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[04:32:54]<Senpai>seen add1sun's short hair?
[04:33:15]<Senpai>Hmmm, the bot knoweth not that turn of phrase.
[04:34:42]* Senpai has changed the topic to This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers! Sign up at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo | http://drupaldojo.com/
[04:34:53]<Senpai>lesson?
[04:34:53]<Druplicon>We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
[04:35:13]<Senpai>Druplicon: no lesson is <reply>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
[04:35:13]<Druplicon>Senpai: Okay.
[04:35:18]<Senpai>teacher?
[04:35:22]<Senpai>sensei?
[04:35:31]<Senpai>teamspeak?
[04:35:31]<Druplicon>Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
[04:35:41]<Senpai>irc?
[04:35:41]<Druplicon>irc is http://drupal.org/node/108355 . This link contains an explanation of the various drupal irc channels and their correct uses.
[04:35:53]<Senpai>oops, wrong acronym....
[04:35:55]<Senpai>vnc?
[04:35:55]<Druplicon>To watch and listen to the live lesson using your web browser, visit http://webavant.com/dojo1 or for direct access with a VNC client use webavant.com:6001 as the server name.
[04:38:00]<Senpai>Druplicon: no vnc is <reply>To watch *and listen* to the live lesson using only your web browser, visit http://webavant.com/dojo1 | For direct access with a VNC client use webavant.com:6001 as the server name, and get your audio through TeamSpeak. Type 'teamspeak' in the channel for audio help.
[04:38:00]<Druplicon>Senpai: Okay.
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[14:26:06]<mpare>lesson?
[14:26:06]<Druplicon>This week in the dojo, Dmitrig01 will teach a Basics Of FormAPI 3. Join us at http://webavant.com/dojo1 by 6:00pm UTC to participate. | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node.
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[15:38:42]<Patchak>jredding, hey there
[15:38:54]<Patchak>what's up.. you never send me your mail finally
[15:38:57]<jredding>hey..
[15:39:00]<jredding>patchak: ya sorry.
[15:39:07]<jredding>things got really crazy here in Beijing
[15:39:14]<jredding>since we talked last I've moved to 2 different places.
[15:39:18]<jredding>and I'm still house hunting
[15:39:28]<Patchak>really wow
[15:39:42]<jredding>currently staying in a hotel b/c one apartmentdeal turned out to be bad..
[15:39:44]<Patchak>it's so difficult to find a room there?
[15:39:48]<Patchak>ok...
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[15:39:53]<jredding>well we're being picky..
[15:39:55]<Patchak>my god
[15:39:57]<Patchak>ok I see
[15:40:04]<Patchak>you're there with the gf?
[15:40:08]<Patchak>what does she do?
[15:40:19]<jredding>so.. I just didn't want to get into long discussion over a site that I couldn't really put any time and effort into b/c of the living situation.
[15:40:23]<jredding>I need to be a bit more stable..
[15:40:32]<jredding>I thought thing we're going a different way ;)
[15:40:37]<jredding>at least I hoped they would be.
[15:40:44]<jredding>we're both over here studying the language.
[15:40:47]<jredding>but she writes.
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[15:40:54]<jredding>for newspapers and magazines n' such.
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[15:43:19]<Patchak>jredding, yeah I understand, just let me know when you're more stable
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[15:43:32]<Patchak>I'm looking forward to translate my sites in chinese as well
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[15:54:48]<drupalino>can not see the mov files with vlc player
[15:54:56]<drupalino>on linux
[15:56:42]<guardian>what distribution are you using
[15:56:58]<drupalino>ubuntu
[15:57:49]<drupalino>can only see on browser
[15:58:11]<guardian>try installing codecs: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/codecs.html
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[15:59:57]<drupalino>wow cool i am using gpl os and gpl cms and now i can not see any open source videos...
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[16:00:59]<datagroove>at the moment http://webavant.com/dojo1/vnc.htm is showing all black on firefox 2 in os x
[16:01:22]<drupalino>realy clever...
