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[04:32:54]<Senpai>seen add1sun's short hair?
[04:33:15]<Senpai>Hmmm, the bot knoweth not that turn of phrase.
[04:34:42]* Senpai has changed the topic to This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers! Sign up at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo | http://drupaldojo.com/
[04:34:53]<Senpai>lesson?
[04:34:53]<Druplicon>We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
[04:35:13]<Senpai>Druplicon: no lesson is <reply>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
[04:35:13]<Druplicon>Senpai: Okay.
[04:35:18]<Senpai>teacher?
[04:35:22]<Senpai>sensei?
[04:35:31]<Senpai>teamspeak?
[04:35:31]<Druplicon>Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
[04:35:41]<Senpai>irc?
[04:35:41]<Druplicon>irc is http://drupal.org/node/108355 . This link contains an explanation of the various drupal irc channels and their correct uses.
[04:35:53]<Senpai>oops, wrong acronym....
[04:35:55]<Senpai>vnc?
[04:35:55]<Druplicon>To watch and listen to the live lesson using your web browser, visit http://webavant.com/dojo1 or for direct access with a VNC client use webavant.com:6001 as the server name.
[04:38:00]<Senpai>Druplicon: no vnc is <reply>To watch *and listen* to the live lesson using only your web browser, visit http://webavant.com/dojo1 | For direct access with a VNC client use webavant.com:6001 as the server name, and get your audio through TeamSpeak. Type 'teamspeak' in the channel for audio help.
[04:38:00]<Druplicon>Senpai: Okay.
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[14:26:06]<mpare>lesson?
[14:26:06]<Druplicon>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
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[15:38:42]<Patchak>jredding, hey there
[15:38:54]<Patchak>what's up.. you never send me your mail finally
[15:38:57]<jredding>hey..
[15:39:00]<jredding>patchak: ya sorry.
[15:39:07]<jredding>things got really crazy here in Beijing
[15:39:14]<jredding>since we talked last I've moved to 2 different places.
[15:39:18]<jredding>and I'm still house hunting
[15:39:28]<Patchak>really wow
[15:39:42]<jredding>currently staying in a hotel b/c one apartmentdeal turned out to be bad..
[15:39:44]<Patchak>it's so difficult to find a room there?
[15:39:48]<Patchak>ok...
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[15:39:53]<jredding>well we're being picky..
[15:39:55]<Patchak>my god
[15:39:57]<Patchak>ok I see
[15:40:04]<Patchak>you're there with the gf?
[15:40:08]<Patchak>what does she do?
[15:40:19]<jredding>so.. I just didn't want to get into long discussion over a site that I couldn't really put any time and effort into b/c of the living situation.
[15:40:23]<jredding>I need to be a bit more stable..
[15:40:32]<jredding>I thought thing we're going a different way ;)
[15:40:37]<jredding>at least I hoped they would be.
[15:40:44]<jredding>we're both over here studying the language.
[15:40:47]<jredding>but she writes.
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[15:40:54]<jredding>for newspapers and magazines n' such.
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[15:43:19]<Patchak>jredding, yeah I understand, just let me know when you're more stable
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[15:43:32]<Patchak>I'm looking forward to translate my sites in chinese as well
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[15:54:48]<drupalino>can not see the mov files with vlc player
[15:54:56]<drupalino>on linux
[15:56:42]<guardian>what distribution are you using
[15:56:58]<drupalino>ubuntu
[15:57:49]<drupalino>can only see on browser
[15:58:11]<guardian>try installing codecs: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/codecs.html
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[15:59:57]<drupalino>wow cool i am using gpl os and gpl cms and now i can not see any open source videos...
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[16:00:59]<datagroove>at the moment http://webavant.com/dojo1/vnc.htm is showing all black on firefox 2 in os x
[16:01:22]<drupalino>realy clever...
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[16:01:27]<guardian>datagroove: sure, the lesson starts later
[16:01:30]<dmitrig01>morning dojoers
[16:01:34]<datagroove>ah
[16:01:37]<dmitrig01>lesson starts in 3 hours
[16:01:50]<NikLP>dmitrig01: can't we do it now? :)
[16:01:57]* NikLP craves knowledge
[16:01:58]<dmitrig01>NikLP: I'm not ready
[16:02:06]<NikLP>I'm kidding of course! :p
[16:02:24]<NikLP>dmitrig01: looking forward to it tho! :)
[16:02:30]<dmitrig01>NikLP: coo
[16:02:52]<NikLP>will this be similar to Josh_k's previous form api thing?
[16:03:01]<NikLP>I'm thinking he did one about a year ago?
[16:03:13]<NikLP>or is this a mini lesson...? :)
[16:03:41]<dmitrig01>kind of both
[16:03:51]<dmitrig01>I'm going to try to keep it under 1 hour
[16:03:58]<dmitrig01>because lessons are better that way
[16:04:10]<datagroove>this from the drupaldojo.com site thru me off "Lesson 37: Basics of Form API 3 in 30 minutes or less"
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[16:05:33]<drupalino>guardian, why dojo do not use ogg?
[16:05:47]<guardian>i don't know ...
[16:06:16]<drupalino>why dojo do not use ogg?
[16:06:45]<mpare>haha
[16:07:31]<drupalino>mpare: what ha ha?
[16:07:39]<mpare>oops wrong window
[16:08:35]<drupalino>download of all gstream and just dont play .mov files
[16:08:42]<dmitrig01>http://blip.tv/file/529950 <-- good video
[16:09:43]<drupalino>guardian can you transform a .mov file to .ogg?
[16:10:00]<guardian>try mencoder
[16:10:49]<drupalino>http://drupaldojo.com/lesson/jquery-resurrected
[16:10:53]<drupalino>this video
[16:12:25]<dmitrig01>http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/05/internet-explorer-8.aspx <-- lol
[16:13:38]<guardian>geez
[16:13:41]<guardian>and those guys are paid
[16:13:42]<guardian>;)
[16:15:34]<drupalino>mencoder: can you transform a .mov file to ogg?
[16:15:37]<NikLP>god I hate them so much
[16:15:46]<NikLP>why don't they just admit defeat and give up?
[16:15:48]<NikLP>bastards!
[16:17:24]<drupalino>.mov sucks
[16:21:22]<drupalino>7 2w4zFEAwwww29ยฃ
[16:22:04]<dmitrig01>NikLP: let's test audio
[16:22:49]<NikLP>ooer
[16:22:59]<NikLP>dmitrig01: how are we doing this these days?
[16:23:02]<NikLP>browser still?
[16:23:04]<dmitrig01>NikLP: teamspeak
[16:23:08]<NikLP>aaaaagh
[16:23:11]<NikLP>don't have it
[16:23:15]<dmitrig01>well the web page works
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[16:23:33]<NikLP>thought we'd sorted it so that webavant's server was handling everrything...?
