[18:58:33]<cgardner>anyone know how to make breadcrumbs in D6 follow the path that the user follows?
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[19:00:25]<Idanmel>try a module called clickpath
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[19:01:08]<cgardner>Idanmel: beautiful. Thank you!
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[19:02:39]<ceardach>I used to read all available modules once a month or so. I'm saddened that it's now virtually too many to read through. However, simultaneously, that also means massive significant capabilities are possible.
[19:04:29]<CCman1>does anyone here know how to change the width of the tinyMCE textarea box?
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[19:06:31]<NikLP>Idanmel: nice one, I can use that too! ;)
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[19:06:43]<Idanmel>yeah, I liked it as well :)
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[19:08:42]<Sodakiller>clickpath eh?
[19:09:54]<cgardner>Idanmel: That's really close, except when a user gets to an article and goes home....
[19:09:54]<Idanmel>yeah, I was really happy when I found it :)
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[19:26:06]<NikLP>cgardner: wha...?
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[19:27:52]<cgardner>NikLP: It'll show "term1 > term 2 > home > term 3" if you follow that path... that's not what I want... I think I just needed to add some weight to a taxonomy term.
[19:28:11]<NikLP>that's what it says on the tin... :p
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[19:29:12]<cgardner>yeah... just turns out that isn't what I needed.
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[19:30:20]<cgardner>turns out the content type had two different taxonomy vocabs and it wasn't using the one I wanted for the breadcrumb.
[19:30:47]<NikLP>change the weight
[19:30:52]<cgardner>yep
[19:30:53]<NikLP>oh you did :)
[19:30:57]<cgardner>:-D
[19:31:17]<cgardner>Didn't know what I wanted to do at first. :-D
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[19:34:58]<VanDerKeen>I do a site about work. For vacancy I add fields with module CCK. How I can make vacancy search at this field from CCK?
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[19:36:14]<NikLP>could use views filters, that has a search facility
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[19:40:23]<VanDerKeen><NikLP>: The base module View will suffice me, or to use any addition to the View?
[19:40:34]<NikLP>just views :)
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[19:41:20]<NikLP>views?
[19:41:20]<Druplicon>views is a query builder for Drupal that lets you control your content display. Project: http://drupal.org/project/views | API: http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/views/api | Theming: http://drupal.org/node/42597 | Snippets: http://drupal.org/node/47412 | 6.x version is in beta and available for testing; use on a live site only with caution.
[19:41:43]<NikLP>ciao
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[19:43:34]<McGo>Is there a quite simple module that let registered users say if the attend an event, do not attend it or are just looking at it?
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[19:54:31]<spsneo>how can i upgrade my drupal from version 4.6 to 6.x
[19:54:34]<spsneo>?
[19:55:17]<spsneo>nobody active there
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[19:56:00]<chx>anyone from the UK here?
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[19:56:24]<threexk>spsneo: I am here, but don't know answer to your question
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[19:56:41]<spsneo>any vague ides..
[19:57:06]<threexk>the oldest Drupal I've ever used is 5
[19:57:24]<threexk>I don't know if there is an upgrade mechanism. I think you may have to rebuild it, and copy files in. But I could be wrong
[19:57:35]<McGo>spsneo: Check if it is better to rebuild it in D6. There are sooo many changes...
[19:57:35]<spsneo>well can i upgrade drupal 4 to 5 using update script
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[19:57:49]<threexk>spsneo: oh. I'm probably wrong then
[19:58:12]<spsneo>and how will I use my old data
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[19:58:25]<McGo>what modules outside core do you use?
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[20:01:24]<spsneo>lets say i dont use any module other than core
[20:01:26]<spsneo>?
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[20:06:03]<ceardach>spsneo: yes, the update script should handle all core related data
[20:06:53]<VanDerKeen><NikLP> I did search of vakancy. But there user can choose value of filter and operator (Is All Of, Is One of ...). I want did without operator (Is All Of, Is One of ...). How can I did it?
[20:07:16]<spsneo>ceardach: do u mean i can update drupal from any version to any version right?
