IRC log for #drupal-dojo, 2007-12-10 (GMT)

 
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[00:05:43]<add1sun>ping Senpai dmitrig01|idle
[00:07:40]<Senpai>add1sun: ponk.
[00:08:05]<add1sun>heya, i got a contact email from dd.org
[00:08:13]<add1sun>with some q's about dd.com
[00:08:19]<Senpai>oh?
[00:08:26]<add1sun>and wanted to make sure i wasn't repeating by answering
[00:08:34]<add1sun>from someone named matt?
[00:08:34]<Senpai>I never got anything
[00:08:40]<add1sun>ok cool
[00:08:45]<Senpai>go for it
[00:08:48]<add1sun>i think on dd.org it is just me right now
[00:09:00]<add1sun>no one uses that site really so t is odd
[00:09:07]<add1sun>to get a contact form email from there
[00:09:24]<add1sun>but basically he is just saying the feedback stuff is borked :p
[00:09:40]<add1sun>we need to just go ahead and fix that crapz0r
[00:12:59]<Senpai>add1sun; We're using it for dojo2.0 planning
[00:13:13]<Senpai>I'm going to go ahead and jump on that right now
[00:13:18]<add1sun>Senpai, ahh, i wasn't sure if that really had activity or not
[00:13:24]<Senpai>I'm so tired of the dojo site being borked
[00:13:37]<add1sun>Senpai, yeah it just needs to be fixed
[00:13:39]<Senpai>I'm signing into unfuddle this instant
[00:13:44]<add1sun>oh cool!
[00:13:46]<add1sun>you go man
[00:13:46]<Senpai>I must figure this out
[00:14:00]* Senpai jumps off the diving board while holding both ankles
[00:14:20]<add1sun>woohoo! big splash!
[00:14:29]<Senpai>"...Once you have the Subversion client installed on your development machine, accessing your project repository is simple."
[00:14:34]<Senpai>Excuse me>
[00:14:42]<add1sun>?
[00:14:43]<Senpai>"subversion slient"
[00:14:48]<Senpai>*client?
[00:14:50]<add1sun>you have svn already yah?
[00:15:01]<Senpai>Do they want me to use 'their' subversion slient?
[00:15:06]<add1sun>that just means "the thing on your local machine that lets you use svn"
[00:15:07]<Senpai>danm
[00:15:09]<Senpai>I can't spell
[00:15:12]<add1sun>hehe
[00:15:17]<Senpai>Oh, whew
[00:15:18]<add1sun>client vs. repository
[00:15:21]<add1sun>that is all
[00:15:22]<Senpai>ok, I already have that
[00:15:26]<Senpai>ok, cool
[00:15:45]<Senpai>add1sun: Do we have SSL on this?
[00:15:51]<add1sun>nah
[00:15:54]<Senpai>ok
[00:15:56]<Senpai>np
[00:15:58]<add1sun>just plain http
[00:16:17]<add1sun>cost more moneys for SSL
[00:17:08]<add1sun>haven't seen josh in a while - i wonder if he got anywheres along on the svn repo
[00:17:36]<Senpai>I doubt it.
[00:17:42]<Senpai>He's been buried
[00:17:51]<Senpai>But then again, so have we all, eh?
[00:18:11]<add1sun>yeah, i haven't been very active in dojo meself either
[00:18:38]<add1sun>ghop and book are sucking more of my free time right now
[00:21:30]* Senpai curses the default username of rocktreesky_senpai
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[00:21:48]<add1sun>hehehe
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[00:25:02]<Senpai>Unfuddle is crazy
[00:25:21]<Senpai>"A password may not contain a !, but can contain a @ or a %."
[00:25:26]<Senpai>WTF, mate?
[00:26:01]<Senpai>Passwords with a period are cool, but an ampersand is a no-no?
[00:26:10]<Senpai>Who makes up this shite?
[00:26:22]<add1sun>craxy people
[00:26:29]<add1sun>er crazy ones too
[00:26:46]<add1sun>craxy = crazy people who are also on crack
[00:27:01]<Senpai>add1sun: I can't check out the svn repo
[00:27:03]<Senpai>help me!
[00:27:09]<add1sun>rut roh!
[00:27:13]* Senpai begs for a lifeline
[00:27:16]<add1sun>what does it wanting from you?
[00:27:22]<Senpai>svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/rocktreesky_dojo'
[00:27:30]<Senpai>svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/rocktreesky_dojo': authorization failed (http://rocktreesky.unfuddle.com)
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[00:27:56]<Senpai>I changed my user AND my pass within the site too, just to make sure i had it right
[00:28:13]<add1sun>Senpai, when you put the svn address in
[00:28:19]<add1sun>and it prompts for password
[00:28:33]<add1sun>it will try to use your local username
[00:28:39]<Senpai>I saw that
[00:28:40]<add1sun>so you need to hit enter
[00:28:47]<Senpai>and I just skipped ahead
[00:28:51]<add1sun>and then put in yer rock..._senpai
[00:28:52]<Senpai>by hitting Return once
[00:28:58]<add1sun>ah ok
[00:29:41]<add1sun>and then you do yer ferreal username on unfuddle
[00:29:49]<add1sun>and then yer password huh?
[00:29:58]<Senpai>It is 'rocktreesky', right? Not 'rock treee ski' or some wierd girly thing like that?