[16:23:41]<dmitrig01>yes
[16:23:46]<dmitrig01>webavants server hosts teamspeak
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[16:23:49]<dmitrig01>you can go to the web page
[16:23:52]<dmitrig01>tell me when your trhere
[16:23:58]<dmitrig01>er. no
[16:24:01]<dmitrig01>the webpage won't work
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[16:24:31]<NikLP>heh
[16:24:59]<NikLP>teamspeak I installed once, and it just looked awful, I couldn't understand what was going on at all...
[16:25:22]<dmitrig01>teamspeak?
[16:25:22]<Druplicon>Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
[16:25:26]<dmitrig01>install it again :D
[16:25:33]<NikLP>damn your eyes! :p
[16:25:37]<mpare>dmitrig01 lmao I love all those ie names
[16:26:35]<NikLP>they could call it "IE Viiile" :)
[16:28:43]<NikLP>dmitrig01: wtf is all this config garbage in this app?!
[16:28:53]<dmitrig01>NikLP: dunno
[16:29:00]<NikLP>yuk
[16:29:05]<dmitrig01>click this link
[16:29:13]<dmitrig01>teamspeak://webavant:8768
[16:29:48]<NikLP>yeah where the hell do I put the url? or does it trap from the browser?
[16:30:02]<NikLP>no inputs for anything useful on the client...
[16:30:38]<NikLP>nvm :p
[16:31:03]<NikLP>dmitrig01: [16:30:24] Connecting to webavant:8768 that's it
[16:31:23]<dmitrig01>lol
[16:31:25]<dmitrig01>go to that GDO page
[16:31:30]<dmitrig01> http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
[16:31:32]<Druplicon>http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944 => Lesson #20 - Adobe Flex within Drupal => 19 IRC mentions
[16:31:36]<NikLP>this is why I uninstalled it, POS
[16:31:59]<dmitrig01>To connect manually on windows, click Connection -> connect from the menu, and make your settings match this image, filling in your own nickname where appropriate.
[16:32:07]<dmitrig01>http://groups.drupal.org/files/instructional.jpg
[16:32:08]<dmitrig01>this image
[16:32:33]<NikLP>Our reasoning was thus:
[16:32:46]<NikLP>"simple to connect"
[16:32:50]* NikLP mumbles
[16:33:28]<dmitrig01>NikLP: I don't really care about your reason. Teamspeak is not my first choice, but that's what we use
[16:33:48]<NikLP>no, that's from the lesson #20 page!
[16:34:03]<NikLP>anyway let's not snap :p
[16:35:20]<NikLP>dmitrig01: ping :)
[16:35:24]<dmitrig01>pong
[16:35:31]<NikLP>I'm in
[16:36:35]<dmitrig01>tell me if you hear
[16:36:47]<NikLP>I heard SOMETHING :)
[16:36:52]<dmitrig01>do you hear a voice
[16:37:00]<NikLP>yeah
[16:37:09]<NikLP>not yours tho I'll warrant :)
[16:37:12]<NikLP>yes
[16:37:15]<dmitrig01>that'd be mine :D
[16:37:17]<NikLP>I can't speak I take it :)
[16:37:21]<dmitrig01>nope
[16:37:25]<NikLP>ah ok
[16:37:47]<NikLP>yeah sure
[16:37:59]<dmitrig01>ok, good, glad it works
[16:38:01]<dmitrig01>now let's test VNC
[16:38:32]<NikLP>okidoke :)
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[16:41:00]<dmitrig01>NikLP: Check VNC
[16:41:07]<mpare>looks good
[16:41:09]<NikLP>link?
[16:41:09]<Druplicon>link: http://php.net/link
[16:41:13]<NikLP>doh
[16:41:16]<dmitrig01>webavant.com/dojo1
[16:41:28]<mpare>pig latin
[16:41:33]<dmitrig01>very good!
[16:41:43]<dmitrig01>ok, everythings working
[16:41:46]<dmitrig01>now I need to prepare
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[16:42:20]<NikLP>yup looked ok to me
[16:45:02]<Senpai>Mornin.
[16:45:11]<dmitrig01>mornin
[16:46:35]<NikLP>Senpai: hola Meesta
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[16:48:10]* Senpai was just reading through the history here, when the Snak client went toes-up
[16:48:53]<Senpai>The just of it was, we need to switch to the Ogg encoder, or our children's children will walk the earth in aimless torment forever and ever?
[16:49:07]<Senpai>How
[16:49:12]<Senpai>bout this?
[16:49:16]<guardian>in fact
[16:49:22]<guardian>we're all waiting for mencoder to join
[16:49:22]<Senpai>How about we switch to Flash movies!
[16:49:24]<guardian>and convert the videos
[16:49:27]<Senpai>There, I've said it.
[16:49:46]<Senpai>Actually, I'm not really joking about this one.
[16:50:20]<Senpai>I,ve been doing some more reading on the VNC-2-SWF freeware.
[16:50:28]<guardian>i am just still amused by
[16:50:30]<Senpai>It runs on a server, can act autonomously
[16:50:31]<NikLP>well if it can end up on Blip should it be a problem what the video is?
[16:50:33]<guardian>drupalino: guardian can you transform a .mov file to .ogg?
[16:50:33]<guardian>[5:10pm] guardian: try mencoder
[16:50:46]<guardian>drupalino: mencoder: can you transform a .mov file to ogg?
[16:50:48]<guardian>:)
[16:52:10]<Senpai>and could actually be broadcasting a "Coming soon, Dmitrig01's lesson! Only 2:00 hours to go..." message in the screencast right now, rather than a boring old black screen.
[17:00:26]<dmitrig01>Senpai: I just got a 11cd box set of chopin
[17:01:01]<Senpai>dmitrig01: I fully expect to hear the 11th movement for our dojo background tunes then.
[17:01:32]<dmitrig01>Senpai: 11th movement?!
[17:01:47]<dmitrig01>Senpai: ok. do you want impromptus or mazurkas?
[17:02:15]<Senpai>mazurkas? What's... one of those?
[17:02:21]* Senpai googles
[17:02:41]<Senpai>oh wow
[17:02:52]<Senpai>Talk about wierd and cool all at the same time.
[17:03:03]* dmitrig01 says we should go for the impromptus
[17:03:09]<Senpai>yeah.
[17:03:13]<Senpai>I'd have to agree.
[17:03:30]<Senpai>Nobody wants to hear a triple-time polka this early in the morning
[17:04:04]<mpare>aww pretty music
[17:04:06]<dmitrig01>Senpai: get on teamspeak please
[17:04:09]<Senpai>sure
[17:04:16]<Senpai>lemme grap my headset
[17:04:18]<dmitrig01>mpare: those are mazurkas
[17:04:27]<dmitrig01>I bet you've heard this before
[17:04:34]<mpare>Oh I'm certain
[17:04:42]<dmitrig01>this is the most famous one
[17:04:45]<mpare>couldn't of told you who
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[17:04:57]<mpare>but I recognized it
[17:05:19]<Senpai>Tchaikovsky wrote six mazurkas?
[17:05:23]<Senpai>well well!
[17:05:39]<dmitrig01>for the impromptus
[17:05:43]<dmitrig01>this is the one I'm playing
[17:05:49]<dmitrig01>or learning more like
[17:06:38]<Senpai>ok, I'm in TS
[17:06:44]* Senpai listens...