[20:07:40]<ceardach>spsneo: no, you have to do it in order. 4.6 > 4.7 > 5
[20:09:21]<spsneo>okk
[20:09:30]<WT>ceardach: are you sure? I can't remember bu I have a vague memory of skipping
[20:09:59]<ceardach>WT: I've never done it, but all upgrade instructions have specified to do it
[20:10:21]<spsneo>http://drupal.org/upgrade/tutorial-introduction
[20:10:32]<ceardach>now, keep in mind, there is a difference between 4.6>4.7 and 5.6>5.7
[20:10:37]<spsneo>ceardach: well ya this page suggests that i have to do upgrade sequnetially
[20:11:10]<ceardach>4.6 and 4.7 were _major_ releases, while the numbering system changed for version 5. Now the second digit is the _patch_ release
[20:11:43]<tjazzvibe>wow ceardach is still here giving support. i left him at 10 this morning!
[20:11:57]<ceardach><blushes>
[20:12:18]<ceardach>I sorta got side tracked. And I guess it is a day away now
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[20:12:28]<spsneo>ceardach: rox ! \m/
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[20:12:38]<ceardach>haha
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[20:13:15]<WT>ceardach: ok... that's right... I probably skipped the numbers like 4.6.5
[20:13:15]<ceardach>well, I did do a little work. Now I'm resting. It is a Saturday.
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[20:15:17]<ceardach>I tried installing FFmpeg on one of my client's servers, however, it appears to not be compatible with solaris.
[20:15:53]<ceardach>there's a solaris rpm for it, but due to friggin' draconian IT restrictions, I do not have access to root
[20:17:48]<ceardach>I'm now debating setting up a dedicated server just for the video converstions and making a custom module to refer to the dedicated server. Ugh. This is not pretty.
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[20:26:10]<VanDerKeen>Sorry, I am the beginner. I add field in filter in view. But how can I delete this field from filter?
[20:26:48]<ceardach>there is a little cylinder looking icon... it's actually supposed to be a trash can. Click that.
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[20:28:08]<ceardach>gah, I strongly dislike solaris.
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[20:37:09]<cgardner>Anyone had Validation errors when searching
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[21:09:06]<robotjox>hello - does anybody know of a drupal chat-module that would allow you to see who's online and then notify this user that you would like to chat? (sorta like facebook)
[21:10:12]<ceardach>robotjox: haven't heard of anything like that
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[21:12:10]<robotjox>ceardach: nahh..guess I'm out of luck :)
[21:13:07]<cgardner>seen jacobroufa
[21:13:07]<Druplicon>jacobroufa was last seen in #drupal-support 4 days 23 hours ago saying 'both'.
[21:13:17]<robotjox>well, there are plenty of chat modules, but the notification is the real challenge
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[21:43:27]<robcalewar>im trying to install a fresh version of drupal 6.2 and I finished ftping all the files however when I first o to my website I am redirected in to mydomain.com/bin/install.php
[21:43:39]<robcalewar>and that page is not found
[21:43:56]<ceardach>does it exist in your filesystem?
[21:44:09]<robcalewar>I checked in the ftp and there is no folder named /bin in both the zip that I install nor the server I am uploading to
[21:44:10]<robcalewar>no
[21:44:20]<ceardach>hmm
[21:45:38]<ceardach>is there an install.php file in your drupal root?
[21:45:58]<robcalewar>yes
[21:46:49]<robcalewar>wait, it's not case-sensitive is it?
[21:47:22]<ceardach>linux is case sensitive, so any site running on linux is case sensitive
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[21:49:37]<robcalewar>fixed and still not working, I am unsure of what my host is running
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[21:49:59]<ceardach>it is most likely linux
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[21:50:21]<ceardach>so, you just go plain old to mydomain.com and it is redirecting?