[00:30:03]<add1sun>hahah
[00:30:05]* Senpai giggles to himself
[00:30:10]<add1sun>yeah, no that is right
[00:30:19]<add1sun>but ya know sometimes unfuddle gets weird
[00:30:25]<add1sun>and does that PROPFIND shit
[00:30:34]<add1sun>then in a few minutes it works again
[00:30:48]<Senpai>I wonder how hard it would be for me to install an SVN server
[00:30:55]<Senpai>me googles for instructions
[00:31:08]<add1sun>but um, hey Senpai i just clicked the leave feedback linkn on dd.com
[00:31:12]<add1sun>and it worked man
[00:31:18]<Senpai>Whaa?
[00:31:22]<Senpai>I didn't do it
[00:31:29]* Senpai looks at dmitrig01|idle
[00:31:48]<Senpai>Ahhh, HAH! http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/server/svnserver.html
[00:31:52]* add1sun tries to actually leave ffedback
[00:32:13]<Senpai>Line by line instructions, and not in French either!
[00:32:21]<EclipseGc>haha
[00:33:32]<add1sun>Senpai, oh dude
[00:33:40]<add1sun>it totally worked when i was logged in
[00:33:46]<add1sun>i think it is just perms!
[00:33:50]<Senpai>oh, noes!
[00:33:58]<Senpai>Let's fix that right away!
[00:34:03]* Senpai check it out
[00:34:40]<add1sun>hah!
[00:34:45]<Senpai>I see it
[00:34:48]<add1sun>anon didn't have create feedback perms
[00:34:51]<Senpai>"create feedback content"
[00:34:57]<Senpai>add1sun: fix it
[00:35:01]<add1sun>got it
[00:35:13]<Senpai>Why, oh why didn't we check that out beforenow?
[00:35:18]<Senpai>It;s been two months!
[00:35:20]<add1sun>dude we are stooopiud
[00:35:31]<add1sun>hahahaha!
[00:35:35]* Senpai officially hands over the Immunity Idol
[00:35:36]<add1sun>easiest bug fix evah!
[00:36:16]<Senpai>"This is Dateline for Sunday, December 9th, 2007."
[00:36:54]<Senpai>"The dojii cannot adminster their own site. Also in other world news, Persia is no longer a country...."
[00:37:30]<add1sun>hehehe
[00:37:31]<Senpai>I wanna know how that got unset in the first place?
[00:37:39]<add1sun>yeah, that is weird
[00:37:45]<Senpai>All I've ever done to the site is module updates
[00:37:53]<flk>lol
[00:37:56]<Senpai>And even that was only after testing on a localhost
[00:38:01]<flk>you guys are hilarious
[00:38:02]<Senpai>This is embarassing
[00:38:10]* add1sun has never looked at perms, nmuch less set/unset them
[00:38:10]<Senpai>It;s a good thing this channel isn't LOGGED!
[00:38:13]<Senpai>Doh!
[00:38:33]<flk>Senpai: as they say there is a first time for everything ;)
[00:39:08]<Senpai>Hmmm, why do anon users have 'adminster pathauto' permission?
[00:39:15]* Senpai is kidding, of course
[00:42:56]<Senpai>factoids?
[00:42:56]<Druplicon>factoids are made up 91% of the time
[00:58:04]<Senpai>So how do I interrupt a curl command that's gone amok?
[00:58:27]<Senpai>It;s printing the results to my terminal screen, rather than storing them on the remote server
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[01:14:22]<dmitrig01|idle>Senpai: pongy
[01:14:38]<NikLP>CTRL-C?
[01:14:43]<NikLP>Senpai: ^
[01:14:44]<Senpai>dmitrig01|idle
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[01:15:11]<Senpai>NikLP: I had to let it finish printing it's garishness to stdout
[01:15:21]<NikLP>nasty :p
[01:15:54]<Senpai>Cause I forgotted the -O flag
[01:16:00]<Senpai>Neve rdo that!
[01:16:14]<Senpai>It looks scary
[01:21:11]<dmitrig01>Senpai: what???
[01:21:53]<Senpai>dmitrig01: You pingeth-ed me
[01:21:58]<dmitrig01>oh
[01:22:04]<dmitrig01>http://drupaldojo.org/live-lessons
[01:22:12]<Senpai>oh yeah, I saw that
[01:22:14]<Senpai>I like it
[01:22:14]<dmitrig01>thats for 2.0
[01:22:16]<Senpai>Great call
[01:22:25]<dmitrig01>any other suggestions?
[01:23:25]<Senpai>Figure out how to make the live.dojo section broadcast a full-motion video countdown to the ['#lesson_time']['hour']
[01:23:51]<Senpai>Then we'd be cool
[01:24:06]<dmitrig01>full motion video countdown?
[01:24:32]<Senpai>The live.drupaldojo page would be a webaant clone, right?'
[01:24:37]<Senpai>It;d look the same
[01:24:37]<dmitrig01>no
[01:24:40]<dmitrig01>no
[01:24:40]<dmitrig01>no
[01:24:41]<dmitrig01>no
[01:24:47]<dmitrig01>aaaahhhhhhh
[01:24:50]* dmitrig01 hates that page
[01:24:53]<dmitrig01>so ugly
[01:24:54]<Senpai>So if it looks similar to that, why have a blank screen?
