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| [01:19:28] | <beeradb_> | is there 5.x equivalent to the 4.x theme_comment_form? |
| [01:21:51] | <BrianV> | no clue |
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| [01:23:23] | <BrianV> | a quick search hasn't turned anything similar up... let me know if you find something to match theme_comment_form' |
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| [01:53:10] | <NikLP> | anyone ever implemented some sort of booking mechanism? anything at all? |
| [01:53:19] | <NikLP> | looking at perhaps offering something to a restaurant |
| [01:53:30] | <NikLP> | but suspect they might not be that IT literate |
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| [03:05:00] | <gusaus> | BrianV: NikLP this prob. would be the better room than #drupal-consultants to talk about dojo2.0 :P |
| [03:05:30] | <NikLP> | yeah are you on about funding that project? |
| [03:05:35] | <BrianV> | no... very true |
| [03:07:16] | <BrianV> | gusaus: ok, here's where I sit. I am not a designer. But I can help start coding small parts once the plans come together |
| [03:07:29] | <BrianV> | as far as raising funds, is it worth adding a ChipIn.com |
| [03:07:35] | <BrianV> | 'tip jar' to the site |
| [03:07:54] | <add1sun> | the only issue with funds |
| [03:07:58] | <BrianV> | and actively forming a Dojo presence helping in the forums etc. |
| [03:08:01] | <add1sun> | is who "collects" them |
| [03:08:04] | <add1sun> | and how |
| [03:08:25] | <add1sun> | there is no dojo entity |
| [03:08:33] | <add1sun> | that can accept money |
| [03:08:39] | <Michelle> | Can you hook up with the assoc? |
| [03:08:45] | <add1sun> | hah! |
| [03:08:49] | <gusaus> | add1sun: we started brainstorming w/ amazon regarding funding |
| [03:08:49] | <add1sun> | you neat me by a second |
| [03:08:56] | <add1sun> | er beat |
| [03:08:58] | <BrianV> | they would likely hold funds until the dojo needs them |
| [03:09:07] | <BrianV> | although in the first place - where will the funds be used? |
| [03:09:10] | <BrianV> | hosting, of course |
| [03:09:11] | <add1sun> | yeah, if we can hook up with the assoc, that would be ideal |
| [03:09:14] | <BrianV> | but what else? |
| [03:09:28] | <BrianV> | what do we need to pay for that we can't connive to get donated? |
| [03:09:30] | <gusaus> | association could be sort of a conduit |
| [03:09:44] | <add1sun> | well really all we need is elbow grease |
| [03:09:54] | <gusaus> | and funds from dojo2.0 could goto the association |
| [03:09:58] | <add1sun> | but volunteer elbow grease can take a looong time |
| [03:10:07] | <BrianV> | add1sun: lol... very true |
| [03:10:20] | <add1sun> | josh and i haven't done poo for dojo in the last month or so |
| [03:10:28] | <gusaus> | yeah - i think monies will open up some time for indies like myself |
| [03:10:30] | <add1sun> | as much as i want to |
| [03:10:59] | <NikLP> | I have time but not money, so I'm in :p |
| [03:11:17] | <add1sun> | heh, well |
| [03:11:18] | <add1sun> | hm |
| [03:11:25] | <add1sun> | do we have a lesson for this sunday? |
| [03:11:26] | <gusaus> | a lot of the most active originals like addi, josh, senpai, are working for the drupal man |
| [03:11:31] | <BrianV> | as a fundraiser - is it worth putting together a 'Drupal Best Practices' e-book, and selling copies? |
| [03:11:33] | <add1sun> | hahah |
| [03:11:44] | <gusaus> | only so much time you can put in |
| [03:11:49] | <add1sun> | yeah |
| [03:12:02] | <add1sun> | how does a coffetalk sound? |
| [03:12:12] | <add1sun> | we haven't had a dojo talkin in a while |
| [03:12:19] | <add1sun> | the only thing |