[17:06:50]* dmitrig01 is going to talk, tell me if you hear
[17:06:59]<Senpai>meh. This is slow enough I could prolly play it...
[17:07:05]<Senpai>tee heee!
[17:07:11]<dmitrig01>did you hear me? :D
[17:07:14]<Senpai>nope
[17:07:16]<mpare>nope
[17:07:17]<Senpai>No voice
[17:07:23]<dmitrig01>oh well
[17:07:30]<dmitrig01>we'll add voice once the lesson starts
[17:07:43]<Senpai>dmitrig01: Is it the dreaded Soundflower Dilemma again?
[17:07:47]<dmitrig01>yup
[17:07:51]<Senpai>bitches!
[17:08:20]<Senpai>While we're idling, /me wants feedback on http://drupal.org/node/197957
[17:08:21]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/197957 => This patch modifies the Delete Group behavior (UI) => Organic groups, og.module, minor, patch (code needs work), 1 IRC mention
[17:08:59]<Senpai>I heard a mic just now!
[17:09:03]<Senpai>dmitrig01
[17:09:07]<Senpai>dmitrig01: talk
[17:09:18]* dmitrig01 said hello
[17:09:40]<mpare>dmitrig01 no go
[17:09:45]<dmitrig01>oh well
[17:09:57]<Senpai>miff.
[17:10:19]<dmitrig01>this is the impromptu I'm learning next
[17:10:24]<mpare>hey
[17:10:24]<dmitrig01>I hear
[17:10:43]* dmitrig01 probably has a too-small hand
[17:11:01]<Senpai>Yeah, that sounded like wuite a stretch just now
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[17:11:45]<Senpai>Somebody's got a mic open
[17:11:51]<dmitrig01>you
[17:11:51]<Senpai>I can hear clicking
[17:11:52]<Senpai>tapping
[17:11:54]<mpare>dmitrig I think
[17:12:00]<Senpai>moving a mic on a desk, perhaps?
[17:12:13]<dmitrig01>I think it's teamspeak's bad quality
[17:12:17]<mpare>haha
[17:12:17]<Senpai>hehehe
[17:12:18]<dmitrig01>it's not my mic
[17:15:14]<Senpai>Can a drupla project's name be changed once it has an official release?
[17:15:26]<Senpai>Util > Utility ?
[17:15:28]<guardian>i don't think so
[17:15:36]<guardian>otherwise nodewords would have changed to metatags
[17:15:40]<Senpai>That's a shame
[17:15:42]<guardian>and gsitemap to xmlsitemap
[17:15:42]<guardian>?
[17:15:49]<guardian>(out of my mind)
[17:15:50]<Senpai>yeah, good point
[17:16:43]<Senpai>"Well, we've got this module, see, that allows a site admin to add metatags to each node on their site. We'll call it... ummm, NodeWords?!"
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[17:17:23]<Senpai>I'm especially fond of the "Drupal Administration Menu" project.
[17:17:33]<NikLP>in what sense :P
[17:17:34]<Senpai>Everybody calls it admin_menu anyway
[17:17:37]<NikLP>tru
[17:17:46]<Senpai>What other site would it work with anyhow?
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[17:19:44]<guardian>i tried simplemenu today
[17:19:46]<guardian>it's also good
[17:19:56]<Senpai>I still don't know what the diff is
[17:21:10]<guardian>it's almost the same
[17:21:15]<guardian>only coded by different people
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[17:21:27]<guardian>i read on some issue report that they would eventually merge
[17:21:47]<guardian>something nice about simplemenu is that you can plug it at any level in the menu system
[17:21:59]<guardian>like if you plug it at the "administer" level, it behaves like admin_menu
[17:22:09]<guardian>but you can also have the whole navigation menu displayed on top of the screen
[17:22:17]<guardian>that's the main difference i noticed
[17:22:38]<Senpai>ahhh, I see
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[17:26:45]<NikLP>yeah
[17:26:53]<NikLP>I should have used that one I think :p
[17:28:41]<add1sun>Senpai, yeah it is not just an admin menu
[17:28:52]<add1sun>you can make any menu you want sit at the top
[17:29:00]<add1sun>simplemenu that is
[17:29:08]<Senpai>add1sun, you would know!
[17:29:16]<add1sun>heh, yes i would
[17:30:14]<add1sun>Senpai, dude i have no hair!
[17:30:20]<Senpai>Pictures!
[17:30:21]<add1sun>or at least a lot less
[17:30:36]<Senpai>I'm happy, jealous, and a little excited!
[17:30:39]<add1sun>hm, haha, i look really different now
[17:30:39]<Senpai>Is it cool?
[17:30:42]<Senpai>Do you love it?
[17:31:00]<add1sun>i do love it - long hair was seriously on my last nerve
[17:31:13]<add1sun>it just gets in the dam way
[17:31:15]<Senpai>You've got to love the light feeling
[17:33:23]<add1sun>i do, i do
[17:34:10]* dmitrig01 got lots of his hair cut yesterday
[17:35:40]<add1sun>hm, i took a bunch of silly photos last night with my iSight but i'm muggin in all of
[17:35:48]<add1sun>so they are pretty funny
[17:38:04]<add1sun>ugh, i really need to get writing
[17:38:07]<add1sun>silly deadlines
[17:38:19]<add1sun>i'll be back later in the day
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[17:43:52]* NikLP misses his long hair... :(
[17:45:50]<dmitrig01>bbiab - breakfast
[17:46:33]<NikLP>Senpai: have we got audio on the webpage for dojo?
[17:49:12]<trevortwining>lesson?
[17:49:12]<Druplicon>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
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[17:56:10]<Senpai>NikLP: We don't have streaming audio unless webavant is joined into TeamSpeak
[17:56:22]<NikLP>ah right
[17:56:27]<NikLP>so we need TS as well yes?
[17:56:33]<NikLP>unless tony is awake...?
[17:56:39]<NikLP>webavant: what say ye?
[17:56:43]<Senpai>Yes, we do, only if webavant doens;t show up
[17:58:45]<sutha>what music is playing? I like it
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[18:00:25]<trevortwining>teamspeak?
[18:00:25]<Druplicon>Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
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[18:13:12]<sutha>dmitrig01: are you late or do I misunderstand the 6:00 UTC?
[18:13:26]<Senpai>18:00 UTC
[18:13:27]<sutha>Current time Sunday, December 9, 2007 at 6:13:27 PM
[18:13:39]<dmitrig01>someone's got it wrong
[18:13:41]<dmitrig01>Senpai...
[18:13:47]<Senpai>What?
[18:13:59]<sutha>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=1440
[18:14:07]<Senpai>Don't look at me, I live in the USA and therefore have an automatic "duh" card.
[18:14:34]<dmitrig01>maybe we didn't accont for dst?
[18:14:37]<Senpai>wow, Universal time changed on me, and I didn't even know it
[18:14:44]<Senpai>woops!