[01:24:59]<Senpai>hehe
[01:25:06]<Senpai>no, not just like that
[01:25:12]<Senpai>But the same idea
[01:25:15]<dmitrig01>no
[01:25:16]<dmitrig01>similar
[01:25:18]<Senpai>embedded audio
[01:25:20]<Senpai>all that crap
[01:25:33]<dmitrig01>when you first go to it, it has a countdown
[01:25:42]<dmitrig01>and directions for connecting directly
[01:25:43]<Senpai>And why not have the site broadcasting a full-screen 'countdown' slate?
[01:26:05]<Senpai>Something like color bars, but with a folating text in the middle
[01:26:09]<dmitrig01>lol
[01:26:17]<Senpai>*floating text
[01:26:23]<dmitrig01>i'll make a mockup with my twisted sense of how mockups work
[01:26:51]<Senpai>I'm actually wondering if we should even support direct VNC connections?
[01:27:06]<dmitrig01>yes
[01:27:11]<Senpai>Cause if we do, we have to mess with TeamSpeak support too
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[01:27:15]<dmitrig01>they are better than that page
[01:27:26]<dmitrig01>I'd like to connect direct
[01:27:27]<Senpai>But if we don't, all we gotta do is make sure the bot is signed into TS
[01:27:40]<dmitrig01>the quality is so much better
[01:27:40]<Senpai>Well, you and I can always do that
[01:28:05]<Senpai>But why should we manufacture a tech support nightmare for ourselves?
[01:29:21]<Senpai>On another note, what bloody flags do I have to set in order to gunzip a .tar.gz file directly to it's normal self?
[01:29:34]<Senpai>I keep ending up with a .tar file left over
[01:29:49]<Senpai>And then I have to de-tar-ift it
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[01:36:22]<add1sun>Senpai, gtar xvzf file.tar.gz?
[01:36:42]<add1sun>or do gunzip and pipe to tar
[01:39:56]<Senpai>Why is it that I can never remember the -xvzf flags?
[01:40:13]<EclipseGc>you don't use it much?
[01:40:27]<Senpai>Is there a nursery rhyme that you guys recite before untarring stuff?
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[01:40:34]<EclipseGc>no
[01:40:36]<Senpai>No, I seldom, if never use it
[01:41:07]<add1sun>i just say to myslef eXtract verbose zip file
[01:41:29]<add1sun>or look it up ;)
[01:42:14]* Senpai make a new TextMate snippy just to store this tidbit
[01:43:17]<add1sun>hey good idea i shuld totally put that in my iclip
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[01:47:29]<Senpai>eXtract Verbose Zip File
[01:47:31]<Senpai>Saved!
[01:47:45]<Senpai>aroo? iClip?
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[01:49:20]<add1sun>Senpai, iclip is a little app that stores snippets of stuff
[01:49:27]<add1sun>and records clipboard stuff
[01:49:29]<Senpai>I want one too!
[01:49:37]<add1sun>i keep my cvs checout crap in there
[01:49:57]<add1sun>so if i need a new module i just pop open iclip and select the snippet for that
[01:50:01]<add1sun>and it pastes it in for me
[01:50:03]<Senpai>I've been saving my cvs customized crap in a .txt file in TextMate
[01:50:22]<Senpai>Once again, add1sun is cooler than me.
[01:50:25]<Senpai>Not by much,
[01:50:30]<Senpai>But I'm just sayin
[01:50:38]<add1sun>haha, welli went on a tear with little mac apps there for awhile
[01:50:45]<add1sun>when i first got my mac
[01:50:54]<add1sun>iclip ain't free though
[01:51:01]<add1sun>but i find it really frickin handy
[01:51:37]<add1sun>i got it in something like a macheist bundle
[01:52:00]* dmitrig01 never got how macheist worked
[01:52:24]<Senpai>dmitrig01: You need a handgun to really make it work
[01:52:29]<add1sun>hehe
[01:52:36]<add1sun>hm, they have an iclip lite now
[01:53:05]<add1sun>http://inventive.us/iCliplite/
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[01:53:34]<add1sun>that is a widget
[01:53:48]<add1sun>but the full iclip is actually a little side dock thing
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[01:54:32]<add1sun>so i have it in the right of my window and when i need it i just mouse to the right, find the clip i want and click it
[01:54:43]<add1sun>then it pastes in wherever my mouse was
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[01:55:23]<Senpai>Ok, I soooo must have one of those
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[02:02:45]<gusaus|lurk>pats are 13-0 - just have to beat and 0-13 team and the 2 crap new york teams :D
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[02:19:49]<gusaus|lurk>has anyone tried talkshoe? wonder if that could be used for dojo type activity - http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/main.jsp?pushNav=1&cmd=home
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[02:24:39]<Senpai>hurrah!
[02:24:58]<Senpai>I got the SVN repo from dev.dojo.com!
[02:33:35]<gusaus|lurk>Senpai: awesome!
[02:39:24]<NikLP>gusaus|lurk: wow the pats are totally battering the ravens eh?!
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[02:40:21]<gusaus|lurk>NikLP: must be looking at a different game in the UK - it's the colts beating the ravens
[02:40:40]<gusaus|lurk>pats barely beat 'em last week
[02:41:17]<NikLP>gusaus|lurk: uhhh yeah sorry
[02:41:29]<NikLP>it's late and I'm starting to come down with something
[02:41:38]<NikLP>and the "something" isn't a "she", worse luck
[02:42:09]<add1sun>NikLP, yeah poor ravens got trounced last week :(
[02:42:22]<add1sun>and this week is no better eh?