| [03:12:26] | <add1sun> | is that with the holidays approaching |
| [03:12:38] | <add1sun> | i dare say folks will be too busy to really kick it |
| [03:12:41] | <add1sun> | til the new year |
| [03:12:50] | <gusaus> | i'm all over it right now |
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| [03:12:56] | <add1sun> | but if we can continnue the planning stuff |
| [03:13:07] | <add1sun> | and get a plan sorted out |
| [03:13:13] | <NikLP> | gusaus: keep me in this loop if you can, I'm heading out in a minute. Will check the messages tomorrow. |
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| [03:13:21] | <add1sun> | then when we hit the new year and (hopefully) time opens for some |
| [03:13:30] | <add1sun> | we'll have something for people to *do* |
| [03:13:33] | <amazon> | Holy Sniikkeys |
| [03:13:41] | <amazon> | This channel is huge |
| [03:13:44] | <add1sun> | heya amazon |
| [03:13:49] | <BrianV> | hi amazon |
| [03:13:56] | <add1sun> | haha, well not very big right now |
| [03:14:16] | <gusaus> | ok - amazon is here |
| [03:14:41] | <gusaus> | so this is the wiki page i threw together - http://groups.drupal.org/node/7228 |
| [03:14:42] | <Druplicon> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/7228 => Drupal Dojo 2.0 resource board => 8 IRC mentions |
| [03:14:48] | <add1sun> | amazon, i am suggesting that the dojo have a coffeetalk about dojo 2.0 |
| [03:15:02] | <add1sun> | coffeetalk is when we do a freeform discussion rather than a lesson |
| [03:15:07] | <gusaus> | prob. a good starting point |
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| [03:15:18] | <gusaus> | should we turn comments on? |
| [03:15:37] | <add1sun> | hm |
| [03:15:54] | <add1sun> | well i guess we should - i'd prefer people update the wiki |
| [03:16:01] | <add1sun> | but many people won't jump that ditch |
| [03:16:08] | <add1sun> | i dunno |
| [03:16:25] | <gusaus> | i'll be keeper of the wiki part - will make sure it's clean |
| [03:16:54] | <gusaus> | and/or open for where we should take the conversation |
| [03:17:37] | <add1sun> | hm |
| [03:17:40] | <BrianV> | on an only vaguely related question - what do you use for wiki functionality? |
| [03:18:11] | <NikLP> | garlicChilliChickenTikkaWikka |
| [03:18:23] | * NikLP burps :p |
| [03:18:23] | <add1sun> | hehe |
| [03:18:34] | <BrianV> | lol |
| [03:19:02] | <gusaus> | i think there are a lot of good bits from older conversations that could be dusted off and continued |
| [03:19:54] | <add1sun> | lesson? |
| [03:19:54] | <Druplicon> | We're always looking for teachers. Volunteer at http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo by creating a Story node. |
| [03:20:21] | <add1sun> | hm, no lesson yet/ |
| [03:21:02] | <add1sun> | amazon, gusaus and BrianV tell me that the association is interested/willing to work with the dojo re: money |
| [03:21:10] | <gusaus> | nah - that's another benefit we can get from working on projects - we can document, create learning materials as we go |
| [03:21:20] | <amazon> | add1sun: well, I think there's money for this |
| [03:21:41] | <add1sun> | amazon, would you be able to attend a coffeetalk? |
| [03:21:55] | <add1sun> | to discuss with the group what that means exactly |
| [03:22:07] | <gusaus> | i also know of a few shops that would are very willing to fund the dojo |
| [03:22:08] | <amazon> | whether it comes through association |
| [03:22:11] | <add1sun> | and how the dojo can help the association and vie versa? |
| [03:22:16] | <BrianV> | add1sun: just clarifying - I have no clue what the association thinks. But I suspect they would be open to the idea |