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[16:01:27]<guardian>datagroove: sure, the lesson starts later
[16:01:30]<dmitrig01>morning dojoers
[16:01:34]<datagroove>ah
[16:01:37]<dmitrig01>lesson starts in 3 hours
[16:01:50]<NikLP>dmitrig01: can't we do it now? :)
[16:01:57]* NikLP craves knowledge
[16:01:58]<dmitrig01>NikLP: I'm not ready
[16:02:06]<NikLP>I'm kidding of course! :p
[16:02:24]<NikLP>dmitrig01: looking forward to it tho! :)
[16:02:30]<dmitrig01>NikLP: coo
[16:02:52]<NikLP>will this be similar to Josh_k's previous form api thing?
[16:03:01]<NikLP>I'm thinking he did one about a year ago?
[16:03:13]<NikLP>or is this a mini lesson...? :)
[16:03:41]<dmitrig01>kind of both
[16:03:51]<dmitrig01>I'm going to try to keep it under 1 hour
[16:03:58]<dmitrig01>because lessons are better that way
[16:04:10]<datagroove>this from the drupaldojo.com site thru me off "Lesson 37: Basics of Form API 3 in 30 minutes or less"
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[16:05:33]<drupalino>guardian, why dojo do not use ogg?
[16:05:47]<guardian>i don't know ...
[16:06:16]<drupalino>why dojo do not use ogg?
[16:06:45]<mpare>haha
[16:07:31]<drupalino>mpare: what ha ha?
[16:07:39]<mpare>oops wrong window
[16:08:35]<drupalino>download of all gstream and just dont play .mov files
[16:08:42]<dmitrig01>http://blip.tv/file/529950 <-- good video
[16:09:43]<drupalino>guardian can you transform a .mov file to .ogg?
[16:10:00]<guardian>try mencoder
[16:10:49]<drupalino>http://drupaldojo.com/lesson/jquery-resurrected
[16:10:53]<drupalino>this video
[16:12:25]<dmitrig01>http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/05/internet-explorer-8.aspx <-- lol
[16:13:38]<guardian>geez
[16:13:41]<guardian>and those guys are paid
[16:13:42]<guardian>;)
[16:15:34]<drupalino>mencoder: can you transform a .mov file to ogg?
[16:15:37]<NikLP>god I hate them so much
[16:15:46]<NikLP>why don't they just admit defeat and give up?
[16:15:48]<NikLP>bastards!
[16:17:24]<drupalino>.mov sucks
[16:21:22]<drupalino>7 2w4zFEAwwww29£
[16:22:04]<dmitrig01>NikLP: let's test audio
[16:22:49]<NikLP>ooer
[16:22:59]<NikLP>dmitrig01: how are we doing this these days?
[16:23:02]<NikLP>browser still?
[16:23:04]<dmitrig01>NikLP: teamspeak
[16:23:08]<NikLP>aaaaagh
[16:23:11]<NikLP>don't have it
[16:23:15]<dmitrig01>well the web page works
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[16:23:33]<NikLP>thought we'd sorted it so that webavant's server was handling everrything...?
[16:23:41]<dmitrig01>yes
[16:23:46]<dmitrig01>webavants server hosts teamspeak
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[16:23:49]<dmitrig01>you can go to the web page
[16:23:52]<dmitrig01>tell me when your trhere
[16:23:58]<dmitrig01>er. no
[16:24:01]<dmitrig01>the webpage won't work
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[16:24:31]<NikLP>heh
[16:24:59]<NikLP>teamspeak I installed once, and it just looked awful, I couldn't understand what was going on at all...
[16:25:22]<dmitrig01>teamspeak?
[16:25:22]<Druplicon>Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
[16:25:26]<dmitrig01>install it again :D
[16:25:33]<NikLP>damn your eyes! :p
[16:25:37]<mpare>dmitrig01 lmao I love all those ie names
[16:26:35]<NikLP>they could call it "IE Viiile" :)
[16:28:43]<NikLP>dmitrig01: wtf is all this config garbage in this app?!