[18:14:47]<dmitrig01>oh well
[18:14:49]* Senpai fixes
[18:14:56]<dmitrig01>lets have the lesson now
[18:15:38]<dmitrig01>Senpai: opinion?
[18:15:39]<Senpai>lesson?
[18:15:39]<Druplicon>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
[18:16:08]<Senpai>I killed it!
[18:16:37]<Senpai>Drupl94: no lesson is <reply>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 at 7:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
[18:16:44]<Senpai>Wierd.
[18:17:04]<Senpai>dmitrig01: sure why not.
[18:17:10]<dmitrig01>kk
[18:17:17]<Senpai>I'm just randomly bopping patches in the head anyway.
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[18:18:27]<dmitrig01>lesson?
[18:18:27]<Druplicon>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
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[18:19:34]<sutha>yep
[18:19:39]<pagaille>yes
[18:19:39]<jGirlyGirl>yep :)
[18:19:58]<Senpai>Blame me. I did it.
[18:20:08]<Senpai>And now I can't fix it.
[18:20:27]<Senpai>So let's pretend it never happened!
[18:20:35]<NikLP>arer we started yet...?
[18:20:35]<jGirlyGirl>lol
[18:20:39]<Senpai>"Today's lesson starts... now!"
[18:20:43]<NikLP>shiiiit!
[18:20:47]<NikLP>lesson?
[18:20:47]<Druplicon>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
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[18:21:10]<NikLP>no webavant ?
[18:21:13]<NikLP>damn TS
[18:21:22]<Senpai>datagroove: We're starting the lesson early.
[18:21:27]<Senpai>Jacine: We're starting the lesson early.
[18:21:38]<Senpai>MattKelly: We're starting the lesson early.
[18:21:45]<Senpai>mpare: We're starting the lesson early.
[18:21:55]<Senpai>pagaille: We're starting the lesson early.
[18:21:59]<Senpai>sutha: We're starting the lesson early.
[18:22:00]<pagaille>yes
[18:22:02]<NikLP>aye
[18:22:04]<jGirlyGirl>Thanks Senpai. That's me actually (Jacine)
[18:22:06]<datagroove>i can
[18:22:19]<sutha>Senpai: thanks
[18:22:22]<Senpai>trevortwining: : We're starting the lesson early.
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[18:26:04]<Senpai>Wow, we lost him.
[18:26:04]<NikLP>oh
[18:26:14]<Senpai>That was saaad.
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[18:26:18]<Senpai>What a crash!
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[18:26:22]<NikLP>bad audio tho
[18:26:26]<NikLP>whoa
[18:26:36]<trevortwining>on ubuntu, can
[18:26:41]<trevortwining>hear audio,
[18:26:43]<trevortwining>any ideas
[18:26:47]<pagaille>you sound like the pilot of an airplane!
[18:26:54]<trevortwining>sorry, can't hear audio.
[18:26:55]<NikLP>roger over under victor
[18:26:57]<pagaille>turbulence ahead
[18:27:05]<jGirlyGirl>hehe :)
[18:27:09]<NikLP>trevortwining: dmitri got crash
[18:27:20]<trevortwining>roger NikLP:
[18:27:23]<trevortwining>over
[18:27:29]<NikLP>cccchhhk
[18:28:05]<NikLP>do-eth
[18:28:22]<NikLP>lol
[18:28:23]<pagaille>:-)
[18:28:25]<jGirlyGirl>lol
[18:28:41]<NikLP>do not inflate your gzips before exiting the craft :p
[18:28:52]<NikLP>;)
[18:29:21]<NikLP>Senpai: no dmitri on irc? or is that on purpose?
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[18:29:39]<Senpai>He's prolly still fireing up his apps
[18:29:48]<jGirlyGirl>yes :)
[18:29:49]<pagaille>yes! he's back
[18:29:50]<datagroove>yes
[18:29:50]<NikLP>yup
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[18:30:09]<pagaille>yes
[18:30:12]<Senpai>yeah, got VNC.
[18:30:19]<NikLP>yes but if you're not here you won't know we're saying yes :)
[18:30:21]<Senpai>(not cotVNC)
[18:31:19]* Senpai wants MagicShade too.
[18:31:26]<Senpai> Did you guys see that?
[18:31:31]* NikLP wants !temspeak
[18:32:07]<Senpai>NikLP: So download it.
[18:32:13]<Senpai>It;s really easy.
[18:32:17]<NikLP>nuh, NOT TS
[18:32:23]<NikLP>I am running it, but it bites :p
[18:32:29]<Senpai>oh, yeah.
[18:32:34]<Senpai>I agree with ya.
[18:32:45]<NikLP>PLAYER LEFT!! (*BOOM*)
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[18:34:18]<TimRogersCool>dmitri
[18:34:21]<Senpai>But of course it's a specialized drupal formet!
[18:34:24]<TimRogersCool>Is that you on the cast?
[18:34:43]<Senpai>TimRogersCool: Please don't ping the teater until it;s question time.
[18:34:46]<Senpai>*teacher
[18:34:57]<Senpai>And yes, that's dm-itri
[18:35:00]<TimRogersCool>OK. Is there a TS server?
[18:35:07]<Senpai>teamspeak?
[18:35:07]<Druplicon>Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
[18:36:06]<TimRogersCool>I'm gonna use an OpenSource TS alternative :)
[18:36:14]<NikLP>good plan I feel :p
[18:36:17]<Senpai>I was gonna say...
[18:36:29]<Senpai>Don't capitalize the names of modules.
[18:36:54]<Senpai>The "names" you see in the list on /admin/build/modules is a Human-readable format.
[18:37:15]<Senpai>Drupal core always treats module names as lowercase-with-no-spaces.
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[18:39:05]<Senpai>Folks, we're having a live lesson in http://webavant.com/dojo1 right now. Join us!
[18:39:44]<TimRogersCool>How much bandwidth is watching this gonna use?
[18:39:53]<Senpai>It's relatively small
[18:40:00]<NikLP>you'd know
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[18:40:02]<Senpai>The screen only refreshes once per second
[18:40:20]* Senpai takes a swipe at NikLP..
[18:40:33]* NikLP ducks, spilling juice everywhere...
[18:41:45]<guardian>right now?
[18:41:49]<NikLP>yes
[18:41:51]<guardian>20 min left right ?
[18:41:59]<NikLP>nah it just started
[18:42:02]<guardian>!
[18:42:09]<NikLP>he's only written 10 lines of code :)
[18:42:18]<NikLP>20 max :p
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[18:42:58]<guardian>does the streaming applet work ?
[18:43:04]<NikLP>yeah for video
[18:43:12]<NikLP>webavant is not here so no audio from that
[18:43:14]<Senpai>guardian: nope. For that, we'd need a webavant.
[18:43:16]<NikLP>you'll have to use teamspeak
[18:43:19]<guardian>ok
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[18:44:34]<mpare>Senpai: thanks, took a shower so that I would be ready by 1, why did we start early?
[18:44:44]<Senpai>dmitrig01: Mind snapping that link into IRC for us?