[21:50:47]<robcalewar>yes
[21:50:53]<robcalewar>hmm, i tried this just now in my address bar. mydoamin.com/index.php
[21:51:01]<robcalewar>and then it forwards to
[21:51:09]<robcalewar>http://mydoamin.com/bin/install.php?profile=default
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[21:52:13]<PaulATL>robcalewar: it sounds like something in your web server configuration. You are using apache?
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[21:52:56]<Arancaytar>Is there some module that can do syntax highlighting for other languages than PHP?
[21:52:57]<robcalewar>my host gave almost no technical details, however im sure it has all the necessary software isntalled
[21:53:03]<robcalewar>I installed joomla with no problem
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[21:53:24]<PaulATL>robcalewar: so this is happening on your host, then, not your local machine?
[21:53:37]<robcalewar>correct
[21:54:03]<PaulATL>It almost sounds like there's a misplaced rule, either in the apache configuration or in your .htaccess file
[21:54:25]<ceardach>Arancaytar: http://drupal.org/project/geshifilter might do it
[21:55:20]<robcalewar>ill look in to that, thanks
[21:55:50]<WT>ceardach: Drupal is not case sensitive if running path module, even on linux (which is a problem)
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[21:56:45]<ceardach>WT: I just tested it, and I got 404 when changing the case of one letter
[21:56:57]<Arancaytar>ceardach: Ah, thanks. I'd written a similar module for myself a year ago and was wondering whether it would be worth cleaning up and submitting. It uses a PEAR package instead of Geshi, but it has less features.
[21:57:04]<WT>drupal.org/handbook drupal.org/handbooK
[21:57:12]<WT>ceardach: try those
[21:58:05]<ceardach>oh, I get it, works for path aliases but not system paths
[21:58:25]<WT>ceardach: I'll add a bug report
[21:58:31]<WT>been meaning to
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[22:12:43]<wooboodoo>anybody can say me, where I can find cck fields?
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[22:14:12]<ceardach>wooboodoo: where are they located in your drupal install?
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[22:16:59]<wooboodoo>yes, for example, when I instal views module I've got entry to them in admin->manage->site building->views
[22:17:11]<Arancaytar>Well, I got my highlighter to work in D6, at least: http://polaris.ermarian.net/d6/node/1 . Of course, now that I've found the existing module it's not that useful anymore. ;)
[22:17:14]<wooboodoo>but I can't find entry for cck
[22:17:50]<ceardach>wooboodoo: CCK is integrated into content types. When you add or modify a content type, you can then also add and modify fields
[22:18:19]<wooboodoo>Ok, I probably uderstand
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[22:19:09]<wooboodoo>so, how can I use cck fields with view module? I think, that I don't udnerstand all idea's of this.
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[22:20:15]<ceardach>wooboodoo: in views, you can filter results based upon CCK field values
[22:21:07]<wooboodoo>I have to do any simple example of this
[22:21:20]<wooboodoo>I fount field types, when edit content type
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[22:21:40]<level09_>wooboodoo: why dont u start with handbooks :D
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[22:22:22]<wooboodoo>level09_: I read and done advanced help for views
[22:22:59]<level09_>hmmm
[22:23:08]<wooboodoo>but I can't find usles practical exemples for this trio (conten type, cck and views) dedcated for drupal 6
[22:23:38]<level09_>wooboodoo: there are more than 33 sites with examples on cck and views :D
[22:24:07]<wooboodoo>maybe I lame :) Give me one best useless example
[22:24:09]<level09_>D6 or D5, the idea remains the same
[22:24:59]<wooboodoo>if I want do address book (companies catalog)...
[22:25:16]<level09_>create a cck type for a company
[22:25:34]<level09_>add fields like: name, tel, fax, location, sector , etc ...
[22:25:41]<wooboodoo>I have to create new content type, with every special data (phone, addres...)
[22:25:45]<wooboodoo>yes
[22:25:48]<level09_>no
[22:25:57]<level09_>one content type, with multiple fields
[22:26:14]<wooboodoo>then next I get views to do engine for this, yes?