[16:28:53]<dmitrig01>NikLP: dunno
[16:29:00]<NikLP>yuk
[16:29:05]<dmitrig01>click this link
[16:29:13]<dmitrig01>teamspeak://webavant:8768
[16:29:48]<NikLP>yeah where the hell do I put the url? or does it trap from the browser?
[16:30:02]<NikLP>no inputs for anything useful on the client...
[16:30:38]<NikLP>nvm :p
[16:31:03]<NikLP>dmitrig01: [16:30:24] Connecting to webavant:8768 that's it
[16:31:23]<dmitrig01>lol
[16:31:25]<dmitrig01>go to that GDO page
[16:31:30]<dmitrig01> http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944
[16:31:32]<Druplicon>http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944 => Lesson #20 - Adobe Flex within Drupal => 19 IRC mentions
[16:31:36]<NikLP>this is why I uninstalled it, POS
[16:31:59]<dmitrig01>To connect manually on windows, click Connection -> connect from the menu, and make your settings match this image, filling in your own nickname where appropriate.
[16:32:07]<dmitrig01>http://groups.drupal.org/files/instructional.jpg
[16:32:08]<dmitrig01>this image
[16:32:33]<NikLP>Our reasoning was thus:
[16:32:46]<NikLP>"simple to connect"
[16:32:50]* NikLP mumbles
[16:33:28]<dmitrig01>NikLP: I don't really care about your reason. Teamspeak is not my first choice, but that's what we use
[16:33:48]<NikLP>no, that's from the lesson #20 page!
[16:34:03]<NikLP>anyway let's not snap :p
[16:35:20]<NikLP>dmitrig01: ping :)
[16:35:24]<dmitrig01>pong
[16:35:31]<NikLP>I'm in
[16:36:35]<dmitrig01>tell me if you hear
[16:36:47]<NikLP>I heard SOMETHING :)
[16:36:52]<dmitrig01>do you hear a voice
[16:37:00]<NikLP>yeah
[16:37:09]<NikLP>not yours tho I'll warrant :)
[16:37:12]<NikLP>yes
[16:37:15]<dmitrig01>that'd be mine :D
[16:37:17]<NikLP>I can't speak I take it :)
[16:37:21]<dmitrig01>nope
[16:37:25]<NikLP>ah ok
[16:37:47]<NikLP>yeah sure
[16:37:59]<dmitrig01>ok, good, glad it works
[16:38:01]<dmitrig01>now let's test VNC
[16:38:32]<NikLP>okidoke :)
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[16:41:00]<dmitrig01>NikLP: Check VNC
[16:41:07]<mpare>looks good
[16:41:09]<NikLP>link?
[16:41:09]<Druplicon>link: http://php.net/link
[16:41:13]<NikLP>doh
[16:41:16]<dmitrig01>webavant.com/dojo1
[16:41:28]<mpare>pig latin
[16:41:33]<dmitrig01>very good!
[16:41:43]<dmitrig01>ok, everythings working
[16:41:46]<dmitrig01>now I need to prepare
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[16:42:20]<NikLP>yup looked ok to me
[16:45:02]<Senpai>Mornin.
[16:45:11]<dmitrig01>mornin
[16:46:35]<NikLP>Senpai: hola Meesta
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[16:48:10]* Senpai was just reading through the history here, when the Snak client went toes-up
[16:48:53]<Senpai>The just of it was, we need to switch to the Ogg encoder, or our children's children will walk the earth in aimless torment forever and ever?
[16:49:07]<Senpai>How
[16:49:12]<Senpai>bout this?
[16:49:16]<guardian>in fact
[16:49:22]<guardian>we're all waiting for mencoder to join
[16:49:22]<Senpai>How about we switch to Flash movies!
[16:49:24]<guardian>and convert the videos
[16:49:27]<Senpai>There, I've said it.
[16:49:46]<Senpai>Actually, I'm not really joking about this one.
[16:50:20]<Senpai>I,ve been doing some more reading on the VNC-2-SWF freeware.