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[18:45:06]<Senpai>mpare: Cause I messed up the timing
[18:45:17]<mpare>:(
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[18:45:29]<Senpai>mpare: I forgot to account for daylight savings worldwide
[18:45:38]<NikLP>Senpai: lollers! :p
[18:45:47]<Senpai>Folks, we're having a live lesson in http://webavant.com/dojo1 right now. Join us!
[18:45:58]<mpare>well hope we have other records, I started mine but... ya
[18:46:02]<jdami>no audio?
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[18:46:10]<NikLP>audio is on teamspeak
[18:46:11]<dmitrig01>http://api.drupal.org/api/file/developer/topics/forms_api_reference.html
[18:46:13]<NikLP>teamspeak?
[18:46:13]<Druplicon>Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
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[18:46:16]<dmitrig01>questions?
[18:46:20]<pagaille>nope
[18:46:22]<datagroove>nope
[18:46:24]<Senpai>dmitrig01: Mind snapping that link into IRC for us?
[18:46:27]<dmitrig01>http://api.drupal.org/api/file/developer/topics/forms_api_reference.html
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[18:46:32]<Senpai>cool.
[18:46:38]<dmitrig01>http://api.drupal.org/api/group/form/6
[18:46:40]<Senpai>I'll put it on drupaldojo.com too.
[18:46:42]<dmitrig01>http://api.drupal.org/api/file/developer/topics/forms_api.html
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[18:50:48]<Senpai>nice!
[18:51:01]* Senpai hugs form_state()
[18:53:03]<dmitrig01>questions so far?
[18:53:04]<Senpai>Looks great so far.
[18:53:05]<NikLP>dmitrig01: how is drupal_get_form working?
[18:53:06]<datagroove>so far so good
[18:53:11]<dmitrig01>NikLP: dark magic
[18:53:13]<NikLP>:p
[18:53:21]<dmitrig01>I dunno, I don't understand it
[18:53:33]<NikLP>so it's arbitrary code then basically...
[18:53:38]<datagroove>YES
[18:53:50]<Senpai>Think of it as a thing that does a thing...
[18:53:57]<NikLP>what happens if you have more than one form...?
[18:54:02]<NikLP>form function I mean
[18:54:04]<Senpai>Multistep forms in D5 were an anathama.
[18:54:19]<Senpai>NikLP: Expound on that?
[18:54:44]<NikLP>well what does drupal_get_form mean? surely a module can have more than one form function...?
[18:55:11]<Senpai>drupal_get_form?
[18:55:11]<Druplicon>drupal_get_form: [Documented summary is not one line. This is a bug. File a patch!] => drupal_get_form($form_id) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/drupal_get_form/5
[18:55:25]<NikLP>that's probably a better idea :p
[18:55:48]<Senpai>NikLP: We'll talk it through after the lesson, ok?
[18:56:10]<NikLP>s'ok I'll read the api page, I didn't know what was happening but that will probably answer my Q I think
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[18:56:46]<Senpai>About two pages worth of code in D5 to do what you guys just saw right there.
[18:56:58]<NikLP>yeah I heard
[18:57:07]<NikLP>eaton got a ROA for that in Barca :)
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[18:58:40]<Senpai>Welcome to the dojo teknos. We're having a live lesson in http://webavant.com/dojo1 right now. Please join us!
[18:59:11]<NikLP>doh
[18:59:36]<datagroove>dmitrig01 can you paste bin this code
[18:59:46]<dmitrig01>sure
[18:59:49]<dmitrig01>questions?
[18:59:55]<Senpai>So we have to empty the $form_state anytime we want to redirect
[18:59:59]<dmitrig01>yes
[19:00:02]<dmitrig01>nno
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[19:00:06]<Senpai>Welcome to the dojo, Davea1. We're having a live lesson in http://webavant.com/dojo1 right now. Please join us!
[19:00:06]<Senpai>Unless there's nothing left in the var, correct?
[19:00:07]<dmitrig01>$form_state['storage']
[19:00:11]<dmitrig01>http://pastie.textmate.org/private/mpdvomzivpyrjbkmujwjq
[19:00:14]<datagroove>is the use of the key storage( form_state['storage'] ) required or can it be any key
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[19:00:14]<Senpai>Welcome to the dojo, Morbus. We're having a live lesson in http://webavant.com/dojo1 right now. Please join us!
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[19:00:23]<Senpai>Welcome to the dojo, teknos027. We're having a live lesson in http://webavant.com/dojo1 right now. Please join us!
[19:00:31]<dmitrig01>LOL
[19:00:36]<dmitrig01>Senpai: how r u doing that?
[19:00:49]<Senpai>dmitrig01: It;s my own dark magic...
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[19:00:58]<Davea1>Senpai codes alot!
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[19:01:17]<Senpai>Welcome to the dojo, teknos885. We're having a live lesson in http://webavant.com/dojo1 right now. Please join us!
[19:01:25]<dmitrig01>lol
[19:01:29]<dmitrig01>so let's go on
[19:01:41]<jGirlyGirl>yey :)
[19:01:54]<Senpai>jGirlyGirl: yeah, I'm with you on that
[19:02:15]<jGirlyGirl>This is the best part for me :)
[19:03:05]<Davea1>sound?
[19:03:05]<Druplicon> Listen to http://webavant.com/dojo1/sound.htm
[19:03:21]<NikLP>Davea1: teamspeak
[19:03:23]<Senpai>Davea1: That's not true today.
[19:03:35]<Senpai>Davea1: You'll need to sign into teamspeak
[19:03:39]<Senpai>teamspeak?
[19:03:39]<Druplicon>Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
[19:03:55]<Senpai>Davea1: That streaming thing only works when webavant is here.
[19:04:31]<Davea1>ok
[19:05:23]<Senpai>dmitrig01: Slow down your movements just a little. The VNCcast is lagging behind ya.
[19:06:16]<Davea1>name/password wrong on ts
[19:06:22]<Davea1>I left pw blank
[19:06:51]<Senpai>Davea1: pick a nickname, but don't use a username or passwd
[19:06:57]<NikLP>Davea1: check the anonymous checkbox also
[19:07:06]<Davea1>tried all of those
[19:07:57]<Senpai>Yeah, add a description
[19:09:31]<jGirlyGirl>very cool :)
[19:09:33]<dmitrig01>questions?
[19:09:34]<Senpai>It's so much easier!
[19:09:45]<datagroove>no
[19:09:47]<pagaille>is theme table new in 6?
[19:09:51]<dmitrig01>no
[19:09:51]<Senpai>Davea1: How's your luck with teamspeak?
[19:09:55]<Davea1>I am in
[19:09:58]<Senpai>good.
[19:10:01]<dmitrig01>the theming is the same in drupal 5
[19:10:04]<pagaille>thx
[19:10:06]<Senpai>pagaille: no, it;s not
[19:10:06]<Davea1>it helps to assign the correct port ;)
[19:10:14]<NikLP>Davea1: dufus! :p
[19:10:23]<Senpai>pagaille: but D6 has *more* options in it's arguments.