[22:26:54]<manuee>anyone know mysql, whats wrong with this query? http://pastebin.com/m11fb704e
[22:27:28]<level09_>views lets u do lists of your companies
[22:27:34]<level09_>based on your cck fields
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[22:27:41]<wooboodoo>based on views I will do lists of companies, 'companies card' etc?
[22:27:44]<level09_>basically its a query builder
[22:27:52]<wooboodoo>thanks
[22:27:54]<ceardach>wooboodoo: check out this: http://ceardach.com/blog/2008/01/drupal-fundamentals It's a very basic break down of nodes/views/users
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[22:28:11]<wooboodoo>I think, now I understand all relationship
[22:28:19]<level09_>what I want to know, is how drupal's urls are handled
[22:28:46]<grndlvl>hello all
[22:28:53]<level09_>does drupal rely on module weights in order to serve urls ?
[22:29:46]<WT>I think the URL case sensitivity issue is a MySQL problem: http://drupal.org/node/276201
[22:29:51]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/276201 => Using URL aliases makes URLs case insensitive => Path, Code, normal, active, 1 IRC mention
[22:30:10]<ceardach>manuee: try this: http://pastebin.com/m42368bc8
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[22:30:53]<manuee>ah excelent ceardach thanks!
[22:31:07]<manuee>so inner join must go before any where
[22:31:08]<manuee>?
[22:31:53]<ceardach>manuee: yeah, FROM and JOINS should be next to each other, then followed by WHERE clauses and ORDER
[22:32:13]<manuee>great, ill remember that
[22:32:21]<manuee>im a mysql tourist stil
[22:32:22]<manuee>hehe
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[22:33:07]<ceardach>WT: thats what I was thinking. I wonder if there can just be an extra check to ensure that what was returned by MySQL is the same case
[22:33:30]<level09_>is it a best practice to write sql queries upper case ?
[22:34:41]<ceardach>manuee: This is how I think about it. First, select what you want returned, then what tables should be queried, followed by what limitations/filters, and finally what order the results should be returned in.
[22:34:43]<manuee>it helps reading it thats for sure
[22:34:51]<WT>I added 3 links to pages about case sensitivity in mysql (on the issue page) I'm not sure the best way to do it though.
[22:35:54]<ceardach>level09_: I assume it's a best practice.
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[22:38:26]<manuee>hummm ok im confused
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[22:38:56]<ceardach>manuee: hm?
[22:39:06]<manuee>query works in mysql right, but in my php it doesnt filter by nodetype and displays all node types http://drupalbin.com/2240
[22:39:29]* manuee scratches his head
[22:41:52]<manuee>any clue why that would happen ceardach ?
[22:42:00]<wooboodoo>level09_: thank you, I think, I know one bit more about drupal...
[22:42:23]<ceardach>manuee: I'm not so good about using %d and stuff... but should you not be using %d for both?
[22:42:28]<level09_>no worries :)
[22:42:45]<manuee>no clue how that goes ceardach :S
[22:42:48]<level09_>wooboodoo: i got started a few months ago too :D
[22:43:29]<_DT>manuee: node type is a string and should use the '%s' placeholder ;-)
[22:43:31]<ceardach>manuee: well, you can pass the variables in directly. It's not recommended, but it should be fine if you're the only one doing it
[22:43:36]<manuee>aaaaaaah ok
[22:43:42]<manuee>see i dont know these placeholders
[22:43:51]<manuee>ill have to do some reaidng on that (devel newbie)
[22:44:09]<ceardach>manuee: also it appears as though you can do this query with views
[22:44:11]<_DT>there's basically 3, %d (integer) %f (float / decimal) and '%s' (string)
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[22:44:24]<manuee>yup i know ceardach hehe i have that already setup
[22:44:28]<manuee>im just testing out things
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[22:44:34]<ceardach>manuee: oki dokie
[22:44:39]<manuee>trying to see how to build a module n stuf
[22:44:54]<manuee>thanks guys
[22:44:58]<ceardach>manuee: good idea :)
[22:44:59]<manuee><3 drupal
[22:45:16]<manuee>thnx _DT for the explanation too
[22:45:24]<_DT>np :-)
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[22:46:30]<_DT>you should use the placeholders in queries whereever possible to avoid SQL injection attacks
[22:47:18]<manuee>argh
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[22:47:37]<manuee>now drupal gets me this: user warning: Unknown column 'song' in 'where clause' query: SELECT node.title , node.nid FROM node INNER JOIN term_node ON node.nid = term_node.nid WHERE node.type = song AND term_node.tid = 29 in /opt/lampp/htdocs/targetmultimedia/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 172.