[02:43:04]<NikLP>add1sun, gusaus|lurk : heh well I'm sat here with my niners hat on, so go f***in' figure!
[02:43:28]<NikLP>never has the word "suXXor" been used with so much accuracy... :p
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[02:44:11]<add1sun>haha
[02:44:35]<NikLP>the niners offensive line is like wet toilet paper ffs :(
[02:45:02]<gusaus|lurk>at least you're not a diehard dolphins fan - that would be a bit tough these days
[02:45:48]<NikLP>gusaus|lurk: as we say in this country, "fuck that for a game of soldiers"
[02:46:21]* gusaus|lurk writes that one down
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[02:54:38]<NikLP>gusaus|lurk: just saw that double lateral 56yd TD pass from the Pats game, WOW.
[02:57:37]<gusaus|lurk>NikLP: yeah - it's almost like they planned to have randy moss drop the ball to throw em off
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[02:57:53]<NikLP>heh
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[02:58:02]<EclipseGc>woohoo, finally replaced my old personal site with drupal
[02:58:17]<NikLP>EclipseGc: hah I'm doing that right now! :)
[02:58:41]<EclipseGc>NikLP: been contemplating it a while?
[02:58:57]<NikLP>yeah somewhat!
[02:59:03]<NikLP>tricky move from textpattern :p
[02:59:12]<add1sun>hah! i moved my site to drupal but never got around to theming it
[02:59:14]<EclipseGc>I've still got tons of work, cause it was all manual
[02:59:36]<NikLP>I actually kept my existing design, mostly - and also moved all the nodes manually... which was nice.
[03:00:00]<add1sun>well i switched from freelance to just personal site
[03:00:01]<EclipseGc>NikLP: yeah, I'm probably going to do the same
[03:00:10]<add1sun>so the whole design sort of had to go
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[03:00:33]<NikLP>add1sun: ack :p
[03:00:49]<add1sun>which is why it is plain vanilla right noe
[03:00:51]<add1sun>now
[03:01:08]<NikLP>I really can't be bothered to redesign mine
[03:01:24]<NikLP>it's taken me a bloody age to cram the old code into a D5 theme
[03:01:31]<add1sun>i'd love to redesign mine but i can't justify the time needed for it
[03:01:52]<EclipseGc>any of you all played with web file manager
[03:02:01]<add1sun>i am actually looking forward to css-only themes in 6
[03:02:17]<add1sun>so i can just pop some premade css in there and be done :p
[03:02:26]<add1sun>EclipseGc, nope
[03:02:26]* EclipseGc isn't so sure he's thrilled about ccs only themes
[03:02:40]<EclipseGc>add1sun: it's WAY cool
[03:02:56]* NikLP doesn't really understand the concept...
[03:03:07]<add1sun>css only for a quick fix on a personal site beats garland any day in my book
[03:03:14]<EclipseGc>NikLP: web file manager?
[03:03:20]<EclipseGc>or css only?
[03:03:25]<NikLP>css only
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[03:03:40]<NikLP>I did look at WebFM but it was yonks ago, can't really help :p
[03:03:54]<EclipseGc>oh, I don't need help, it's just cool as crap
[03:04:49]<NikLP>yeah I looked at it when I had to do some uploady stuff, but I ended up with TinyMCE so I had to go with IMCE
[03:04:51]<add1sun>NikLP, http://jeff.viapositiva.net/node/539
[03:04:58]<NikLP>DEEP AND EVERLASTING JOYYYY
[03:06:05]<EclipseGc>NikLP: I've used my personal site for image and file hosting for ages, so this is super awesome for me
[03:06:29]<NikLP>I think I will eventually get round to this thinking.. :)
[03:08:31]<Senpai>add1sun: Why does our repo have CVS folders in it?
[03:09:29]<add1sun>Senpai, cvs checkouts from d.o
[03:09:41]<Senpai>add1sun: ahhh, sweet
[03:09:44]<add1sun>that is beauty of cvs with svn
[03:09:48]<add1sun>no conflicts
[03:10:01]<Senpai>We've got drupal.org CVS stuff under SVN control
[03:10:05]<Senpai>We rule
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[03:10:17]<add1sun>so we can cvs up the stuff from d.o and then svn commit that to the repo
[03:10:30]<Senpai>ok, so, if I do a full checkout of the trunk and all,
[03:10:44]<Senpai>What should I set my vhost to?
[03:10:57]<add1sun>um, i dunno :p
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[03:11:06]<add1sun>to the html dir
[03:11:16]* add1sun doesn't actually use VH
[03:11:20]<Senpai>If I'm trying to get a vhost running on
[03:11:21]<add1sun>i'm lazy like that
[03:11:25]<Senpai>oh, never mind then
[03:11:45]<add1sun>yeah i really should figure out the VH thing locally
[03:12:04]<add1sun>but it works fine for me just doing the checkout of the web root to my sites dir
[03:12:22]<add1sun>and then i do a full svn checkout in another dev location
[03:16:28]<NikLP>add1sun: what's that crazy audio player/module you have on lullabot?