[19:10:31]<pagaille>groovy
[19:10:32]<Davea1>I am used to the default 8767
[19:10:52]<NikLP>grr
[19:11:01]<dmitrig01>ok, anything else I should mention before I close up?
[19:11:19]<NikLP>run thru the differences between 5 and 6 maybe?
[19:11:25]<dmitrig01>I just did :D
[19:11:30]<Senpai>pagaille: there's a theme('table'), a theme('link'), and a theme('image') that you should look up and become familiar with.
[19:11:30]<NikLP>heh synopsis :p
[19:12:21]<Senpai>cool font size
[19:12:30]<jGirlyGirl>How are you posting pasties from TextMate? That's pretty cool.
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[19:12:58]<Senpai>Welcome to the dojo, chx. We're having a live lesson in http://webavant.com/dojo1 right now. Please join us!
[19:13:00]<Senpai>jGirlyGirl: There's a keyboard shortcut
[19:13:01]<NikLP>yo gusaus just in time to miss the lesson :p
[19:13:19]<jGirlyGirl>Senpai: Interesting... :) Thanks!
[19:13:25]<NikLP>cool :)
[19:13:38]<pagaille>thx dmitri
[19:13:40]<Senpai>jGirlyGirl: Do you have TextMate?
[19:13:41]<jGirlyGirl>Thank you Dmitri! That was a great lesson.
[19:13:42]<trevortwining>dmitrig01: you did a great job today, thanks!
[19:13:49]<jGirlyGirl>Senpai: Yep
[19:13:53]<teknos>thanks dmitri
[19:13:55]<dmitrig01>np
[19:13:57]<datagroove>thanks..
[19:14:03]<plord_>thanks
[19:14:04]<wichitard>thanks
[19:14:15]<pagaille>are we landing :-)
[19:14:26]<datagroove>maybe ina future form dojo lesson someone can go over the basic concepts of using a wizard type form, one that dynamicly creates its self based on user input
[19:14:31]<teknos>dmitrig01: could you paste those links in here?
[19:14:34]<Senpai>jGirlyGirl: Highlight some text, then hit Option + Control + Shift + V
[19:14:36]<dmitrig01>sure
[19:14:38]<NikLP>Senpai: yeah make with the pilot yakkety yak yak :)
[19:14:48]<dmitrig01>http://pastie.textmate.org/126258
[19:14:49]<dmitrig01>http://api.drupal.org/api/file/developer/topics/forms_api_reference.html
[19:14:49]<dmitrig01>http://api.drupal.org/api/file/developer/topics/forms_api.html
[19:14:49]<dmitrig01>http://api.drupal.org/api/group/form/6
[19:14:56]<teknos>thanks so much!
[19:15:03]<Senpai>dmitrig01: First link failed
[19:15:03]<dmitrig01>datagroove: next week if we don't have a teacher I'll teah about wizards in drupal 6
[19:15:11]<jGirlyGirl>Senpaid: OMG! That's awesome
[19:15:16]<jGirlyGirl>Senpai... sorry
[19:15:21]<sutha>dmitrig01: thanks
[19:15:24]<dmitrig01>Senpai: whoopsies
[19:15:30]<jGirlyGirl>lol
[19:15:31]<datagroove>dmitrig01: sounds great
[19:15:33]<dmitrig01>here
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[19:15:39]<dmitrig01>http://pastie.textmate.org/126259
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[19:17:19]<Davea1>anyone know where the list of all the hooks lives?
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[19:17:30]<dmitrig01>Davea1: somewhere at api.drupal.org
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[19:17:35]<Davea1>hehe
[19:17:39]<Davea1>thanks for the vid dmitrig01
[19:17:47]<dmitrig01>thanks for watching :D
[19:18:09]<dmitrig01>Senpai: pm?
[19:18:15]<Senpai>dmitrig01: yeah.
[19:18:16]<Davea1>http://api.drupal.org/api/group/hooks/5
[19:18:16]<gusaus>lesson came and went?
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[19:21:29]* Senpai has changed the topic to This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers! Sign up at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo | http://drupaldojo.com is our site. | Remember, THIS CHANNEL IS LOGGED.
[19:22:14]<NikLP>gusaus: yeah you're way too slow :)
[19:22:47]* dmitrig01 has changed the topic to THIS CHANNEL IS LOGGED | We're always looking for teachers! Sign up at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo | http://drupaldojo.com is our site.
[19:23:06]<gusaus>this is true
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[19:23:59]<gusaus>plane left early though, huh?
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[19:24:35]<NikLP>hm?
[19:25:12]<gusaus>lesson started early?
[19:25:28]<guardian>what can explain that: i set garland as the admin theme, i go to build/modules and disable a module (whatever it is) then save --> it refreshes the page but displays it with my custom theme which is not ready for admin yet
[19:25:31]<NikLP>at 6.20
[19:25:40]<guardian>then if i refresh the page myself, it switches back to garland
[19:26:09]<guardian>sorry, was for support :(
[19:26:13]<guardian>wrong window
[19:27:37]<Senpai>mpare, you still around?
[19:27:43]<mpare>yup
[19:27:52]<Senpai>dmitrig01: Wanna encode it yourself?
[19:28:00]<dmitrig01>Senpai: encoding right now
[19:28:07]<Senpai>mpare: What's the proper settings for an encoded vid?
[19:28:08]<dmitrig01>Senpai: I need to edit a bunch of stuff
[19:28:16]<Senpai>dmitrig01: oh, ok.
[19:28:41]<mpare>Senpai: http://groups.drupal.org/node/2424
[19:28:43]<Druplicon>http://groups.drupal.org/node/2424 => Tips and Encoding Settings for Long Duration Screencasts => 17 IRC mentions
[19:28:50]<Senpai>mpare: Thanks!
[19:28:57]<mpare>np
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[19:34:45]<gusaus>where are the transcripts being logged for this room?
[19:34:54]<dmitrig01>disobey.com
[19:36:10]<gusaus>ah - i didn't realize they were back up there
[19:38:09]<gusaus>very good to know
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[19:38:32]<add1sun>Senpai, i got a pic fer ya
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[19:38:47]<add1sun>i put one up on me blog
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[19:46:50]<NikLP>add1sun: gone a bit cock-er-ney have we luv? :)
[19:47:18]<NikLP>where's the blog? flowerspoopconrflakes.com or something isn't it? :p
[19:47:30]<NikLP>damn this wine...
[19:49:44]<add1sun>NikLP, dude you should totally get that domain name ;)
[19:49:51]<add1sun>hahah
[19:49:54]<add1sun>it is rocktreesky
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[19:54:43]<jGirlyGirl>Hi add1sun :)
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[19:54:54]<add1sun>heya jGirlyGirl :)
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[19:54:59]<jGirlyGirl>Nice do!
[19:55:04]<add1sun>haha, thanks
[19:55:13]<add1sun>i have no love for the long hair
[19:55:19]<jGirlyGirl>How was it before? really long?