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| [03:23:02] | <amazon> | well let's talk more broadly than association, what's valuable and worth getting funded |
| [03:23:07] | <amazon> | and in particular |
| [03:23:12] | <add1sun> | ah ok |
| [03:23:14] | <amazon> | What's a standard format for getting it done |
| [03:23:18] | <add1sun> | right |
| [03:23:24] | <amazon> | e.g. could we sell ads |
| [03:23:29] | <add1sun> | that is what i'd like to hash out at a coffeetalk |
| [03:23:32] | <amazon> | at the end of a dojo video |
| [03:23:39] | <BrianV> | [22:11] <BrianV> as a fundraiser - is it worth putting together a 'Drupal Best Practices' e-book, and selling copies? |
| [03:24:12] | <add1sun> | BrianV, i'd rather not focus on more tasks |
| [03:24:20] | <add1sun> | until we get the basic dojo needs taken care of |
| [03:24:27] | <BrianV> | what kind of traffic does the dojo website get? |
| [03:24:34] | <gusaus> | amazon: i'd says yes to relevant ads |
| [03:24:36] | <add1sun> | i have nooo idea |
| [03:24:58] | <BrianV> | perhaps allow shops to 'sponsor' the dojo in return for a link in a sponsors block |
| [03:25:12] | <add1sun> | hm, well that is a topic that has come up before |
| [03:25:24] | <add1sun> | even the current server donation is a little |
| [03:25:32] | <add1sun> | hrm, well it is touchy |
| [03:25:41] | <add1sun> | but something that needs to be discussed |
| [03:26:11] | <gusaus> | add1sun: who are the dojo gatekeepers? |
| [03:26:32] | <add1sun> | haha, well i don't know - other than the dojo community |
| [03:26:43] | <add1sun> | but obviously some people are more involved than others |
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| [03:26:51] | <gusaus> | the problem we've come up with before is that there's no way to appease everybody |
| [03:26:53] | <add1sun> | and in a do-ocracy that means they get say |
| [03:26:57] | <add1sun> | *more |
| [03:27:04] | <add1sun> | gusaus, true |
| [03:27:12] | <add1sun> | and it can't be a real democracy |
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| [03:27:55] | <add1sun> | but we do need to open the discussion and see who is interested in engaging in the discussion |
| [03:27:58] | <amazon> | I definitely think if we can develop a consistent product and format |
| [03:28:02] | <amazon> | we can sell ads |
| [03:28:11] | <add1sun> | and then hash it out in good ole OS fashion |
| [03:28:15] | <gusaus> | we're talking about a ton of time/work to create a great site/learning portal and effective learning materials |
| [03:28:17] | <amazon> | and if you get a sponsor, then there's some focus |
| [03:29:20] | <add1sun> | hm, yes but it still comes back to what happens with the money that makes us consitent |
| [03:29:25] | * gusaus has had not much luck/fun getting into the consulting game - would much rather openly build great tools and solutions for everybody |
| [03:29:29] | <add1sun> | cuz we surely havn't been up to now |
| [03:29:44] | <amazon> | add1sun: I would pay the people who do the dojo's |
| [03:30:01] | <amazon> | just like the rest of the Drupal economy |
| [03:30:22] | <add1sun> | do you mean the teachers or the people taht do the grunt work of getting a lesson on? |
| [03:30:25] | <add1sun> | or both? |
| [03:30:33] | <amazon> | I think both potentially |
| [03:30:43] | <amazon> | but first you have to get a standard |
| [03:30:56] | <amazon> | and create a bit of a level playing field |
| [03:31:17] | <amazon> | e.g. You have to prove to killes you are worthy of a CVS account for contribs |
| [03:31:35] | <amazon> | there's a minimum hurdle to meet |
| [03:31:54] | <amazon> | which is an agreed upon dojo set of guidelines |