[22:47:55]<manuee>it thinks that string is a column? 0_o
[22:48:16]<ceardach>manuee: put it in single quotes?
[22:48:23]<manuee>ah you can do that ok
[22:48:24]<ceardach>manuee: '%s'
[22:48:30]<manuee>right ill try that duh
[22:48:35]<manuee>thnx
[22:48:45]<_DT>db_query?
[22:48:45]<Druplicon>db_query: Runs a basic query in the active database. => db_query($query) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/db_query/6
[22:49:06]<manuee>weeeeeeeeee it wrks!
[22:49:11]<_DT>more info on placeholders there. apparently there's also a %b for binary data
[22:49:14]<manuee>thanks a ton guys!
[22:49:22]* manuee reads
[22:49:45]<manuee>not that this module will actualy do anything but anyway
[22:50:01]<ceardach>manuee: hey, it's good to know. I haven't even made a module.
[22:50:22]<manuee>i did one last week, but only to use a jquery plugin hehe
[22:50:25]<ceardach>manuee: I'm not a "lets just try and see how this works" kinda person. I'm a "I have an idea! I'm gonna do it now!" kinda person. hehe.
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[22:51:03]<manuee>yeh im trying to get to a position where i can do that with modules hehe
[22:51:06]<manuee>;)
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[22:51:53]<ceardach>manuee: I have a website idea that I think I can only create by making my own module. So.. .my first module is going to end up being a doozy. haha.
[22:52:06]<manuee>heheheh-=]
[22:52:30]<manuee>ive done some stuf, but only in the theme layer
[22:52:34]<ceardach>manuee: I don't know if I should groan or be excited by thinking abou tit
[22:52:42]<manuee>lol dunno either!
[22:52:44]<ceardach>manuee: yeah, I think I have absolutely and utterly abused the theme layer
[22:52:45]<manuee>hahha
[22:52:50]<manuee>yeh me too
[22:52:59]<manuee>endup with huge template.php files
[22:53:03]<manuee>scary
[22:53:04]<manuee>heh
[22:53:08]<ceardach>hehe
[22:55:01]<manuee>ah great feeling, i just got my first drupal query function working
[22:55:04]<manuee>this diserves a beer
[22:55:11]<ceardach>yay!
[22:55:18]<manuee>-=]
[22:56:06]<manuee>i wonder if using this would actualy be faster than using a view
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[22:56:45]<ceardach>manuee: Views have extra access control put in
[22:56:48]<_DT>_phptemplate_callback?
[22:56:48]<Druplicon>_phptemplate_callback: Execute a template engine call. => _phptemplate_callback($hook, $variables = array(), $suggestions = array()) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/_phptemplate_callback/5
[22:56:55]<manuee>views & panels2 does havea high performance hit
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[22:57:30]<Ricco>I have a site that uses OG, and have tried the OG Forum module without great success. It seems to give no control over fine tuning which groups you want to have forums, and which you don't. And in addition, it does not address the issie of group forums and stand alone forums. And it got me thinking.
[22:57:38]<Ricco>I would like to create my forums with the forum module, and use the forum access module to control access to the forums via roles. Then I would like a new function that I have not seen that will allow me ASSOCIATE my forums with a group. It would allow me to choose and group, and then list via checkboxes all the forums. I would check the forums I want ASSOCIATED with the group.
[22:57:47]<Ricco>Then in the group detail block. I would like to either change the "group forums" item or add a "Associated forums" items that when checked would display the forum page but filter it so only the ASSOCIATED forums are displayed.