[19:55:41]<add1sun>yeah pretty damned long - halfway down my back
[19:55:45]<jGirlyGirl>Mine is bad right now... It's almost reaching my butt...
[19:55:51]<jGirlyGirl>lol
[19:55:56]<add1sun>man, see that makes me nuts ;)
[19:56:15]<jGirlyGirl>Yeah... I'm just too lazy to get it cut. haha
[19:56:32]<add1sun>yeah i hear that, i'll need regular cuts now
[19:56:58]<jGirlyGirl>Yeah, that's a pain... It's probably gonna grow really fast.
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[19:57:09]<jGirlyGirl>Looks cool though!
[19:57:13]<add1sun>thanks!
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[19:58:18]<dmitrig01>just... 25 minutes until the vid gets loaded into imovie
[19:59:56]<gusaus|lurk>whoa - that's not the same add1sun that i met in sunnyvale
[20:00:21]<add1sun>haha, pretty different huh?
[20:00:32]<add1sun>funny how hair can change your look so dramatically
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[20:01:00]<gusaus|lurk>yeah - well.. you were wearing glasses also... i think?
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[20:01:16]<add1sun>oh right, yeah i don't wear them at the computer
[20:01:28]<add1sun>only when i need to see long distances
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[20:02:54]<webavant>uh oh.. I just realized the web player thing probably wasn't working for this dojo... sorry bout that
[20:03:09]<webavant>dmitrig01: ?
[20:03:20]<dmitrig01>webavant: dunno
[20:03:38]<NikLP>webavant: I tried pinging you dude :)
[20:03:50]<NikLP>add1sun: wow we now share pretty much the same hairstyle :p
[20:03:56]<webavant>dmitrig01: weren't you presenting today?
[20:04:00]<dmitrig01>webavant: yes
[20:04:04]<NikLP>cept mine is a bit longer due to similar laziness
[20:04:18]<gusaus|lurk>so, what's the new and improved teaching system going to be for dojo2.0?
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[20:05:27]<dmitrig01>gusaus: funny, I was just about to start talking about that
[20:05:30]<dmitrig01>to you
[20:05:46]<webavant>you mean as far as technology?
[20:06:06]<gusaus>dmitrig01: yeah - i want to be fully on making this happen
[20:06:25]<dmitrig01>gusaus: I think that the dojo should turn partially into a social-network type
[20:06:33]<dmitrig01>gusaus: right now it's a one-sided thing
[20:06:40]<dmitrig01>we put screencasts out, other people watch them
[20:06:44]<dmitrig01>the end.
[20:06:45]<dmitrig01>period
[20:06:47]<dmitrig01>that's it
[20:06:54]<dmitrig01>and, that's not good!
[20:07:40]<dmitrig01>but I'd like to turn it around
[20:07:54]<gusaus>think it's been agreed that it can be much more - just been difficult for folks to make the time
[20:08:00]<dmitrig01>not only are the pros putting out screenies and the newbies watching them
[20:08:06]<dmitrig01>but the newbs are talking to the pros
[20:08:08]<dmitrig01>suggesting
[20:08:09]<dmitrig01>asking
[20:08:24]<dmitrig01>and I don't want the asking to turn in to a forum wasteland, like drupal.org is right now
[20:08:34]<dmitrig01>some good thinker has to think of a better workflow
[20:08:42]<gusaus>we had a very active convo about these issues w/ amazon the other night - http://www.disobey.com/bot/log/drupal-dojo/2007-12-06
[20:09:15]<dmitrig01>cool
[20:09:48]<gusaus>i've been trying to summarize that and related discussions here - http://groups.drupal.org/node/7228
[20:09:49]<Druplicon>http://groups.drupal.org/node/7228 => Drupal Dojo 2.0 resource board => 12 IRC mentions
[20:09:54]<webavant>dmitrig01: so did your presentation go well? I'm sorry I missed it...
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[20:10:01]<dmitrig01>it went very well
[20:10:15]<webavant>ok good
[20:10:18]<webavant>everyone just logged into teamspeak to hear?
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[20:10:57]<dmitrig01>yes
[20:11:03]<dmitrig01>gusaus: number one
[20:11:10]<dmitrig01>gusaus: let's start a coffetalk next week
[20:11:20]<dmitrig01>gusaus: and find two note-takers
[20:11:25]* dmitrig01 volunteers to be one
[20:12:14]<gusaus>we need to spec out dojo2.0 just like you would any other project
[20:12:49]<dmitrig01>yes
[20:12:51]<dmitrig01>that would help
[20:13:21]<dmitrig01>gusaus: also
[20:13:29]<dmitrig01>gusaus: I have several modules I'm working on
[20:13:36]<gusaus>coffeetalk is a good way to involve the whole group - get people on board - figure out ways to contribute (and reward the active contributers)
[20:13:44]<webavant>I just replaced the web audio player with a different Flash one...
[20:13:56]<webavant>the old java one was quirky on Macs...
[20:13:56]<dmitrig01>gusaus: in my current status, I have approx. no money cause I don't need any
[20:14:22]<dmitrig01>gusaus: however, I'd be willing to release several modules that I have un-released, for a bounty that would go towards the dojo
[20:14:23]<gusaus>dmitrig01: lucky you
[20:14:34]<dmitrig01>gusaus: I have a super module builder for drupal 6
[20:14:45]<dmitrig01>it has AHAH magic and stuffss
[20:14:59]* gusaus has no money and that's really what's going to buy him time
[20:15:01]<webavant>I like that philosophy... no material attachments
[20:15:35]<dmitrig01>if we can come up with a good price, someone can start a chipin and when the chipin gets full, I release the module and the dojo gets money
[20:15:57]<ben-agaric>dmitrig01: cool
[20:16:07]<gusaus>dmitrig01: the funding issue was a big topic of convo the other night
[20:16:51]<webavant>I don't think we need money for it... you guys could code this blindfolded ... I'm willing to demonstrate how VNCreflect and Icecast work to anyone who needs some tips...
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[20:17:38]<dmitrig01>I'll create screenies
[20:17:41]<dmitrig01>for money
[20:17:44]<dmitrig01>that goes to the dojo
[20:17:46]<webavant>oh that...
[20:17:57]<gusaus>from what i can gauge (and the convos I've had), there are folks that will be able to support helping raise the bar/add value to the dojo
[20:18:37]<dmitrig01><gusaus> there's over 1000 people in this group and the activity has been on a downward spiral
[20:18:39]<webavant>anyone mind testing the sound app to see if it's buggy/laggy?
[20:18:41]<dmitrig01>that sums it up 100%
[20:18:50]<webavant>http://www.webavant.com/dojo1/sound.htm
[20:19:20]<dmitrig01>gusaus: quick pm?
[20:19:26]<NikLP>Senpai: you here?
[20:19:30]<gusaus>it takes a lot of time to consistently be on top of this very ambitious project
[20:19:35]<gusaus>dmitrig01: sure
[20:20:05]<NikLP>Senpai: nvm
[20:21:07]<webavant>does it sound ok?
[20:22:39]<webavant>should there be an A. record on the dojo DNS pointing to webavant just to make it look more seamless?