| [03:32:12] | <gusaus> | as i was telling amazon i have some people ready to produce learning materials (vidcasts, screencasts, podcasts) - also might be able to dabble into fundraising type evets |
| [03:32:12] | <amazon> | and then see if the economy will pay for some |
| [03:32:42] | <add1sun> | amazon, yes, well that is definitely the direction that dojo 2.0 is going anyway |
| [03:32:54] | <add1sun> | as in a standard way to "do a lesson" |
| [03:33:06] | <add1sun> | and get it out there |
| [03:33:16] | <gusaus> | guess i could link in this wiki page for some ideas - http://wiki.pepperalleyproductions.com/Open_projects_and_collaborative_w... |
| [03:33:20] | <amazon> | gusaus: this page, http://groups.drupal.org/node/7228, is great |
| [03:33:21] | <Druplicon> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/7228 => Drupal Dojo 2.0 resource board => 9 IRC mentions |
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| [03:34:36] | <gusaus> | and add1sun prob. remembers this old site - http://learning.pepperalleyproductions.com/ |
| [03:35:34] | <gusaus> | i was actually playing around with the project module last night - sort of looking how google was assigning tasks and projects |
| [03:35:59] | <add1sun> | heh, the google issue tracker is a PITA ;) |
| [03:36:10] | <gusaus> | yeah |
| [03:36:54] | <gusaus> | the concept of mentor-student would prob. work in the dojo |
| [03:37:09] | <add1sun> | well it is hard to keep up |
| [03:37:33] | <add1sun> | even with a defined task |
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| [03:38:07] | <add1sun> | dojo is a mentor group |
| [03:38:17] | <amazon> | gusaus: can you help me find the requirements for a Drupal dojo |
| [03:38:20] | <add1sun> | but not in the one on one, focused on a task way |
| [03:38:46] | <gusaus> | yes, but i think the missing link has been a project/task focus |
| [03:38:58] | <gusaus> | uhh - like you just said |
| [03:39:51] | <gusaus> | amazon: as far as i know you're looking at what we have - i.e. it's still up in the air |
| [03:40:06] | <add1sun> | hm, we need a coffeetalk - we need to sit down and talk it out with the people who care about this |
| [03:40:33] | <mikejoconnor> | i'm always up for coffee and drupal |
| [03:40:35] | <amazon> | add1sun: I feel like there's lots of meta stuff in the air |
| [03:40:36] | <add1sun> | unfortunately josh, senpai and dmitri are not here |
| [03:40:36] | <NikLP> | isn't that essentially everyone? |
| [03:40:56] | <add1sun> | NikLP, lots of people use dojo but don't actually get dirty |
| [03:41:01] | <amazon> | which is good, but for me to come up to speed, I need a place to dig in and understand what makes up a dojo |
| [03:41:06] | <NikLP> | just call a quick dojo, or frontpage a post or something? |
| [03:41:13] | <add1sun> | there are realtively few that put time in |
| [03:41:18] | * NikLP brushes the crud off his trousers |
| [03:41:36] | <add1sun> | amazon, heh, well it isn't easy to nail down as you can see |
| [03:41:40] | <gusaus> | once again - i think one think the google project have going for 'em is $$ |
| [03:41:48] | <add1sun> | it is classic OS banging around stuff |
| [03:42:09] | <gusaus> | there's over 1000 people in this group and the activity has been on a downward spiral |
| [03:42:49] | <flk> | how do i add inline javascript to a page? |
| [03:42:59] | <flk> | drupal_add_js? |
| [03:42:59] | <Druplicon> | drupal_add_js: Add a JavaScript file, setting or inline code to the page. => drupal_add_js($data = NULL, $type = 'module', $scope = 'header', $defer = FALSE, $cache = TRUE) => http://api.drupal.org/api/function/drupal_add_js/5 |
| [03:43:17] | <flk> | nvm |