[22:58:29]<Ricco>Does this require me to make a new table that has (group IDs & forum IDs) in it, or is there something that exists that I am overlooking?
[22:59:13]<ceardach>Ricco: forums are managed by taxonomy. is there any way to link a term to a group?
[22:59:39]<Ricco>ceardach, i am not sure. I am somewhat of a novice
[22:59:56]<Ricco>not even sure exactly the tables and keys that are involved in a forum
[23:00:21]<Ricco>if I could understand what tables and keys are involved, I would perhaps make my first module
[23:00:58]<Ricco>it seems somewhat straigt forward enough
[23:01:15]<ceardach>Ricco: use the dbscripts module to dump the database before and after a change. then you can view a diff of the database to see what changed and see how your modifications interact with the database
[23:01:21]<Ricco>it would be a able of GID & FORUMID (using the terms lostly)
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[23:02:14]<Ricco>and would simply make a forum view that would scan through that table filtering on the GID that I happen to be in when I click the link
[23:03:14]<Ricco>my thought was to simply ask here first before I went off and tried to make my own world
[23:03:46]<ceardach>Sorry, I'm not really familiar with OG
[23:04:00]<Ricco>ceardach, np, it seems more of a forum thing
[23:04:15]<Ricco>ceardach, do you know the tables involved in forums?
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[23:04:45]<ceardach>Ricco: Well, since I think it's a term thing, then term_ tables
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[23:05:13]<Ricco>ceardach, i am off to my phpadmin in cpanel to do some research
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[23:10:45]<Idanmel>Is there a way to add costume fields to a taxonomy term?
[23:11:10]<ceardach>'costume' fields?
[23:12:31]<_DT>Idanmel: I guess you mean 'custom' fields. That would be a nice feature but I don't know of any modules to do so yet.
[23:12:39]<_DT>kinda like cck for taxonomy terms ;-)
[23:13:10]<ceardach>the category module turns terms into nodes
[23:13:26]<ceardach>on another website I manage, the previous developer just made all terms as nodes and used node_reference. heh.
[23:14:29]<_DT>but the category module is not compatible with the taxonomy module?
[23:14:49]<ceardach>it's integrated I believe
[23:15:01]<_DT>category?
[23:15:01]<Druplicon>category is system to build complex hierarchical and taxonomy relations and structures with nodes. Info here : http://drupal.org/project/category and http://category.greenash.net.au/
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[23:15:34]<_DT>I was put off by the bold print at the top ;-)
[23:16:04]<ceardach>yeah, but some people swear by it. heh.
[23:16:07]<jessd>Anyone have any recommendations for serving video in Drupal 6?
[23:16:08]<ceardach>at least... back in the day...
[23:16:09]<wooboodoo>is there module for drupal 6 (cck) which implement field with cities selection?
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[23:16:22]<wooboodoo>With city base
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[23:17:56]<_DT>ceardach: if I wanted to add custom field data to taxonomy terms, I'd probably just make a module to implement
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[23:17:59]<_DT>hook_taxonomy?
[23:17:59]<Druplicon>hook_taxonomy: Act on taxonomy changes. => hook_taxonomy($op, $type, $array = NULL) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/hook_taxonomy/6
[23:18:09]<Idanmel>Well, I have a vocabulary to classify articles (a custom made content type). With autopath and views I was able to make hackable url's. My problem is that I need "views" show the terms in Hebrew while still making english urls.
[23:18:10]<_DT>and save the extra data in another table
[23:18:43]<Idanmel>If I had an option to make a "field_hebrew_term" for each term, I could do it easily
[23:19:24]<_DT>Idanmel perhaps a multi-language module could help with that?
[23:19:30]<_DT>i18n?