[03:16:44]<add1sun>NikLP, just audio module
[03:17:04]<add1sun>afaik
[03:17:09]<NikLP>oh cool - know much about the status of embedded media field?
[03:17:28]<add1sun>nope, i'm really not a media person
[03:17:38]<NikLP>can I quote you on that?! :p
[03:17:43]<add1sun>hahaha
[03:17:48]<gusaus|lurk>so is there going to be project module/casetracker type functionality on dojo2.0 and/or would it make sense to create a project on d.o.
[03:17:49]<add1sun>it is funny
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[03:18:05]<gusaus|lurk>not even know what i'm asking....
[03:18:07]<add1sun>cuz i do so many videos people assume i am all up on the video encoding/media crap
[03:18:20]<add1sun>and all i know is what i need to know to get the job done
[03:18:30]<add1sun>i have nooo general media knowledge at all
[03:18:49]<add1sun>gusaus|lurk, afaik we wanted to st up project.module
[03:18:51]<NikLP>well that's obviously more than the people who are asking you know, otherwise they wouldn't be asking!
[03:18:59]<NikLP>silly moose :)
[03:19:02]<add1sun>and work on the integration of project with svn
[03:19:42]<add1sun>no, NikLP like people try to engage in like, real media discussions with me and i have no idea what they are talking about :p
[03:19:44]<NikLP>no one loves case tracker?
[03:19:50]<NikLP>add1sun: hehe :)
[03:20:21]* gusaus|lurk is playing around w/ project module on this site - http://learning.pepperalleyproductions.com/project
[03:21:10]<add1sun>well NikLP the idea is that if dojo uses project module we can help with dev on it and since d.o relaies on it we nee dmore people knowledgable there
[03:21:29]<NikLP>true enough
[03:21:34]<gusaus|lurk>wonder if that would be a good way to submit/track lessons and dojo projects
[03:21:37]<NikLP>just CT doesn't seem to get any love
[03:21:37]<add1sun>it is a feed back to the community thing as much as a we need this thing
[03:22:45]<add1sun>gusaus|lurk, well ideally we can use it for all dojo ticket needs
[03:23:06]<add1sun>it would be a great use case for making project generally usable
[03:23:21]<NikLP>negating the need for poor old case tracker.... :(
[03:23:26]<add1sun>but we really need to help jpetso get svn integration working
[03:23:29]* NikLP plays a solitary violin...
[03:23:35]<add1sun>once we get svn set up, that is....
[03:23:49]<add1sun>NikLP, well CT has its uses i guess
[03:23:53]<add1sun>i've nevr used it
[03:24:06]<add1sun>but it would be better to make project more generally useful
[03:24:24]<add1sun>so that CT isn't needed
[03:24:30]<NikLP>confess I've never used either, but from a project management POV I don't think Project is the way forward right now
[03:24:40]<add1sun>and more people will use and therfore help project
[03:25:01]<add1sun>NikLP, project needs lots of love and work to get it there
[03:25:02]<NikLP>there is definitely a need for something like basecamp that can handle general support tickets and change management
[03:25:22]<gusaus|lurk>we really need to gather all these features/requirements/dojo ideas in one place - spec it out like we'd do for a client
[03:25:24]<add1sun>NikLP, i agree, which is why we need to make project better and more flexible
[03:25:38]<add1sun>but since no one uses it, no one helps poor dww out :(
[03:25:45]<NikLP>anyway it's 3.30am and I'm coming down with some ungodly virus as we speak, so I'm retiring to mon boudoir.
[03:25:56]<NikLP>add1sun: it'll be all right soon :)
[03:26:06]<NikLP>after we port all the damn contribs to 6 of course
[03:26:14]<add1sun>NikLP, haha, i'm working on image man
[03:26:20]<add1sun>need peeps to help out
[03:26:37]<add1sun>d.o can't upgrade til we get the basics in order
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[03:33:30]<NikLP>image...ew
[03:33:57]<NikLP>that conversation about images in barca needs fleshing into something of Great Beauty
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[03:39:40]<NikLP>wow the ravens scored...
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[05:00:48]<aboyousif>good morning dojo
[05:01:07]<dmitrig01>mornin
[05:01:11]<dmitrig01>(or night here)
[05:02:08]<aboyousif>hi dmitrig01 how are you ?
[05:02:15]<dmitrig01>good, how about you>?
[05:02:48]<aboyousif>i'm ok .. little sleepy but fine :)
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[05:04:03]<aboyousif>dmitrig01, is there a way to override views caching ? .. when i link to the views page the last filter i applied is set by default not the one i need as a default ..
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[05:37:40]<dmitrig01>Night all
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[09:09:54]<cabbiepete>?
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[13:43:37]<guardian>hey dudes do you go netvibes or rather igoogle ?
[13:47:25]<thecoolone19>i prefer netvibes
[13:48:58]<guardian>i'm trying them both at the moment
[13:49:01]<guardian>hard to decide :)
[13:50:19]<thecoolone19>netvibes just looks cooler and has more widgets
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[17:05:16]<guardian>Michelle: do you remember that javascript stuff that offers an alternative to thickbox or lighbox ?