| [03:43:22] | <mikejoconnor> | drupal_add_js('your script', 'inline') |
| [03:43:36] | <gusaus> | i think that'll keep happening w/ no fundage 'cuz the top contributors usually are working for drupal shops and/or are chalk full of consulting jobs |
| [03:43:39] | <add1sun> | amazon, really in essence right now it is just a place where people do live, recorded screencasts of stuff they know |
| [03:43:58] | <add1sun> | and there is an IRC channel and group for asking questions and getting help |
| [03:44:05] | <mikejoconnor> | gusaus: the lack of activity could be an indication that people are learning, and are moving beyond the needing a mentor stage |
| [03:44:17] | <add1sun> | that is less "intimidating" than the big, bad larger community |
| [03:45:06] | <gusaus> | mikejoconnor: there has been little to learn from as of late w/ not many people able to teach |
| [03:45:15] | <add1sun> | gusaus, well it is about new folks stepping up - not necessarily money |
| [03:45:46] | <NikLP> | there's plenty of people learning but the gurus are busy |
| [03:45:56] | <NikLP> | hence am I sat at a stage where I'm a bit... stuck :p |
| [03:45:57] | <add1sun> | mikejoconnor, part of it is that really people want to learn the stuff but very few want *or know how* to really help on the other end |
| [03:46:02] | <NikLP> | and not working! :P |
| [03:46:06] | <mikejoconnor> | another issue oculd be that many of the broad topics have been covered |
| [03:46:12] | <flk> | mikejoconnor: thnx |
| [03:46:19] | <gusaus> | hehe - exactly - there are people at all diff levels |
| [03:46:22] | <mikejoconnor> | flk: anytime |
| [03:46:53] | <add1sun> | NikLP, i find teaching always helps me learn faster ;) |
| [03:47:02] | <NikLP> | yeah totally |
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| [03:47:21] | <gusaus> | for me - an open collaboration from start to finish would have huge value for me |
| [03:47:29] | <NikLP> | also having to have something done in order to eat is a great motivator - I'm in a catch 22 right now where I can't pimp because I'm missing skills... |
| [03:48:00] | <gusaus> | and if we're building tools/solutions that have value for the entire ecosystem, that's even better |
| [03:48:01] | <add1sun> | NikLP, whatcha wanna teach |
| [03:48:02] | <add1sun> | ? |
| [03:48:26] | <NikLP> | add1sun: heh well I need to learn to earn right now hun :) |
| [03:48:34] | <NikLP> | then I'll teach whatever |
| [03:48:43] | <add1sun> | NikLP, you already know stuff - share it man |
| [03:48:58] | <add1sun> | there aren't teachers cuz no one volunteers what they know ;) |
| [03:48:59] | * NikLP opens that funny flap on the side of his head |
| [03:49:19] | <add1sun> | we do have folks at every level so even the basics are needed |
| [03:49:31] | <add1sun> | not everything has to be crazy top coder knowledge |
| [03:49:48] | <NikLP> | I kinda like my input here on irc tbh, I help out quite a lot in support |
| [03:49:49] | <flk> | funny how i whenever i come upon a horrible problem i am like i swear someone can benefit in the dojo but i never actually get around writing it down lol |
| [03:49:52] | <add1sun> | same for you gusaus ;) |
| [03:49:53] | <mikejoconnor> | do we have a list of potential topics people are interested in? |
| [03:50:07] | <NikLP> | that would be another good starting point |
| [03:50:21] | <add1sun> | mikejoconnor, i think there is thread on that |
| [03:50:27] | <add1sun> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/2433 |
| [03:50:29] | <Druplicon> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/2433 => Drupal Dojo Lesson Ideas and Interactive workshop wiki => 16 IRC mentions |