[23:19:30]<Druplicon>Drupal 6 contains some internationalization features, like content translation but menu items, taxonomy terms and variables will need contrib modules like http://drupal.org/project/i18n
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[23:19:37]<_DT>for example
[23:19:50]<Idanmel>I'll try, thanks
[23:19:56]<ceardach>also, there are term synonyms I think
[23:21:17]<_DT>wooboodoo: no, but a free tagging 'city' vocab may suffice
[23:21:37]<Idanmel>btw, I'm not sure what will i18n be good for, because I have a Hebrew Drupal installation
[23:23:42]<_DT>cck_address?
[23:24:03]<_DT>wooboodoo: you may be interested in : http://drupal.org/project/cck_address
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[23:25:05]<Avneesh>hell
[23:25:08]<Avneesh>hello
[23:25:08]<Druplicon>niihau
[23:25:25]<Avneesh>i have a quesiton about drupal admin can someone help me out?
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[23:26:03]<_DT>Druplicon: cck_address is http://drupal.org/project/cck_address
[23:26:03]<Druplicon>_DT: Okay.
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[23:26:24]<_DT>meta?
[23:26:24]<Druplicon>Simply ask your question. No need to ask to ask :). Unless you are doing a census, asking whether anyone uses a module isn't going to result in a useful answer.
[23:26:33]<_DT>;-)
[23:26:33]<ak1991>haha alright
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[23:26:52]<ak1991>so i want to hide the user login block...however when i hide it...then i don't know how to log in to do my administrative work
[23:27:03]<ak1991>basically the only user as such i want is the admin
[23:27:23]<_DT>ak1991: you can use the /user path to login
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[23:27:47]<_DT>in the url
[23:27:48]<ak1991>so domain.com/user
[23:27:52]<_DT>yep
[23:27:55]<ak1991>thank you!
[23:28:00]<_DT>np :-)
[23:28:27]<ak1991>well actually i did that but i just got an error
[23:28:36]<ak1991>You have requested a page or object that was not found on the server. This may be the result of a typo or broken link.
[23:28:56]<bsdfox__>hi, I'm trying up a 6.2 upgrade right now, found a theme "pixture" on the website which looked nice and blue.. I install it and it's bright pink :P I looked at configuration, but I don't see anywhere to set colors? do I need to do this manually on each picture of the theme or is there an easy way?
[23:28:57]<_DT>what drupal version?
[23:29:09]<ak1991>6.2
[23:29:27]<_DT>any 6.2ers know the equivalent /user path?
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[23:31:03]<_DT>ak1991: perhaps the path has changed in 6.2 but that's the general way to do it
[23:31:21]<_DT>perhaps try /login
[23:31:22]<ak1991>ok...do you know of a place on the drupal website where i could possibly look this up
[23:31:42]<ak1991>login doesn't work either
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[23:33:10]<_DT>try /user/login
[23:33:15]<_DT>info here: http://api.drupal.org/api/function/user_menu/6
[23:34:19]<_DT>though it looks like /user should work...
[23:34:40]<ak1991>hmm its still not working
[23:34:56]<ak1991>http://resedacollegeinfo.nfshost.com
[23:35:01]<ak1991>that would be my domain
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[23:35:54]<_DT>ak1991: oh, I see you're not using clean urls
[23:36:05]<_DT>you'll need to do /?q=user
[23:36:13]<ak1991>ahh...ok
[23:36:29]<ak1991>fixed it!
[23:36:32]<ak1991>thank you!
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[23:37:20]<_DT>you might be interested in this snippet for page.tpl.php: http://drupalbin.com/2146
[23:37:34]<swirlaze>Hello! There is this, "Home ? Administer ? Site building", how can I get rid of this with page.tpl.php?
[23:38:04]<ak1991>thanks again!
[23:38:09]<ak1991>goodbye
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[23:39:19]<_DT>theme_breadcrumb?
[23:39:19]<Druplicon>theme_breadcrumb: Return a themed breadcrumb trail. => theme_breadcrumb($breadcrumb) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/theme_breadcrumb/6
[23:40:01]<swirlaze>Oh ok thank you.
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[23:41:38]<_DT>swirlaze: or you could have a separate admin theme and change the print $breadcrumb part
[23:41:48]<_DT>not sure what ur trying to do there...
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