[17:05:25]<guardian>it's jssomething
[17:05:29]<guardian>but i can't remember the name
[17:05:39]<Michelle>No idea... I use thickbox
[17:05:43]<guardian>but i'm pretty sure you made me discover that like few months ago
[17:05:47]<guardian>arrg
[17:07:10]<jacine>guardian: Is this what you're talking about: http://drupal.org/project/jlightbox
[17:07:18]<guardian>no
[17:07:29]<jacine>ok
[17:07:34]<guardian>it's a script that is not based on jquery or prototype or else
[17:07:46]<jacine>ahh
[17:08:21]<Michelle>Oh, I think I know what you mean... The one where the pictures come up kinda cool like slowly expanding and then you can move it around the page?
[17:08:28]<guardian>yeah
[17:09:06]<Michelle>Hmm... Yeah... Trying to remember what that was called
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[17:10:24]<Michelle>It would be linked to in a post in my tracker... But that's like 50 pages long. LOL
[17:10:45]<jacine>lol... It sounds cool.
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[17:11:50]<Michelle>Sorry, I can't look anymore now. My toddler is beating me up with a book because I'm notreading it to him
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[18:04:32]<aboo>How can I add a taxonomy term to every node of a specific type?
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[18:06:50]<aboyousif>aboo: http://drupal.org/node/22543
[18:06:55]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/22543 => Taxonomy Defaults => 1 IRC mention
[18:08:21]<aboo>aboyousif: tnx but this is a one type thing, I was thinking of a sql query to add tid = [TERMIDHERE] WHERE node_type = "[TYPEHERE]"
[18:09:08]<aboyousif>aboo: maybe you need to use hook_nodeapi and assign it
[18:14:00]<Senpai>nodeapi can perform that function for you on a case by case basis, and do the update during the creating of a node, or the editing of a node.
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[20:14:15]<BrianV>Dojo - what is the best way to allow a user to upload a file, and then process it by a module?
[20:14:30]<BrianV>for instance, I want to allow users to upload a CSV file to provide values to a module of mine
[20:20:31]<Senpai>If all you want to do is deposit files on the server, and then fopen them with another module, use the core's upload.module. Easy, functional, everyone knows how it works.
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[20:23:13]<BrianV>Senpai: are there any hooks that are fired immediately after the file is uploaded that I could use to grab the file of fopen it?
[20:23:28]<Senpai>oh, now thats a good question!
[20:23:36]<Senpai>I think Asset MAnager has one of those
[20:23:47]<BrianV>the thing I am trying to do is
[20:23:48]<Senpai>But it's not set up for CSV files by default.
[20:24:00]<Senpai>Massaging it into submission isn't too hard though
[20:24:06]<BrianV>I will have a separate table handling the contents of these CSV files
[20:24:22]<BrianV>and I want users to update this table by uploading CSV files
[20:24:36]<BrianV>so I need to grab them as they are uploaded, then I can handle them via PHP
[20:25:04]<BrianV>and you are saying that upload.module would be a good place to start with that?
[20:25:26]<Senpai>BrianV: Poke around in here for a ck field that might do something cool http://drupal.org/search/node/cck+category%3A14
[20:25:31]<Senpai>*cck field
[20:26:26]<Senpai>I'm pretty sure that if you've got a CCK file field that's being saved to the db, nodeapi can reach out and touch someone during that submit hook
[20:26:46]<Senpai>And that would be your ticket to paradise
[20:27:26]<BrianV>sounds like it
[20:28:19]<BrianV>so a CCK FileField, and use nodeapi on 'submit' and 'update', use it to grab $node->field_upload_file, fopen the file, and play with it?
[20:28:28]<BrianV>is the file uploaded before the node is saved to the database?
[20:28:56]<Senpai>no
[20:29:10]<Senpai>the file is tasked from the local drive
[20:29:24]<Senpai>and then, upon node edit's submit,
[20:29:42]<Senpai>it uploads and saves the file to the /files/ dir.
[20:30:02]<Senpai>and then performs the db insert of the node itself
[20:30:16]<Senpai>So yes, i guess it does do things in the order you need!
[20:30:27]<BrianV>ok, well, that makes that end of things nice and simple
[20:30:38]<BrianV>now I need to find a way to output Excel files
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[20:30:57]<Senpai>"..there's a module for that. (tm)"
[20:30:58]<BrianV>or, if that isn't possible (it's not, AFAIK), then to output CSV files
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[20:31:50]<Senpai>(for seen) Lunching!
[20:32:09]<NikLP>any drush users in here?
[20:34:42]<NikLP>BrianV: views_bonus has a CSV export IIRC
[20:34:46]<guardian>good evening
[20:35:59]<BrianV>NikLP: I was just looking for that
[20:36:14]<BrianV>This may be quite an easy thing to do
[20:36:40]<NikLP>let's hope so...
[20:36:44]<NikLP>do you use drush? :p
[20:36:56]<BrianV>so more or less, once I have this table build, I just need to start adding the Key-Value pairs to the node object
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[20:38:15]<NikLP>NFI mate
[20:46:11]<BrianV>Senpai: is there an easy way via a module to take the contents of a table, and add it to the $node object
[20:46:28]<BrianV>well, I know there is, but would that be best done via the nodeapi?
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[21:05:17]<guardian>can someone give me a hand with views ?
[21:05:32]<guardian>i'm trying to have a view that filters the result for nodes of the current month only
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[21:31:36]<NikLP>any buddylist users here?