| [03:50:30] | <gusaus> | right - so building dojo2.0 as an open collaborative workshop would generate a ton of lesson material |
| [03:50:54] | <flk> | how about a possible run through with the sensies before the lesson to catch errors/correct/better thnigs? |
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| [03:51:04] | <add1sun> | seriously folks, people want to have lessons on how to use certain modules |
| [03:51:17] | <add1sun> | so spend an afternoon playing around and teach it |
| [03:51:22] | <add1sun> | it doesn't have to be 2 ours |
| [03:51:24] | <add1sun> | hours |
| [03:51:28] | <add1sun> | 30 minutes |
| [03:51:30] | <add1sun> | done |
| [03:51:45] | <add1sun> | gusaus, yes, but that is huge and moving slowly |
| [03:51:57] | <add1sun> | we need lessons |
| [03:52:05] | <add1sun> | teach whatcha know |
| [03:52:29] | <add1sun> | ya know what dammit |
| [03:52:34] | <amazon> | add1sun: well I think we have the demand part of the equation down |
| [03:52:46] | <amazon> | I am trying to get my head around fine tuning the supply part |
| [03:52:46] | <Michelle> | What about non live lessons? |
| [03:52:53] | <gusaus> | hehe - i betcha if there was $$ support things would happen a lot faster |
| [03:52:55] | <add1sun> | Michelle, that has been done too |
| [03:53:09] | <add1sun> | gusaus, well a lto happened before and there was no $$ |
| [03:53:10] | <Michelle> | Yeah? I might be willing, then |
| [03:53:29] | <add1sun> | Michelle, yeah, myself and dmitri have doen just videos |
| [03:53:32] | <add1sun> | that weren't live |
| [03:53:36] | <brenda003> | everybody is running out of free time |
| [03:53:37] | <amazon> | add1sun: my guess is the, consulting economy is squezing the dojo economy |
| [03:53:50] | <amazon> | and that's dangerous |
| [03:53:51] | <mikejoconnor> | amazon: I would agree |
| [03:54:07] | <brenda003> | amazon, ahh i was just typing essentially that |
| [03:54:12] | <mikejoconnor> | I haven't watched a lesson in a month or two because I've been too busy |
| [03:54:21] | <brenda003> | if you know drupal enough to teach a lesson you're getting paid work, and probably too much of it :P |
| [03:54:30] | <brenda003> | hard balance |
| [03:54:35] | <gusaus> | Senpai: you know any drupal companies that would support drupal2.0? |
| [03:54:41] | <Michelle> | TBH, a little money would help for me... Wouldn't have to be much at all... Just enough to tell hubby "yes, I'm getting paid for this" since that helps to get him to watch the kids ;) |
| [03:54:47] | <brenda003> | dojo should look for sponsors! |
| [03:54:56] | <mikejoconnor> | have you done anything with splitting up a lesson |
| [03:55:02] | <amazon> | brenda003: well we need to create that branding |
| [03:55:03] | <add1sun> | brenda003, that is part of the discussuon |
| [03:55:13] | <brenda003> | ah, sorry. just came in |
| [03:55:20] | <mikejoconnor> | I know a few parts of a lot of items on that list, but not enough to teach a whole lesson |
| [03:55:38] | <add1sun> | mikejoconnor, that's why i'm saying you can do short lessons |
| [03:55:43] | <add1sun> | or have co-teachers |
| [03:55:50] | <add1sun> | we've had up to three teachers before |
| [03:55:53] | <add1sun> | for one lesson |
| [03:56:15] | <add1sun> | mikejoconnor, you can teach whatever you want |
| [03:56:21] | <gusaus> | yikes - this is very old, but there may be some good bits in here - http://learning.pepperalleyproductions.com/176 |
| [03:56:59] | <gusaus> | http://learning.pepperalleyproductions.com/project-oriented-learning-and... |
| [03:57:43] | <add1sun> | brenda003, part of what were discussing with amazon is that for sponsership there needs to be some sort of guideline for what we have |