[16:50:28]<guardian>i am just still amused by
[16:50:30]<Senpai>It runs on a server, can act autonomously
[16:50:31]<NikLP>well if it can end up on Blip should it be a problem what the video is?
[16:50:33]<guardian>drupalino: guardian can you transform a .mov file to .ogg?
[16:50:33]<guardian>[5:10pm] guardian: try mencoder
[16:50:46]<guardian>drupalino: mencoder: can you transform a .mov file to ogg?
[16:50:48]<guardian>:)
[16:52:10]<Senpai>and could actually be broadcasting a "Coming soon, Dmitrig01's lesson! Only 2:00 hours to go..." message in the screencast right now, rather than a boring old black screen.
[17:00:26]<dmitrig01>Senpai: I just got a 11cd box set of chopin
[17:01:01]<Senpai>dmitrig01: I fully expect to hear the 11th movement for our dojo background tunes then.
[17:01:32]<dmitrig01>Senpai: 11th movement?!
[17:01:47]<dmitrig01>Senpai: ok. do you want impromptus or mazurkas?
[17:02:15]<Senpai>mazurkas? What's... one of those?
[17:02:21]* Senpai googles
[17:02:41]<Senpai>oh wow
[17:02:52]<Senpai>Talk about wierd and cool all at the same time.
[17:03:03]* dmitrig01 says we should go for the impromptus
[17:03:09]<Senpai>yeah.
[17:03:13]<Senpai>I'd have to agree.
[17:03:30]<Senpai>Nobody wants to hear a triple-time polka this early in the morning
[17:04:04]<mpare>aww pretty music
[17:04:06]<dmitrig01>Senpai: get on teamspeak please
[17:04:09]<Senpai>sure
[17:04:16]<Senpai>lemme grap my headset
[17:04:18]<dmitrig01>mpare: those are mazurkas
[17:04:27]<dmitrig01>I bet you've heard this before
[17:04:34]<mpare>Oh I'm certain
[17:04:42]<dmitrig01>this is the most famous one
[17:04:45]<mpare>couldn't of told you who
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[17:04:57]<mpare>but I recognized it
[17:05:19]<Senpai>Tchaikovsky wrote six mazurkas?
[17:05:23]<Senpai>well well!
[17:05:39]<dmitrig01>for the impromptus
[17:05:43]<dmitrig01>this is the one I'm playing
[17:05:49]<dmitrig01>or learning more like
[17:06:38]<Senpai>ok, I'm in TS
[17:06:44]* Senpai listens...
[17:06:50]* dmitrig01 is going to talk, tell me if you hear
[17:06:59]<Senpai>meh. This is slow enough I could prolly play it...
[17:07:05]<Senpai>tee heee!
[17:07:11]<dmitrig01>did you hear me? :D
[17:07:14]<Senpai>nope
[17:07:16]<mpare>nope
[17:07:17]<Senpai>No voice
[17:07:23]<dmitrig01>oh well
[17:07:30]<dmitrig01>we'll add voice once the lesson starts
[17:07:43]<Senpai>dmitrig01: Is it the dreaded Soundflower Dilemma again?
[17:07:47]<dmitrig01>yup
[17:07:51]<Senpai>bitches!
[17:08:20]<Senpai>While we're idling, /me wants feedback on http://drupal.org/node/197957
[17:08:21]<Druplicon>http://drupal.org/node/197957 => This patch modifies the Delete Group behavior (UI) => Organic groups, og.module, minor, patch (code needs work), 1 IRC mention
[17:08:59]<Senpai>I heard a mic just now!
[17:09:03]<Senpai>dmitrig01
[17:09:07]<Senpai>dmitrig01: talk
[17:09:18]* dmitrig01 said hello
[17:09:40]<mpare>dmitrig01 no go
[17:09:45]<dmitrig01>oh well
[17:09:57]<Senpai>miff.
[17:10:19]<dmitrig01>this is the impromptu I'm learning next
[17:10:24]<mpare>hey
[17:10:24]<dmitrig01>I hear
[17:10:43]* dmitrig01 probably has a too-small hand
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