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[21:42:28]<webavant>is there a module that creates a field in the user/add form to choose some taxonomy terms and creates a views filter that allows you to filter based on that user preference?
[21:43:19]<NikLP>webavant: say that again, slower? :p
[21:43:51]<guardian>so you want to add a field to user/add form
[21:43:51]<NikLP>if you want to add any fields to the user reg forms, there's a couple of choices
[21:43:54]<guardian>i don't know how to do that
[21:43:58]<guardian>however if you find out how
[21:44:01]<guardian>there is cck_taxonomy
[21:44:05]<guardian>that provides taxonomy as a field
[21:44:08]<NikLP>Bio let's you do that (as of 5 hrs ago)
[21:44:16]<NikLP>not packaged yet
[21:44:25]<NikLP>cck_taxonomy?
[21:44:29]<NikLP>bah
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[21:44:44]<guardian>merlinofchaos: do you accept support question by chance ? (views 1)
[21:45:02]<guardian>NikLP: bah what ?
[21:45:19]<NikLP>thought the bot would give me the uel but no matter
[21:45:21]<NikLP>url
[21:45:23]<guardian>haha
[21:45:31]<guardian>http://drupal.org/project/cck_taxonomy
[21:45:37]<NikLP>yeah I'm there now! :P
[21:46:03]<guardian>Druplicon: help
[21:46:03]<Druplicon>Detailed information is available by asking for "help <feature>" where <feature> is one of: Botagotchi, Factoids, Function Lookups, Logging, Project URLs, Seen.
[21:46:15]<merlinofchaos>guardian: Not so much right now =)
[21:46:19]<NikLP>webavant: so it looks like you can add taxonomy dropdowns using cck_taxonomy (reading this now) and Bio, or possibly nodeprofile
[21:46:26]<guardian>merlinofchaos: ok
[21:46:45]<NikLP>bio is easier I think - and like I say, you can enter values on the reg screen ... tomorrow
[21:46:52]<NikLP>merlinofchaos: I'll try and help here
[21:47:00]<NikLP>guardian: sup? (views)
[21:47:05]<guardian>ah thx
[21:47:28]<guardian>yeah well i would like my view to display only the nodes for the current month
[21:47:34]<guardian>but i'm unsure about where to hack
[21:47:41]<NikLP>ah ok
[21:47:48]<webavant>wonder if taxorole would be good for that
[21:47:50]<guardian>somehow i could inspire myself form the code of the month argument handling code
[21:48:46]<guardian>there is the builtin "Created Time" filter but i using "now" minus "number_of_seconds_in_a_month" is not exactly what i want
[21:48:57]<guardian>s/but i using/but using/
[21:49:20]<merlinofchaos>guardian: There isn't an existing filter for that. You'd have to write one.
[21:49:33]<merlinofchaos>guardian: It'd be a good contribution to the bonus pack, probably.
[21:49:35]<guardian>and to write that, what's the best place ?
[21:49:39]<guardian>ok a module
[21:49:50]<merlinofchaos>guardian: Yea, a module, provide a filter; put it on a dummy table.
[21:49:59]<NikLP>merlinofchaos: can't you use filters?
[21:49:59]<guardian>just so i know, could i write that in argument handling code ? (since it's the only place where i can enter php)
[21:50:18]<NikLP>webavant: taxorole? wassat?
[21:51:08]<webavant>some new modle
[21:51:08]<webavant>module.... who knows
[21:51:11]<NikLP>guardian: I would have thought that you could use args code for that? as long as you have some sensible args to pass in
[21:51:18]<NikLP>webavant: made it up just now? :P
[21:51:32]<NikLP>oh no there it is :p
[21:51:48]<webavant>nah it's real
[21:52:06]<guardian>real from the instant module bloat :)
[21:54:30]<NikLP>buffet hog bloat syndrome :P
[21:54:45]<NikLP>webavant: so you're set then yeah?
[21:55:15]<webavant>I dunno?
[21:55:48]<webavant>I think nodeprofile allows you to assign the profile nodes to a taxonomy category right?
[21:55:54]<webavant>So in theory, I should be able to set categories on a user
[21:56:15]<merlinofchaos>NikLP: There are no existing filters to do that.
[21:56:20]<merlinofchaos>NikLP: I always wanted to, but never did it.
[21:56:27]<webavant>then filter views based on nodeprofile: category...
[21:56:40]<NikLP>merlinofchaos: suuuurely you can do it with arg code?
[21:56:56]<NikLP>as long as he knows what points are the start and end?
[21:56:58]<merlinofchaos>NikLP: Sure.
[21:56:59]<NikLP>of the month
[21:57:07]<NikLP>ok well no worries then :)
[21:57:15]<merlinofchaos>NikLP: Yea, that's another way to do it.
[21:57:24]<NikLP>s'only one query innit? :)
[21:57:31]<merlinofchaos>NikLP: Calculate the start and end points yourself and modify the filters accordingly.
[21:57:33]<merlinofchaos>Easy as pie.
[21:57:42]<NikLP>something like that :)
[21:57:47]<Senpai>BrianV; yes. Build the node, then load the table, theme it with the theme('table') function, the attach it to the chosen content type via nodeapi.
[21:59:19]<guardian>merlinofchaos: what do you think if i try to provide new operators for Node: Created Time and Node: Updated Time ?