| [03:57:54] | <add1sun> | and therefor what is the sponser "getting" |
| [03:57:56] | <Senpai> | gusaus: no, not that I'm aware of. |
| [03:58:12] | <add1sun> | heya Senpai |
| [03:58:16] | <Senpai> | Lots of people talk about it, but nobody can put down oney for it |
| [03:58:20] | <Senpai> | *money |
| [03:58:27] | <add1sun> | so, there has been lots of chatter tonight |
| [03:58:27] | <Senpai> | hiya add1sun! |
| [03:58:29] | <brenda003> | hmm. |
| [03:58:39] | <gusaus> | what about that little company you work for Senpai ? |
| [03:58:40] | * Senpai is just reading history |
| [03:58:55] | <Senpai> | gusaus: They can't do it any more than another company can |
| [03:59:06] | <add1sun> | gusaus, right but what would that company "get"? |
| [03:59:10] | <NikLP> | hey Joel :) |
| [03:59:20] | <Senpai> | all the medium and large dev houses have to train their own people |
| [03:59:25] | <brenda003> | well, how busy is the dojo site? they can get listed on the site at least |
| [03:59:27] | <Senpai> | NikLP! |
| [03:59:33] | <NikLP> | heh :) |
| [03:59:46] | <gusaus> | if we're building products/profiles they'd get that |
| [03:59:50] | <Senpai> | We can't "list" companies on the dojo site and still keep it as a free-for-all |
| [03:59:57] | <NikLP> | totally off topic, but any of you fine people know of an exemplary restaurant website? |
| [03:59:59] | <add1sun> | gusaus, but we *aren't* right now |
| [04:00:03] | <add1sun> | we have nothing to offer |
| [04:00:06] | <gusaus> | new modules, themes, learning materials |
| [04:00:15] | <Senpai> | I mean, what company is gonna put their steamp and brand on a site that they don't even get 1% say in? |
| [04:00:30] | <gusaus> | dojo2.0 could be a useful product for a lot of firms |
| [04:00:39] | <add1sun> | well they will if it is just plain advertising |
| [04:00:48] | <add1sun> | and not "spondership" per se |
| [04:00:49] | <Senpai> | oh, yes t can, but see, dojo 2.0 needs a lot of lovin |
| [04:00:57] | <gusaus> | a learning portal/collaborative workpace |
| [04:01:08] | <gusaus> | dude - that's how we started the convo |
| [04:01:11] | <add1sun> | gusaus, we don't even have an acheievalbe plan right now |
| [04:01:12] | <brenda003> | add1sun, yeah, that's more what i was thinking of |
| [04:01:30] | <Senpai> | if dojo 2.0 could become a cross-platform screensharing app, AND a video training repository, THEN you'd see some companies forking out money |
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| [04:01:39] | <add1sun> | we need to have concrete things for someone to throw money at |
| [04:01:45] | <brenda003> | Senpai, now that'd be cool :) |
| [04:01:46] | <add1sun> | they won't do it just for shits and grins |
| [04:01:54] | <mikejoconnor> | here's a thought |
| [04:02:09] | <Senpai> | brenda003: The hardest part i, we have all the tech and devs to actually make that happen |
| [04:02:10] | <mikejoconnor> | everyone is looking for developers |
| [04:02:13] | <gusaus> | yes - so we'd have to spec. out the thing for real - requirements and all the crap that i still need to learn |
| [04:02:16] | <Senpai> | brenda003: But they're all working! |
| [04:02:17] | <mikejoconnor> | do a mentorship program |
| [04:02:21] | <Senpai> | :-( |
| [04:02:23] | <brenda003> | Senpai, damn them! |
| [04:02:25] | <mikejoconnor> | and have the company donate to dojo |
| [04:02:26] | <brenda003> | stop working! |
| [04:02:27] | <Senpai> | I KNOW! |
| [04:02:38] | <mikejoconnor> | in exchange for a dojo trainee |
| [04:02:48] | <add1sun> | mikejoconnor, you mean like an intern> |
| [04:02:49] | <add1sun> | ? |
| [04:02:53] | <mikejoconnor> | exactly |