[20:22:44]<webavant>like live.drupaldojo.com?
[20:22:54]<webavant>that way people aren't like wtf? webavant?
[20:23:19]<dmitrig01>good idea
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[20:23:51]<webavant>point it to 74.208.46.152
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[20:25:14]<webavant>ok bye for now guys
[20:25:23]<dmitrig01>bye
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[20:41:46]<dmitrig01>my imovie vid is taking up 1/2 of my disk
[20:42:30]<NikLP>oopsy
[20:42:34]<dmitrig01>anyone here who can encode movies?
[20:42:39]<dmitrig01>I have 9 gb :(
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[20:56:16]<dmitrig01>http://drupaldojo.org/live-lessons <-- opinions?
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[21:01:01]<gusaus>dmitrig01: i have a few related outlines in progress here - http://learning.pepperalleyproductions.com/278
[21:02:55]<gusaus>dmitrig01: maybe some ideas here - http://learning.pepperalleyproductions.com/176
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[21:07:49]* gusaus thinks thinks this provides a lot of inspiration for dojo type activities (and proecess) - http://groups.drupal.org/node/7362
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[21:18:14]<dmitrig01>Senpai: gusaus|lurk: http://drupaldojo.org/live-lessons
[21:18:16]<dmitrig01>I'm out
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[21:56:14]<NikLP>gusaus|lurk: ping?
[21:58:35]<guardian>Senpai: did you try simplemenu ? i'm using it since today and i find it really cool actually
[21:59:31]<guardian>anyone knows this ? http://drupal.org/project/partial
[21:59:34]<guardian>looks very obscure to me
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[22:09:01]<guardian>EclipseGc: i did not finish my gallery
[22:09:07]<guardian>i did not want to use the image module
[22:09:20]<EclipseGc>guardian: I've used image module a TON
[22:09:35]<guardian>so far, i have visiting the "gallery" paths shows a summary view
[22:09:53]<guardian>images are grouped into galleries using taxonomy
[22:09:54]<EclipseGc>I'm not a big image_gallery fan, but I got it and views working together, and that's acceptable
[22:09:58]<guardian>but my summary view is not themed
[22:10:07]<guardian>thus it just displays a list of links
[22:10:14]<EclipseGc>guardian: I hear ya
[22:10:19]<guardian>i need to change that so that it takes an image from the gallery it points to
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[22:10:34]<guardian>then it's finished i guess
[22:10:41]<EclipseGc>guardian: did you do it with image_field?
[22:10:46]<guardian>yes
[22:10:49]<guardian>and imagecache
[22:11:00]<guardian>i created a cck "image" content type with image field
[22:11:13]<EclipseGc>ok, well I'm, not a big image_field fan, but that's just cause I don't like depending on imagecache, and there aren't as many options
[22:11:15]<guardian>also, at some point, i submitted a patch to the image module so that it integrates with imagecache
[22:11:31]<EclipseGc>guardian: you can do that manually through the template.php
[22:11:33]<guardian>but it was never applied
[22:12:09]<guardian>i need to learn more about views
[22:12:26]<guardian>because all i want to achieve i'm not able to do it just through clicking views ui
[22:12:43]<EclipseGc>guardian: views is phenomenal, my newest video will teach you a bit
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[22:12:58]<EclipseGc>args and such
[22:12:59]<guardian>like: for my blog "section" i would like a list of titles for the current month only and then an archive for month -1 and before
[22:13:05]<guardian>i guess i need to have 2 block views
[22:13:14]<guardian>but then i need to learn how to filter them
[22:13:33]<guardian>so that the first block only displays the titles for the current month, and the monthly archive starts at month - 1
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[22:14:07]<guardian>also i just mentioned it on #drupal, i started reading http://drupal.org/node/54455
[22:14:07]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/54455 => Views Arguments => 19 IRC mentions
[22:14:21]<guardian>the example given paragraph shows off a "day" argument
[22:14:31]<guardian>which does not exist in views in fact :)
[22:14:33]<EclipseGc>guardian: are you working with date api?
[22:14:41]<EclipseGc>cause I'm pretty sure date api is what adds that
[22:14:42]<guardian>no i did not install the date module
[22:14:45]<guardian>should i ?
[22:15:09]<guardian>it seems to be a bit a pity to have month, year, week but not day by default though
[22:15:15]<EclipseGc>yeah, I've been toying with the idea of views constrained by time frame, and I'm pretty sure date api adds all that in, I've not had to do it yet, so you'll be in new territory
[22:15:29]<EclipseGc>day's in date.module
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[22:18:53]<EclipseGc>guardian: perhaps I should play with it and do another dd presentation
[22:18:54]<EclipseGc>heh
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[22:19:00]<guardian>:)
[22:19:08]* EclipseGc loves teaching
[22:20:53]<dmitrig01|idle>EclipseGc: next two weeks are booked
[22:21:20]<EclipseGc>dmitrig01|idle: so am I :-)
[22:21:21]<EclipseGc>haha
[22:21:24]<dmitrig01|idle>haha
[22:21:32]<EclipseGc>I missed todays, I'm sorry I missed it
[22:21:36]<EclipseGc>is there a video?
[22:21:43]<dmitrig01|idle>will be
[22:21:46]<dmitrig01|idle>still need to encode
[22:21:48]<dmitrig01|idle>it's 9gb
[22:21:52]<EclipseGc>geez!
[22:21:58]<EclipseGc>how long was it?
[22:22:06]<dmitrig01|idle>30 min
[22:22:15]<dmitrig01|idle>horrible codec\
[22:22:32]<EclipseGc>dmitrig01|idle: wow, my lesson last week was 17 min, and it was only like... 170 mg or something before transcoding
[22:22:50]<EclipseGc>which got it down to like... 20 something mb
[22:23:16]<dmitrig01|idle>lo
[22:23:18]<dmitrig01|idle>l
[22:23:48]<EclipseGc>well I think my design work has hit it's limit for today, probably put finishing touches on it tomorrow morning
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[22:25:51]<dmitrig01|idle>idle again
[22:26:11]<EclipseGc>sure you are
[22:26:14]<EclipseGc>:-)
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[23:11:16]<guardian>EclipseGc: i patched views, we'll see if merlin finds it useful or not :)
[23:11:28]<EclipseGc>what'd you patch it to do?
[23:11:33]<guardian>day of month
[23:11:38]<guardian>without date module
[23:11:44]<EclipseGc>o.O nice
[23:11:49]<guardian>as an exercise :)
[23:12:13]<guardian>there is just one thing i could not achieve: replace the number of the day by a a string
[23:12:18]<guardian>because it depends on the whole date
[23:12:22]<guardian>and i don't have that in the handler
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[23:12:51]<EclipseGc>hmmm, well if the functionality looks good, I'm sure it'll make it in :-)
[23:13:00]<EclipseGc>did you do it against views? or views2?
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[23:13:25]<guardian>views, 5.x-1.6
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[23:13:44]<guardian>but it straightforward, it's mostly copy/paste from other handlers: like month or week
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