[21:59:34]<merlinofchaos>guardian: It gets very complex to do that.
[22:00:12]<guardian>in terms of code or usability ?
[22:00:46]<guardian>if i have to code something, i prefer trying to submit a patch so that it's useful to others
[22:00:49]<merlinofchaos>guardian: Mostly usability
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[22:07:41]<aboyousif>merlinofchaos: i have a question about views .. when i apply a filter to a views then click on the views page link the filter is still applied to the results and i need to select <all> or none to reset it ..
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[22:12:28]<NikLP>aboyousif: that's more a support question, merlin is pretty busy right now
[22:12:56]<aboyousif>NikLP: np .. thanks alot :)
[22:13:24]<NikLP>what's your question mean?
[22:13:33]<NikLP>"reset" what?
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[22:23:26]<merlinofchaos>Yea, guardian's question involved dev stuff; I'm usually quite willing to answer those, but I rarely answer actual "How to use..." Views questions. Luckily Views is a very common tool and the vast majority of those questions are answerable by many people.
[22:23:35]<merlinofchaos>#drupal-support is a good place to ask those questions.
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[22:37:10]<aboyousif>NikLP: why you set exposed filter to a value then browse the views page again (you went to another page then back to views page) it still display the same results of last filters you chose ..
[22:37:20]<aboyousif>why = when
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[22:38:54]<NikLP>aboyousif: yes, it filters progressively - so you will have to reset the views filter - I don't know of a way around that...
[22:40:17]<aboyousif>NikLP: actually i asked this question many times without getting any answer .. that is why i asked merlin as soon as i saw his name here ..
[22:41:12]<NikLP>ha well, I think that's jsut the way it works... maybe if you reword it similar to how I wrote it above and try again in -support you might get an answer...
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[22:56:27]<ChrisCharlton>question: I don't want every content type to appear in the OG group menu. Thoughts?
[22:56:30]<ChrisCharlton>I'd even like to change or inject a link
[22:56:35]<ChrisCharlton>like, I would like to change the path for "Add Group Page" to go to my /add/custom_page
[22:59:24]<gusaus>ChrisCharlton: this looks like a similar question? http://drupal.org/node/148462
[22:59:25]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/148462 => Restrict Content Types by OG Type => Content Type Administration by Organic Group, Code, normal, postponed, 1 IRC mention
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[23:00:56]<ChrisCharlton>gusaus: I've seen that one, but I'm looking for something less militant. Right now I'm really interested in figuring out how to add/edit the links that appear in the OG menu since I'd want all members to post that type but not at the standard URL.
[23:01:02]<ChrisCharlton>(I have flex forms) ;)
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[23:16:22]<webavant>maybe I should just use organic groups to do all this stuff, but it would be nice to filter views by taxonomy CCK field in a user profile
[23:16:37]<webavant>I've never used OG, should I be afraid?
[23:16:45]<ChrisCharlton>yes
[23:16:49]<webavant>lol ok
[23:16:51]<ChrisCharlton>don't rush anything!
[23:16:53]<ChrisCharlton>EVER!
[23:16:54]<ChrisCharlton>that's all
[23:17:02]<ChrisCharlton>testing, configuration tweaks, preferences...
[23:17:26]<webavant>seems like OG might be necessary for what I need to do
[23:17:42]<ChrisCharlton>look, if you present the options to a client then they choose. When you say, "Drupal!" when responding to a project doc, test EVERY idea early!
[23:18:02]<webavant>need the home page to filter content type by like 20 different user profile variables
[23:18:10]<webavant>I thought maybe add 20 roles, but yuck!
[23:18:12]<ChrisCharlton>for weeks my brain was, "OG in, OG out, OG in, OG out..."
[23:18:16]<webavant>so I thought CCK_taxonomy
[23:18:22]<webavant>in nodeprofiles
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[23:20:24]<webavant>but it doesn't appear to add the proper Views filters that I would need to filter specifically based on the taxonomies chosen by each user
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[23:21:07]<webavant>There should be a filter taxonomy: term -> usernode: taxonomy: term
[23:21:17]<webavant>or something
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[23:26:48]<webavant>or taxonomy: term -> biography: current user: term
[23:28:16]<gusaus>ChrisCharlton: incoming mail
[23:28:40]<webavant>ChrisCharlton: so really? With all this headache I'm having, I'm tempted to try out OG for my first time. You don't think I should?
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[23:28:56]<webavant>gusaus: what do you think? :D
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[23:31:35]<gusaus>i think if we can find a means to put some time into it - these sorts of things i.e. 'compare o.g. to user profiles' would be good for a dojo, 'interactive case study' type of thing
[23:31:51]<webavant>for sure
[23:33:05]<gusaus>also could be good materials for a series of screencasts
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[23:34:10]* gusaus also things we should give this a try - http://www.talkshoe.com/
[23:35:57]<webavant>sounds good...
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[23:37:28]<gusaus>maybe we could even integrate into dojo 2.0 - http://talkshoeapi.ning.com/
[23:37:59]<webavant>I think I just need to figure out what to put in the argument code to get the nodeprofile setting from the current user
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[23:43:53]<webavant>i'll have to take a look at that talkshoe for sure
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[23:48:55]<gusaus>can easily integrate into twitter...http://talkshoeapi.ning.com/video/video/show?id=1092760%3AVideo%3A623
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