| [04:02:56] | <NikLP> | I am looking for something like that |
| [04:02:59] | <NikLP> | bang on |
| [04:03:06] | * gusaus could work on these open projects pretty much full-time if it was financially feasable |
| [04:03:06] | <Senpai> | just think what would happen if add1sun, me, josh_k, and samtresler all started working on dojo 2 for a month straight |
| [04:03:13] | <brenda003> | that's a neat idea. i wonder if companies would be interested in it |
| [04:03:16] | <mikejoconnor> | 1. the company gets something for there 'donation', 2, there's nothing like real world experience |
| [04:03:18] | <Senpai> | and then dvessel could take two weeks off and go to tow, |
| [04:03:19] | <gusaus> | think i can say the same for NikLP and a few others |
| [04:03:24] | <Senpai> | *town |
| [04:03:42] | <Senpai> | amazon would toss code and stuff at the problems as well |
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| [04:03:47] | <add1sun> | mikejoconnor, please add that idea to the dojo list |
| [04:03:50] | <NikLP> | if someone was willing to train me for a bit (in return potentially for some cash, and I would work) then that would be amazing |
| [04:03:57] | <add1sun> | we need to document the ideas so we can hash them out |
| [04:03:58] | <NikLP> | then I would be in a better position to give back |
| [04:03:58] | <Senpai> | and chris charlton comes along to slickify the whole thing |
| [04:04:07] | <NikLP> | and the circle of life would be COMPLETE! |
| [04:04:24] | * brenda003 sings the circle of liiiife. |
| [04:04:30] | <Senpai> | heh heh hehee |
| [04:04:30] | <NikLP> | well, for me anyway, as I could fund my beer and curry habits :p |
| [04:04:32] | <gusaus> | charlton put me in touch with his boss |
| [04:04:36] | <Senpai> | mmm, curry |
| [04:04:42] | <flk> | NikLP: beer :P |
| [04:04:42] | <amazon> | Ok |
| [04:04:42] | <mikejoconnor> | mmm, beer |
| [04:04:44] | <gusaus> | they're VERY down with open projects |
| [04:04:49] | <amazon> | Here's a goal |
| [04:04:50] | <NikLP> | hey calm down now! ;) |
| [04:05:06] | <NikLP> | ARGH my eyes: http://www.ganges.co.uk/ |
| [04:05:10] | <amazon> | Let's come up with a Dojo format of 20 minute lessons for Drupal 6 core |
| [04:05:10] | <flk> | NikLP: i atalking about roobeer ofcourse :P |
| [04:05:16] | <NikLP> | heh :() |
| [04:05:19] | <NikLP> | oops :) |
| [04:05:24] | <mikejoconnor> | addy, just add it to the ideas node? |
| [04:05:24] | <Senpai> | Right now, as I sit here, the dojo dev site's SVN doesn't even work, so I can't begin fixing the little bugs, even though I have the time each evening |
| [04:05:30] | <amazon> | then use that format as a selling tool for further sponsorship |
| [04:05:36] | <add1sun> | mikejoconnor, yep |
| [04:05:37] | <Senpai> | i don't know how to admin an SVN service |
| [04:05:40] | <gusaus> | http://www.almerblank.com/ <-- has a budget |
| [04:05:49] | <Senpai> | So I test core patches instead |
| [04:05:59] | <NikLP> | gusaus: gimme :p |
| [04:06:01] | <add1sun> | Senpai, is unfuddle no worky? |
| [04:06:04] | <add1sun> | or the new svn? |
| [04:06:10] | <Senpai> | I'd be loving to fix those bugs |
| [04:06:12] | <gusaus> | they also have this facility - http://www.richmediainstitute.com/ |
| [04:06:13] | <Senpai> | the new SVN |
| [04:06:22] | <add1sun> | ahh, right |
| [04:06:28] | <Senpai> | add1sun: Josh was hooking us up with a direct pipeline |
| [04:06:42] | <Senpai> | add1sun: And right now, I think its all in limbo |
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| [04:07:15] | <add1sun> | heh, yeah it's that end of year, client freakout time of the year |
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